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Should Cavan V Dublin Be In Navan?

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The most important consideration at this time of the year should be the condition of the pitch. Bearing that in mind, Croke Park is the obvious choice. By the way, why are there not similar calls to move the Tipp-Mayo game out of Croke Park too? Moving that game to Ennis, Ballinasloe or Tuam should be considered if the Dublin-Cavan game is moved to Navan. football first (None) - Posts: 1181 - 23/11/2020 11:46:57 2313825 Link
Replying To fainleog: "The All -Ireland football semi-Final should be played in the best grounds, having the best surface and best drainage, all the more as it will be played during the winter season. That pitch is Croke Park. The size of the pitch is also conducive to playing good open football." Maybe about an all ireland semi final but far more games in earlier rounds involving dublin have to be played outside of croke park. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 1636 - 23/11/2020 11:48:15 2313827 Link
Replying To football first: "The most important consideration at this time of the year should be the condition of the pitch. Bearing that in mind, Croke Park is the obvious choice. By the way, why are there not similar calls to move the Tipp-Mayo game out of Croke Park too? Moving that game to Ennis, Ballinasloe or Tuam should be considered if the Dublin-Cavan game is moved to Navan." Because holding Mayo v Tipp in Croke Park doesn't hand an unfair, unjustified advantage to one of the 2 teams playing. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4135 - 23/11/2020 11:50:56 2313830 Link
Replying To daytona11: "Hi Tom. Normally I would agree but what would be the benefit of moving it to Navan? Every Leinster team has to go into Corker for their hiding so off with yis and enjoy the day. Be thankful it's not a yearly thing though." Hahaha Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 926 - 23/11/2020 11:51:31 2313831 Link
Replying To football first: "The most important consideration at this time of the year should be the condition of the pitch. Bearing that in mind, Croke Park is the obvious choice. By the way, why are there not similar calls to move the Tipp-Mayo game out of Croke Park too? Moving that game to Ennis, Ballinasloe or Tuam should be considered if the Dublin-Cavan game is moved to Navan." Presumably the main reason would be that Dublin play regularly in Croke Park and in fairness Tipperary and Mayo don't have the same opportunity so before the All Ireland they should be given the chance to play there. jimski (Kildare) - Posts: 347 - 23/11/2020 11:57:24 2313837 Link
Not a hope it will happen. But it definitely should. republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 120 - 23/11/2020 12:04:09 2313844 Link
The pitch in Armagh yesterday looked in good shape after being re-sodded. Why not play the game there? There really isn't any valid reason to play the game in Croke Park and you won't hear any complaining from the Dublin players if they have to go to another venue, they will just get on with the game. Anybody who thinks the Cavan players want to play Dublin in Croke Park are surely deluded lol. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1730 - 23/11/2020 12:18:40 2313857 Link
Lets face it, the only reason people want this game to be moved out of Croke Park is because they think Cavan will have a better chance of beating them somewhere else. Everyone wants to see Dublin lose. If i was a Cavan player, id be fuming if this game was moved to Navan or somewhere. Its the flagship stadium in Ireland, how often realistically are lads outside of Dublin going to get the chance to play there. Cavan have about the same chance of beating Dublin in Croke Park as they have on the moon. Zero. TakeyourPoint. (Tyrone) - Posts: 132 - 23/11/2020 12:26:01 2313863 Link
Should be played in Armagh,Clones or Navan simple as. Croke park worth 4 points to a team. ifindoubt (Donegal) - Posts: 114 - 23/11/2020 12:34:12 2313869 Link
We would be happy to play it in breffni Park! Surely we have as much right to play at home as the dubs? On a different note in 2021 will either of the Div 3 teams in the semifinal this year be allowed to compete for Sam next year? bunnoe1 (Cavan) - Posts: 56 - 23/11/2020 12:43:20 2313883 Link
Going slightly off topic here. Croke Park is an amazing stadium when near full. Being honest for games with small crowds and double/ triple headers I have never liked the atmosphere. I much prefer games in Tullamore/ Portlaois with near full crowds than a half empty Croke Park. In hindsight was it a mistake when rebuilding to make Croke Park so big?. Would it have been better had they made it a little smaller? (Say 55/60 k), reducing costs a lot and spent the remaining money on providing better quality provincial grounds?. One of the main reasons that nearly all games are staged in Croke Park I think is I think the GAA (and Croke Park stadium director in particular) feel they have to play many games there to justify having such a big stadium. Eventually I see the championship will probably end up with a pool stage and a knockout stage so issues like home and away venues will become a much bigger talking point. bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 768 - 23/11/2020 12:45:04 2313884 Link
