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clare and tipp for me.i think we were so poor v galway,i dont see us improving enough.i think the loss v tipp last year haunts this team
tipp have more in the tank than cork for me and will win by a point or 2.
re eddie brennan,the truth hurts with some people and sometimes people need to call out stuff.
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Replying To heartbroken: "Wexford to win by more than 5 points and sorry bar the All Ireland final last year tipperary have not looked like a team to fear. I think Cork will win this one but it will be close. Galway always frighten me as you never know what team will turn up but when were good were very good, kilkenny are not the force of old and Cody is a bit like Mickey Heart no one has the heart to tell them to step aside. I expect Galway to beat Kilkenny easy once we turn up. Limerick will be two Good for Waterford." Are you overlooking the fact that Tipp won seven of their eight championship games last year? They were excellent in Munster apart from the final and, while they struggled for long periods against Wexford, their final quarter with 14 men was very impressive. Most commentators (unfairly) say Wexford blew that game but Tipp deserve a lot of credit. I'm not sure if they can repeat last year's heroics but if they get over Cork nobody will write them off. Waterford are a coming team but may not be quite ready to beat Limerick just yet. I'd expect Galway to beat Kilkenny but, like Tipperary, i'd never take anything for granted against the cats. The Wexford-Clare game is intriguing. Wexford will surely improve from their Galway defeat and might just have the edge.
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Replying To midlands: "Are you overlooking the fact that Tipp won seven of their eight championship games last year? They were excellent in Munster apart from the final and, while they struggled for long periods against Wexford, their final quarter with 14 men was very impressive. Most commentators (unfairly) say Wexford blew that game but Tipp deserve a lot of credit. I'm not sure if they can repeat last year's heroics but if they get over Cork nobody will write them off. Waterford are a coming team but may not be quite ready to beat Limerick just yet. I'd expect Galway to beat Kilkenny but, like Tipperary, i'd never take anything for granted against the cats. The Wexford-Clare game is intriguing. Wexford will surely improve from their Galway defeat and might just have the edge." Maybe,
Tipperary are always dangerous and as said many times by many posters on a given day every team can be beaten. Kilkenny with DJ and then King Henry were a exceptional team that had coped on to having physical strength so they spent a lot of time on weights. All other counties have now brought physical strength to a new level Limerick and Galway are the perfect example. Cork were quite last year and would be very disappointed with that. They have class hurlers and I expect this match to be a classic , such a pity it's not on free to air. Tipperary like Galway have being there abouts but its very hard to defend your All Ireland title. That's why I am tipping Cork and they will have a hugh bounce with the footballer's winning last week.
heartbroken (Galway) - Posts: 356 - 11/11/2020 11:55:35
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Replying To heartbroken: "Of course I agree over the last number of years Galway have been generally consistent however we went missing in 2018 All Ireland and were responsible for our own downfall in 2019. I use the name Heartbroken because of the amount of Games All Ireland finals and Semi finals that Galway left behind them. On our day we are the best team in Ireland, while Limerick are the new kings on the block, they can be bet. Cork had them in 2018, and despite only playing for 10 minutes Galway almost stole the All Ireland of them. And a Average kilkenny team stopped them last year. Make no mistake about it if Galway turn up we be 2020 All Ireland champions." You're a bit obsessed with Limerick Pal..
what we have to do with Galways place in the scheme of things is beyond me but anyway..
Here's a different take on things.
Our very young team, featuring about 7 of the previous years u 21 all ireland winners went to salthill for the 1B league decider in 2018 to take on the reigning all Ireland champions in their backyard.
8/9 points down at half time we played brilliantly in the second half to win a great victory.
Beat Kilkenny for the first time in decades by scoring 27 points, 24 from play in the AI Q/fs.
Yes we were losing to Munster champions Cork in the semi final by 6 points with 8 minutes to go.
That scoreline flattered Cork at that stage of the game. It was a very close, tight match and a lot of people forget about Aaron Gillane missing 3 clear goal chances during that game.
