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Time To Accept Offaly Are Now A "Weaker" County

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Replying To keeper7:  "There are 14 hurling clubs in Westmeath in total."
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Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 883 - 16/11/2020 20:51:50    2310389

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "and go and start your own posts please about how Galway will do and how KK will do, this post is about Offaly...thanks."
Sorry just another Wexford poster was using this thread for their tired and boring agenda to dimiss us spanning alot longer than our 2 recent performances.

On offaly I feel years of been much maligned and facing alot of internal criticism and scrutiny weighs heavy on your players, when the players sense a potential disaster on the horizon they almost freeze, happened in the league against Antrim throwing away defeat from a comfortable position, on Saturday when ye couldn't push ahead the alarm bells were ringing in the players mind sensing another potential calamity and the weight on there shoulders told, no way Offaly should be in a scenario like that against Down even with the current crop, correct me if I'm wrong but looking from the outside seems to be alot of hurling people criticising from the sidelines rather than putting their shoulder to the wheel like Duignan, time for ye to row in together rather than lads complaining from the sideline.

wexico15 (Wexford) - Posts: 2602 - 16/11/2020 21:30:46    2310416

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Replying To wexico15:  "Sorry just another Wexford poster was using this thread for their tired and boring agenda to dimiss us spanning alot longer than our 2 recent performances.

On offaly I feel years of been much maligned and facing alot of internal criticism and scrutiny weighs heavy on your players, when the players sense a potential disaster on the horizon they almost freeze, happened in the league against Antrim throwing away defeat from a comfortable position, on Saturday when ye couldn't push ahead the alarm bells were ringing in the players mind sensing another potential calamity and the weight on there shoulders told, no way Offaly should be in a scenario like that against Down even with the current crop, correct me if I'm wrong but looking from the outside seems to be alot of hurling people criticising from the sidelines rather than putting their shoulder to the wheel like Duignan, time for ye to row in together rather than lads complaining from the sideline."
If you go to a club AGM in Offaly anyway (and I have been informed of this by at least 2 people) the agenda is almost "pre-set", and if you go against that, you are in big bother, meetings have been adjourned even rather than reach a conclusion on the night, as the powers that be wont risk "loosing" the status quo etc..I love hurling and football and camogie, I love the sport and live for the games, but the politics of it can be rotten, and puts alot of peopl off...all very well saying get involved and put your shoulder to the wheel, but often the wagon are circled and "whos in is in" and lets keep it that way...I doubt if there is no county in Ireland that doesnt have a similar scenario in some of its clubs...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 387 - 16/11/2020 23:43:00    2310460

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yeah,the only way for offaly to go now is back to brass tacks.i am always saying the same about our own football setup.time to forget about expensive management tickets,and pump every cent in to underage coaching,make sure it is as good as what is being delivered elsewhere.
hard to see a way back for offaly but its up to hurling people in the county to stop tweeting,blaming,etc and give a bit back.the "i did it as a player so dont need to do any more" thing is bull for me.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3841 - 17/11/2020 15:25:05    2310670

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Replying To wexico15:  "Sorry just another Wexford poster was using this thread for their tired and boring agenda to dimiss us spanning alot longer than our 2 recent performances.

On offaly I feel years of been much maligned and facing alot of internal criticism and scrutiny weighs heavy on your players, when the players sense a potential disaster on the horizon they almost freeze, happened in the league against Antrim throwing away defeat from a comfortable position, on Saturday when ye couldn't push ahead the alarm bells were ringing in the players mind sensing another potential calamity and the weight on there shoulders told, no way Offaly should be in a scenario like that against Down even with the current crop, correct me if I'm wrong but looking from the outside seems to be alot of hurling people criticising from the sidelines rather than putting their shoulder to the wheel like Duignan, time for ye to row in together rather than lads complaining from the sideline."
True Wexico. We have a committed Chairman in Ml. Duignan, and there are a lot of good people in this county. Collectively we need to support the executive, and team management, while offering constructive criticism where justified. Saturday is over, and no point going back to the glory days, they were good times, but the past is a foreign country. Time to plan for a brighter future.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 112 - 17/11/2020 17:34:24    2310740

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Replying To M Lyster:  "Offaly hurling fans need to realise that the 80s/90s glory days were a 'blip' and their level now is more in common with where they were for most of their history. They aren't getting back to the top anytime soon"
Like many areas in Ireland lack of employment etc is the issue.

In the 40s when ESB and the likes set up in Offaly it gave employment to fellas who otherwise would have left. Take a look at the amount of lads from both football and hurling panels from the 70s and 80s who were working there.

Nowadays there's very little to keep fellas in their 20s around anyway. With working from home etc now becoming more normal this might change but could still be a long time coming.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 402 - 18/11/2020 08:10:38    2310919

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The reality is that Offaly's golden generation were the aberration, not the current situation.
15 years of light, the rest of hurling history in darkness

MadgeKing (Cavan) - Posts: 489 - 18/11/2020 22:49:29    2311272

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Replying To oneoff:  "Like many areas in Ireland lack of employment etc is the issue.

In the 40s when ESB and the likes set up in Offaly it gave employment to fellas who otherwise would have left. Take a look at the amount of lads from both football and hurling panels from the 70s and 80s who were working there.

Nowadays there's very little to keep fellas in their 20s around anyway. With working from home etc now becoming more normal this might change but could still be a long time coming."
Interesting you mention the ESB, and your right, lads got in there and people dont know how they got in, Banagher Concrete in the news trying to get a Union up an running to sort workers pay and conditions etc, another place if you were GAA player, you would be swept in....change of the times now with people out representing the company and all strangers by and far and wide by the looks of it (well not local anyway)...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 387 - 19/11/2020 11:45:17    2311355

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Replying To MadgeKing:  "The reality is that Offaly's golden generation were the aberration, not the current situation.
15 years of light, the rest of hurling history in darkness"
We can all strive to improve Madge. Cavan have to go back to 1952, for their last All Ireland football title.
Best of luck on Sunday, hope we see the blue jersey competing for national honours again.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 112 - 19/11/2020 16:59:22    2311489

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I don't mean to be cruel as we are not in a good place at the moment, but talk that "Offaly were in the Leinster championship" 3 years ago is sort of false. In theory they were, but they were so bad I would say the county champions in many counties would have beaten them out the gate.
I remember going to Offaly for that Wexford match and my father being sad at where Offaly were. He said the last time he was in Tullamore they had beaten us in the championship.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 864 - 19/11/2020 19:06:38    2311518

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Offaly's success at the highest level in both codes was no fluke, ask any county that tried to stop them. Currently they are victims of circumstances like a few other counties out of their own control; the current situation at higher levels doesn't help either. Aberration in Offaly's case, n/a. If Offaly are considered a week county, it's only by their own standards.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2161 - 19/11/2020 19:43:53    2311529

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