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Outside of Kilkenny no county has repeated since Cork of 04-05. I can't figure this out Tipp in 2010 were all young and hungry they didn't win again until 2016. Clare in 2013 all there players were in their early 20's, they had a new running system didn't win a championship match for a few years. Galway had size and skill in '17 looks like they are back this year. Limerick got caught out last year we will see. I won't say they are big favorites next week though. Hard to figure. gatha (Kilkenny) - Posts: 183 - 23/11/2020 16:43:17 2314127 Link 2 |
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Retaining the title is going to be even more difficult over the next few years, I suspect. It could be a long time before we see a team as good and consistent as Kilkenny and I think we now have more teams with genuine All-Ireland winning potential than we've had for a long time. midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 221 - 23/11/2020 20:46:18 2314285 Link 3 |
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Shows what a machine kilkenny were 2006-15 wexico15 (Wexford) - Posts: 2602 - 23/11/2020 22:53:34 2314392 Link 3 |
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We know how difficult it is to get past Kilkenny. The deeper into the championship the harder. You need to be several times better than them and make no mistakes. In fact I always feel that getting too far ahead of them is the worst. They don't allow anyone hammer them. It gets their dander up. So tight and pip is probably the best you can do and avoid a hammering yourself. (we've had a few) Anyway hoping for a good game. Probably being at this stage is a bonus for us already, but Cahill doesn't seem to have any time for moral victories. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 979 - 24/11/2020 00:17:26 2314424 Link 0 |
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While Limerick are probably the favorites of the remaining 4 teams any of them could do it. Should be great matches Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 1082 - 24/11/2020 00:55:03 2314428 Link 1 |
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Hurling has become a lot more competitive over the past 5 years, which is great for the game. There are many teams with genuine All-Ireland aspirations at the start of the year. On a given day most are capable of beating each other, which adds to the difficulty of going back-to-back. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 875 - 24/11/2020 10:13:02 2314498 Link 2 |
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Well in fairness, and I am no fan of Tipp, they did prove that KK can be heavily beaten in '10, '16 and '19.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 2427 - 24/11/2020 11:12:14 2314537 Link 1 |
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I think that Limerick would love to meet KK in the final. keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 3868 - 24/11/2020 11:44:52 2314565 Link 0 |
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I'd give Waterford a good chance of beating KK in a semi-final, if it were an All Ireland Final it would be advantage KK. KK have been beaten well by Galway in semi-finals but KK's record in finals is very impressive.
baire (Galway) - Posts: 843 - 24/11/2020 11:56:00 2314577 Link 1 |
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It's great for the game that Kilkenny are as dominant as they were because it has become boring. I hope football can get back to the days of new winners every year or second year. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 10339 - 24/11/2020 12:02:12 2314585 Link 1 |
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I don't think its a huge mystery, especially in recent years. There's seldom a puck of a ball between the top tier counties. This leveling off of standards has seen most of the sides quite capable of beating anyone else on any given day. Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 947 - 24/11/2020 12:07:33 2314592 Link 0 |
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I think you're right...
skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 710 - 24/11/2020 12:23:01 2314611 Link 1 |
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"Levelling off"? The standards are only getting higher!
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 3868 - 24/11/2020 12:59:26 2314624 Link 2 |
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yes, levelling off at the same high standard. You do know what levelling off means?
Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 947 - 24/11/2020 16:04:01 2314765 Link 0 |
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Tipp can't seem to beat KK by a small margin can they, it was always a hammering.
Buachaillbui (Clare) - Posts: 93 - 24/11/2020 16:36:46 2314786 Link 1 |
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Football will never be as entertaining as hurling unfortunately. Dublins dominance is here to stay! Past hurler (None) - Posts: 285 - 24/11/2020 17:04:31 2314806 Link 2 |
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There was a time when we had over 15 years without anyone going back-to-back in football, from Cork's 1990 winning team until Kerry in 2007. This was the longest stretch without a repeat winner in the history of the football championship. Innocent times! WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 875 - 24/11/2020 17:28:04 2314816 Link 1 |
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Well in fairness. You forget to mention 2003 and 2012 semi finals when KK hammered tipp by even bigger amount..
Newyorkkat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 5 - 24/11/2020 17:56:22 2314839 Link 0 |
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There's obviously something in the players minds that makes it so difficult to do back to back after making a breakthrough? There is no doubt that the kilkenny team from 2000-2015 was an amazing team. However, after KK made the breakthrough in 2000 they were beaten by Tipp in 2001. Cork in 04/05 was the exception. Unfortunately, for them they came up against that amazing KK team thereafter. After failing for a few years that Cork team dwindled quickly. Like Oldtourman, I'm no Tipp fan but I think the team of 2010 would have one a few more All Ireland's were it not for the same Kk outfit. Limerick were hot favourites to beat Kk last year but the two in a row "nerves" got to them before they could settle. I'm guessing a major reason is that every one is out to dethrone the champions and the new champions don't have the experience to deal with it? I'm hoping that the 2019 semi final along with the 11/11 games that Limerick won thus far in 2020 will stand for them and pull them through this semifinal. I think Waterford will just about get over the line in the other Semi but then again the brilliant BC will have a plan for them too! Either way great weekend in prospect! Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 266 - 24/11/2020 18:23:00 2314857 Link 0 |
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Wishing to meet KK in an All Ireland final, now, that's either bravado or talking seafóid, especially with Brian Cody in charge!
baire (Galway) - Posts: 843 - 24/11/2020 18:29:22 2314865 Link 1 |