When we kicked off in the last few minutes to score 7 unanswered points Cork couldn't live with us..in normal injury time Harnedy could have got a goal, but he didn't.. Quaids brilliant save and all that.
We killed them in extra time.
Regarding the 2018 all Ireland final.
We were winning by 8 points on the 70th minute.
Still beyond me how Peter Casey didn't get a free when he was pushed to the ground bearing down on your goal in the 71st minute. Terrible reffing decision.
Instead of going 9 up, ye get a goal. 4 point turnaround..
Skehills injury added 8 minutes injury time plus the ref adding 2 more. That gave an experienced battle hardened Galway 10 minutes to play catch up.
Couldn't because we had built up too much of a lead.
Yes, we were poor against Kilkenny in last years semi final. We were also poor against Cork and Tipp in Munster. There was always going to be a bit of a hangover after winning the all Ireland.
Still only lost by a point, playing badly.
Yes, we can be beaten, no team is invincible but we've answered every question that's been asked of us so far in 2020...
Like I said, a different take on things.
I've no idea who's going to win this years all Ireland, but we won't be far away.
(Crazy Kathy aside,) most hurling people recognise that Limerick are a serious team.
If its to be Galway, Tipp, Cork etc, fair enough cos they'll deserve it.
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Replying To heartbroken: "Maybe,
Tipperary are always dangerous and as said many times by many posters on a given day every team can be beaten. Kilkenny with DJ and then King Henry were a exceptional team that had coped on to having physical strength so they spent a lot of time on weights. All other counties have now brought physical strength to a new level Limerick and Galway are the perfect example. Cork were quite last year and would be very disappointed with that. They have class hurlers and I expect this match to be a classic , such a pity it's not on free to air. Tipperary like Galway have being there abouts but its very hard to defend your All Ireland title. That's why I am tipping Cork and they will have a hugh bounce with the footballer's winning last week." Cork V Tipp is on SKY Sports Mix which is a freeview channel for SKY customers. Virgin customers also get this channel free. Someone said EIR customers can get a code to watch it for free too???
The only way to watch Clare V Wexford is through GAAGO :(
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 3868 - 11/11/2020 12:26:46
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Replying To skillet: "You're a bit obsessed with Limerick Pal..
what we have to do with Galways place in the scheme of things is beyond me but anyway..
Here's a different take on things.
Our very young team, featuring about 7 of the previous years u 21 all ireland winners went to salthill for the 1B league decider in 2018 to take on the reigning all Ireland champions in their backyard.
8/9 points down at half time we played brilliantly in the second half to win a great victory.
Beat Kilkenny for the first time in decades by scoring 27 points, 24 from play in the AI Q/fs.
Yes we were losing to Munster champions Cork in the semi final by 6 points with 8 minutes to go.
That scoreline flattered Cork at that stage of the game. It was a very close, tight match and a lot of people forget about Aaron Gillane missing 3 clear goal chances during that game.
When we kicked off in the last few minutes to score 7 unanswered points Cork couldn't live with us..in normal injury time Harnedy could have got a goal, but he didn't.. Quaids brilliant save and all that.
We killed them in extra time.
Regarding the 2018 all Ireland final.
We were winning by 8 points on the 70th minute.
Still beyond me how Peter Casey didn't get a free when he was pushed to the ground bearing down on your goal in the 71st minute. Terrible reffing decision.
Instead of going 9 up, ye get a goal. 4 point turnaround..
Skehills injury added 8 minutes injury time plus the ref adding 2 more. That gave an experienced battle hardened Galway 10 minutes to play catch up.
Couldn't because we had built up too much of a lead.
Yes, we were poor against Kilkenny in last years semi final. We were also poor against Cork and Tipp in Munster. There was always going to be a bit of a hangover after winning the all Ireland.
Still only lost by a point, playing badly.
Yes, we can be beaten, no team is invincible but we've answered every question that's been asked of us so far in 2020...
Like I said, a different take on things.
I've no idea who's going to win this years all Ireland, but we won't be far away.
