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Hurl Or Hurley? 22 Of 32 Counties Say Hurl

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From today's Irish Times:

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Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 1115 - 12/11/2020 19:22:57    2308125

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Saw this on facebook. The number of people who commented along the lines of "hurl is a verb. You can't hurl with a hurl so obviously hurley is the name for the stick" is ridiculous. Following that logic you'd hammer with a hammery, rake with a rakey, brush with a brushy, shovel with a shovely, dream a dreamy, shield with a shieldy, fool a fooly etc.

In fact, I can't think of any examples in english where the noun is just a verb with -(e)y at the end. "Pulley" maybe but you don't really pull with a pulley....

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1391 - 12/11/2020 19:55:55    2308143

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "Saw this on facebook. The number of people who commented along the lines of "hurl is a verb. You can't hurl with a hurl so obviously hurley is the name for the stick" is ridiculous. Following that logic you'd hammer with a hammery, rake with a rakey, brush with a brushy, shovel with a shovely, dream a dreamy, shield with a shieldy, fool a fooly etc.

In fact, I can't think of any examples in english where the noun is just a verb with -(e)y at the end. "Pulley" maybe but you don't really pull with a pulley...."
This is from GAA's Rules & Regulations.

Rules of Fair Play
RULE 1 - THE PLAY

1.2 The ball may be struck with the hurley when it
is on the ground, in the air, released from the
hand or lifted with the hurley.
1.3 A player may run with the ball balanced on or
hopping on his hurley.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 1115 - 12/11/2020 20:46:44    2308163

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "This is from GAA's Rules & Regulations.

Rules of Fair Play
RULE 1 - THE PLAY

1.2 The ball may be struck with the hurley when it
is on the ground, in the air, released from the
hand or lifted with the hurley.
1.3 A player may run with the ball balanced on or
hopping on his hurley."
I'm not sure what your point is? I never said the term "hurley" is wrong, just that the "logical" basis some people use is a pile of BS.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1391 - 12/11/2020 21:41:38    2308181

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All the important hurling counties say hurley

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1106 - 12/11/2020 23:29:27    2308218

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Hurley for me.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 630 - 13/11/2020 00:10:28    2308227

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Over 90% in Tipp call it a hurley? I think they definitely got this back to front because I don't know any Tipp man who calls its a hurley. It's a hurl, plain and simple!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2911 - 13/11/2020 00:20:15    2308231

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Over 90% in Tipp call it a hurley? I think they definitely got this back to front because I don't know any Tipp man who calls its a hurley. It's a hurl, plain and simple!"
True bud, if you hurl well you should win. If you hurley well then you can sing.

heartbroken (Galway) - Posts: 356 - 13/11/2020 09:46:05    2308254

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its funny so why they are all called hurley makers and not hurl makers. Never really heard of a hurl maker

The_Bull (Cork) - Posts: 243 - 13/11/2020 10:21:45    2308266

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Replying To The_Bull:  "its funny so why they are all called hurley makers and not hurl makers. Never really heard of a hurl maker"
I know of plenty of hurl makers. A 20 second google search and you'd find plenty calling themselves hurl makers.

Both hurl and hurley are used in different parts of the country and both are correct. I've always said hurl.

The one thing I've noticed over the years is that the people who get all hot and bothered about one being correct and the other being wrong tend to be ones who say hurley for some reason.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13145 - 13/11/2020 10:35:34    2308273

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "Saw this on facebook. The number of people who commented along the lines of "hurl is a verb. You can't hurl with a hurl so obviously hurley is the name for the stick" is ridiculous. Following that logic you'd hammer with a hammery, rake with a rakey, brush with a brushy, shovel with a shovely, dream a dreamy, shield with a shieldy, fool a fooly etc.

In fact, I can't think of any examples in english where the noun is just a verb with -(e)y at the end. "Pulley" maybe but you don't really pull with a pulley...."
Yeah my Cork in-laws always bring that one up with my kids. It's so ingrained in them they always forget that my kids have brought that exact point back at them everytime!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13145 - 13/11/2020 10:37:01    2308275

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Over 90% in Tipp call it a hurley? I think they definitely got this back to front because I don't know any Tipp man who calls its a hurley. It's a hurl, plain and simple!"
All the Tipp lads I know say hurley.

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1106 - 13/11/2020 10:56:17    2308282

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A hurl is used when out playing with your mates. A Hurley is used when playing with yourself.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4029 - 13/11/2020 10:58:09    2308285

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Replying To Breezy:  "All the important hurling counties say hurley"
No bites yet Breezy? I'm sure one or two will be along soon enough.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 1115 - 13/11/2020 11:30:13    2308292

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'Hurley' makes it sound like a childs game. The Cork accent is camp enough as it is, without saying 'gimme a hurley'

PressureKick (UK) - Posts: 116 - 13/11/2020 11:42:29    2308294

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An electoral college voting system would have seen hurl seize the day, god dammit.

wexico15 (Wexford) - Posts: 2602 - 13/11/2020 11:48:56    2308297

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "No bites yet Breezy? I'm sure one or two will be along soon enough."
Well I did say that those that hurl "hurl" and those that Hurley " sing " that a boy Jimmy Buckley one of the best to come out of Limerick and a beautiful if not slightly crooked version of Limerick your my lady right after winning the 2018 all Ireland

heartbroken (Galway) - Posts: 356 - 13/11/2020 12:00:36    2308303

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Hurley is very much a munster thing by my understanding

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 1714 - 13/11/2020 12:35:49    2308313

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "No bites yet Breezy? I'm sure one or two will be along soon enough."
Caught a fish outta the Thames by the look of it

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1106 - 13/11/2020 12:38:33    2308314

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I should also add that in wexford it is referred to as a hurl, a stick, or a wand.

Calling to Philip Doyle or Albert Randall was like Harry Potter going to Olivanders

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 1714 - 13/11/2020 12:38:41    2308315

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