The issue is the lack of floodlighting in counties. Navan, Mullingar, Clones would have been options, but don't have lights. Unlikely they would play it in Armagh after Cavan playing last 2 games there. Tullamore or Newry probaly the other alternatives, if they don't go with Croke Park FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2216 - 23/11/2020 12:53:19 2313895 Link
No Navan won't get it 1. no floodlights 2. changing rooms are tiny - covid 3. stand is antiquated- even with only 250 in it ( sponsors/ backroom teams/ and officials ) - it cant cater 4. no press/ tv coverage areas 5. It is a very poor ground If they had invested in it, I would say yes Newry is the next best option So that isn't going to happen cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1589 - 23/11/2020 13:02:46 2313903 Link
Replying To FoolsGold: "The issue is the lack of floodlighting in counties. Navan, Mullingar, Clones would have been options, but don't have lights. Unlikely they would play it in Armagh after Cavan playing last 2 games there. Tullamore or Newry probaly the other alternatives, if they don't go with Croke Park" Armagh surface looked very good last night. No reason not to have it there. Newry would be a good call likewise. Sure didn't the Dubs play x2 this year in Croke park? Cavan played x2 in Armagh, This isn't an issue. It isn't even their home pitch. It would certainly make it more interesting. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3770 - 23/11/2020 13:08:49 2313910 Link
So people want to deny this Cavan team their opportunity to play in Croker? Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 979 - 23/11/2020 13:13:29 2313917 Link
Replying To Daith: "I am a fan of getting the Dubs out and about, as are most Dubs I know, but this is an All Ireland semi. Has anybody asked the Cavan players? If it was me and I knew I was in for a 25 point beating, I would much rather receive it after seeing the inside of Croke Park and trot across that gorgeous turf at least once. Plus the Pairc Tailteann pitch is a bog at the best of times and its all fun and games until somebody snaps an ankle in 3 inches of mud." You are wrong there, the actual playing surface in Navan is excellent, very good drainage system and will stand up to conditions experienced at this time of the year. The surrounding infrastructure I will concede is completely outdated. If Dublin are such outstanding favourites why don't they offer to play in Breffni Park. MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 742 - 23/11/2020 13:15:23 2313919 Link
Replying To Bon: "So people want to deny this Cavan team their opportunity to play in Croker?" Probably the same people who moan and whinge at any suggestion of not having the Christy Ring cup or club final there Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1106 - 23/11/2020 13:22:43 2313929 Link
I think it's fair to expect all Ireland semi finals to be played at HQ. The issue here is that Dublin have an advantage due to how frequently they play in Croke Park. The solution to that isn't to move the all Ireland semi final out of Dublin, but to move Leinster Q-Finals Leinster Semi-Finals, league games, All Ireland Q-Finals, etc. out of Croker so that Dublin aren't guaranteed 10 odd games a year in Croke Park to perfect playing there. Other than that, Dublin are just a better side than Cavan, and unfortunately would probably give them as much of a hiding in Navan. DL_Man (Donegal) - Posts: 89 - 23/11/2020 13:32:19 2313939 Link
Replying To DL_Man: "I think it's fair to expect all Ireland semi finals to be played at HQ. The issue here is that Dublin have an advantage due to how frequently they play in Croke Park. The solution to that isn't to move the all Ireland semi final out of Dublin, but to move Leinster Q-Finals Leinster Semi-Finals, league games, All Ireland Q-Finals, etc. out of Croker so that Dublin aren't guaranteed 10 odd games a year in Croke Park to perfect playing there. Other than that, Dublin are just a better side than Cavan, and unfortunately would probably give them as much of a hiding in Navan." Thomas Galligan will say NO, again what a man? Must have a head like an anvil. MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 742 - 23/11/2020 13:41:01 2313947 Link
Replying To Donegalman: "Armagh surface looked very good last night. No reason not to have it there. Newry would be a good call likewise. Sure didn't the Dubs play x2 this year in Croke park? Cavan played x2 in Armagh, This isn't an issue. It isn't even their home pitch. It would certainly make it more interesting." I think more likely they would play it in Croker then Armagh. A Smaller County like Cavan wouldn't get that advantage. A I wouldn't mind seeing Cavan playing Dunlin in Croke Park. Just to test themselves, obviously a big challenge. FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2216 - 23/11/2020 14:17:04 2314003 Link