(Crazy Kathy aside,) most hurling people recognise that Limerick are a serious team.
If its to be Galway, Tipp, Cork etc, fair enough cos they'll deserve it." If ye win on Sunday ye will have back-to-back Munster & League titles. Not to be sniffed at!
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 3868 - 11/11/2020 12:30:20
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Replying To bloodyban: "They didn't get out of the round Robin last year. A weak enough round Robin with Dublin and Wexford getting out ahead if them" Over the last 5 years they are still comfortably the best team in Ireland if you aggregate their championship results- points scored and points conceded.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 1024 - 11/11/2020 12:44:51
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Replying To skillet: "You're a bit obsessed with Limerick Pal..
what we have to do with Galways place in the scheme of things is beyond me but anyway..
Here's a different take on things.
Our very young team, featuring about 7 of the previous years u 21 all ireland winners went to salthill for the 1B league decider in 2018 to take on the reigning all Ireland champions in their backyard.
8/9 points down at half time we played brilliantly in the second half to win a great victory.
Beat Kilkenny for the first time in decades by scoring 27 points, 24 from play in the AI Q/fs.
Yes we were losing to Munster champions Cork in the semi final by 6 points with 8 minutes to go.
That scoreline flattered Cork at that stage of the game. It was a very close, tight match and a lot of people forget about Aaron Gillane missing 3 clear goal chances during that game.
When we kicked off in the last few minutes to score 7 unanswered points Cork couldn't live with us..in normal injury time Harnedy could have got a goal, but he didn't.. Quaids brilliant save and all that.
We killed them in extra time.
Regarding the 2018 all Ireland final.
We were winning by 8 points on the 70th minute.
Still beyond me how Peter Casey didn't get a free when he was pushed to the ground bearing down on your goal in the 71st minute. Terrible reffing decision.
Instead of going 9 up, ye get a goal. 4 point turnaround..
Skehills injury added 8 minutes injury time plus the ref adding 2 more. That gave an experienced battle hardened Galway 10 minutes to play catch up.
Couldn't because we had built up too much of a lead.
Yes, we were poor against Kilkenny in last years semi final. We were also poor against Cork and Tipp in Munster. There was always going to be a bit of a hangover after winning the all Ireland.
Still only lost by a point, playing badly.
Yes, we can be beaten, no team is invincible but we've answered every question that's been asked of us so far in 2020...
Like I said, a different take on things.
I've no idea who's going to win this years all Ireland, but we won't be far away.
(Crazy Kathy aside,) most hurling people recognise that Limerick are a serious team.
If its to be Galway, Tipp, Cork etc, fair enough cos they'll deserve it." Buddy your spot on , I think Limerick are a fantastic team and the team to beat, in 2017 we hammered Tipperary in league final and only a wonder point by JC beat them in S/F . That is the point I am trying to get across, while some posters might think that limerick are unbeatable nothing could be further from the truth. The if my aunt had balls she be my uncle excuse after a match dose not wash with me. Sometimes a ref makes a mistake if say a goal is awarded or disallowed in a Game that decision influences the future pattern of the game. And as said ye beat us in the league in 2018 then a injury ridden tired Galway team were been bet out of sight in Croke park then the nerves hit Limerick and ye missed points . I hope were both lucky enough to make this year's all Ireland final
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Replying To keeper7: "If ye win on Sunday ye will have back-to-back Munster & League titles. Not to be sniffed at!" Absolutely, not to sniffed at.
1980/81 the last time we were lucky enough to win back to back Munster titles.
These are good days for Limerick hurling despite the crazy times we're in. Going to enjoy them because nothing lasts forever.
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Do you think we should bother turning up ? After all it is a foregone conclusion. Just joking everyone just expressing an opinion.
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I think Kerry will be favourite to win next years's Leinster championship. If they win the McDonagh that is where they will be playing. They can not playing in their own provincial championship. Have you ever heard such nonsense ? Antrim from Ulster would also play there and Galway from Connaught do play there. I think if Cork loose on Sunday they should play in Connaught or Ulster next year. Time to move on from the provincial structure and if provinces want to run their own competition separately go for it. It truly is becoming a joke.
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Replying To Canuck: "Do you think we should bother turning up ? After all it is a foregone conclusion. Just joking everyone just expressing an opinion." I think you're going to give us a fierce game.
I think we'll win because we're further down the road and basically I think we're a bit better at the moment but won't be surprised if Waterford do a job on us.
Was at Waterford v limerick last year and I remember well how Waterford just deflated after we got our first goal.
All the life drained out of the team. That won't happen this year, Cahill has ye playing a smart style of hurling, suited to your strengths. More importantly he seems to have confidence back into the team.
skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 710 - 11/11/2020 14:28:39
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Replying To Canuck: "I think Kerry will be favourite to win next years's Leinster championship. If they win the McDonagh that is where they will be playing. They can not playing in their own provincial championship. Have you ever heard such nonsense ? Antrim from Ulster would also play there and Galway from Connaught do play there. I think if Cork loose on Sunday they should play in Connaught or Ulster next year. Time to move on from the provincial structure and if provinces want to run their own competition separately go for it. It truly is becoming a joke." Provincial championship is only a joke , there was a time Galway were in every All Ireland S/F and many finals unfortunately nearly always ring rusty. A good open draw champions league style is the way forward.
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Replying To keeper7: "If ye win on Sunday ye will have back-to-back Munster & League titles. Not to be sniffed at!" Glad to see someone recognises how important these trophies are given that winning them doesn't come round that often for most of us
Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1106 - 11/11/2020 15:00:26
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Replying To skillet: "You're a bit obsessed with Limerick Pal..
what we have to do with Galways place in the scheme of things is beyond me but anyway..
Here's a different take on things.
Our very young team, featuring about 7 of the previous years u 21 all ireland winners went to salthill for the 1B league decider in 2018 to take on the reigning all Ireland champions in their backyard.
8/9 points down at half time we played brilliantly in the second half to win a great victory.
Beat Kilkenny for the first time in decades by scoring 27 points, 24 from play in the AI Q/fs.
Yes we were losing to Munster champions Cork in the semi final by 6 points with 8 minutes to go.
That scoreline flattered Cork at that stage of the game. It was a very close, tight match and a lot of people forget about Aaron Gillane missing 3 clear goal chances during that game.
When we kicked off in the last few minutes to score 7 unanswered points Cork couldn't live with us..in normal injury time Harnedy could have got a goal, but he didn't.. Quaids brilliant save and all that.
We killed them in extra time.
Regarding the 2018 all Ireland final.
We were winning by 8 points on the 70th minute.
Still beyond me how Peter Casey didn't get a free when he was pushed to the ground bearing down on your goal in the 71st minute. Terrible reffing decision.
Instead of going 9 up, ye get a goal. 4 point turnaround..
Skehills injury added 8 minutes injury time plus the ref adding 2 more. That gave an experienced battle hardened Galway 10 minutes to play catch up.
Couldn't because we had built up too much of a lead.
Yes, we were poor against Kilkenny in last years semi final. We were also poor against Cork and Tipp in Munster. There was always going to be a bit of a hangover after winning the all Ireland.
Still only lost by a point, playing badly.
Yes, we can be beaten, no team is invincible but we've answered every question that's been asked of us so far in 2020...
Like I said, a different take on things.
I've no idea who's going to win this years all Ireland, but we won't be far away.
(Crazy Kathy aside,) most hurling people recognise that Limerick are a serious team.
If its to be Galway, Tipp, Cork etc, fair enough cos they'll deserve it." Damn right you tell em kid
Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1106 - 11/11/2020 15:02:49
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Replying To heartbroken: "Provincial championship is only a joke , there was a time Galway were in every All Ireland S/F and many finals unfortunately nearly always ring rusty. A good open draw champions league style is the way forward." Yes. In fairness we were the last placed team in Munster for two years. Why should we be treated better than Kerry. An open draw with the McDonagh winners being one of the quarter finalists. That will bring up the standard and give them something extra to play for. A different team may get its chance to play at higher level each year while avoiding getting consistent drubbings. The glass ceiling may get broken in a few years.
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Replying To Canuck: "Yes. In fairness we were the last placed team in Munster for two years. Why should we be treated better than Kerry. An open draw with the McDonagh winners being one of the quarter finalists. That will bring up the standard and give them something extra to play for. A different team may get its chance to play at higher level each year while avoiding getting consistent drubbings. The glass ceiling may get broken in a few years." As a Kerryman I have to say Kerry are treated very unfairly in the hurling. Twice a few years back when they won div 2 they had to play the bottom team of div 1 in order to get promoted. Pure unadulterated drivel. Now if any team wins Joe McDonagh Cup they are promoted to senior championship except Kerry. If Kerry win the have to play the last team in munster ie Clare Tipp or Cork. And the gaa say they like to promote hurling in the weaker counties. Pure and utter horse manure. Same in football for years the other 4 in munster besides Kerry and Cork were treated like dirt. Anyway back to the hurling. Tipp and Cork the game of the weekend for me really. So hard to call. Galway seem to have injury problems which won't help. I expect the Wexicans to beat Clare. The sideline could be good as Davy and Lohan don't like each other at all.
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Replying To CiarraiMick: "As a Kerryman I have to say Kerry are treated very unfairly in the hurling. Twice a few years back when they won div 2 they had to play the bottom team of div 1 in order to get promoted. Pure unadulterated drivel. Now if any team wins Joe McDonagh Cup they are promoted to senior championship except Kerry. If Kerry win the have to play the last team in munster ie Clare Tipp or Cork. And the gaa say they like to promote hurling in the weaker counties. Pure and utter horse manure. Same in football for years the other 4 in munster besides Kerry and Cork were treated like dirt. Anyway back to the hurling. Tipp and Cork the game of the weekend for me really. So hard to call. Galway seem to have injury problems which won't help. I expect the Wexicans to beat Clare. The sideline could be good as Davy and Lohan don't like each other at all." The only beef I have with Kerry was when we wanted to play our games in Nowlan Park they voted against us when they had no skin in the game.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 979 - 11/11/2020 18:48:31
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Replying To CiarraiMick: "As a Kerryman I have to say Kerry are treated very unfairly in the hurling. Twice a few years back when they won div 2 they had to play the bottom team of div 1 in order to get promoted. Pure unadulterated drivel. Now if any team wins Joe McDonagh Cup they are promoted to senior championship except Kerry. If Kerry win the have to play the last team in munster ie Clare Tipp or Cork. And the gaa say they like to promote hurling in the weaker counties. Pure and utter horse manure. Same in football for years the other 4 in munster besides Kerry and Cork were treated like dirt. Anyway back to the hurling. Tipp and Cork the game of the weekend for me really. So hard to call. Galway seem to have injury problems which won't help. I expect the Wexicans to beat Clare. The sideline could be good as Davy and Lohan don't like each other at all." Mick that has been waved this year. Kerry would go straight into Leinster for 2021. Bizarre to say the least ,not into their own province. Anyways here's to enjoying this weekend games.
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Hard to know how good are Cork. Dublin were good for 15 mins. against Kilkenny when the game was just about over we thought. Kilkenny took their foot off the pedal and are were not good enough to turn it back on. Tipp aren't as bad as they looked against Limerick. Tipp do lack a bit of pace in the defense which could be a problem if Cork get going like they did last week. I don't see Tipp letting that happen. Clare's injuries will catch up to them against Wexford. They are not deep enough to loose the caliber of players they have lost and not have it affect them. Galway have more talent then Kilkenny but they often did in the past and failed to win. If Galway show up I can't see Kilkenny winning but, if they slip a bit Kilkenny will do the same thing they did to Limerick last year. Waterford are much improved under Cahill. I think in another year he will have them completely straightened out. Still some selfishness to some of their play. I think Limerick learned their lesson last year that you don't take any team for granted and should win comfortably.
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