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Replying To LobinstownMan: "Gents, please pay no heed to the poorly written inane ramblings of Royaldunne, he neither knows nor represents Meath GAA and he proved himself not to be a man of conviction when he refused to delete his account in 2013 having undertaken to do should Tyrone beat Meath, which they did. Unfortunately, Hoganstand doesn't offer a block function so the more discerning GAA fans among us must breeze past his waffle whenever it pollutes these pages." Haha. Brilliant the fact I'm annoying even fake Meath posters makes my day. :)).
Nothing to post about my social media today no ??
Dry ur eyes. And u know what ur opinion means to me ?? About as much as what I strode on in the street. Now run along, don't forget to log into ur multitude of accounts to green button urself.
Or better still get a boyfriend/girlfriend to make u not so touchy. Also I did step away and a campaign was organised to get me back. So I have remained. And will remain. So sit on that Richard :)
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 09/11/2020 16:33:31
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Anyway I guess having stalkers is a price of fame. :)" You're barking up the wrong tree and have got the wrong man, my friend. I'm sorry to hear of your troubles but you've got the wrong man. Please withdraw that accusation.
LobinstownMan (Meath) - Posts: 119 - 09/11/2020 16:50:28
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Replying To lambofgod: "Battle of two second rate division 2 teams to see who will have the pleasure of being destroyed by Dublin again.
Yawn!!" A pleasure you have experienced on many occasions and a warm welcome to Division Two.
seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 1432 - 09/11/2020 16:52:44
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Replying To royaldunne: "Furlong is a Meath if not national treasure. I love seeing his posts come up, it means a genuine honest appraisal of a team and a match. I've said it before himself and Ollie from Louth should get together and write a gaa book. Their knowledge and details that many others forgot (myself included) or didn't know is astounding. Long may he continue to post." Thanks Royaldunne your a gentleman. I do appreciate what you say. Thanks again.
Just on the match no one in Meath would be surprised if kildare win why? 98 03 10 11 twice 17. Kildare have produced some outstanding performances v Meath in the last 20 years even in the 90s when we had the best team in the country. I expect Kildare will throw kitchen sink at Meath and if we do not perform we are out. And yes we can win like we did in 97 01 07 12 14.
Its a very hard game to call and I am very wary of kildare. In last 15 years at every grade kildare have been our main rival. It is a very equal rivalry. If Meath could get 1 point win I would be delighted as I expect kildare to tear into Meath put up their best performance of the year and if Meath dont perform to a very high level. We will be out. This is a very tough game for kildare and this is very tough game for Meath.
Whoever loses wouldnt break the team. Next 24 months is more massive for both teams. Getting back to div 1 and stayiing or not staying there will make or break both teams. But winning on Sunday and if whoever wins can keep the score v Dubs below ten and stay competitve to last 15 or so mins and it will great end to the year. And it is about bragging rights.
The Dubs are the tradtional rival and Meaths great obession. But in last 15 to 20 years throughout Meath kildare have slowly become Meath rival When Meath beat kildare in championship in 2012 and 2014 and in the league in 2015 and 2019. They were victories were Meath supportere took great satisfaction from. The same way kildare supporters in 2017 twice took great satisfaction over two big defeats in Meath. Its a real proper gaa local derby. It matters because a rivalry. Best rivalry in leinster football.
Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1046 - 09/11/2020 16:53:36
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Replying To seadog54: "Its a 50/50 game, neither have any fear of each other, yesterday was our first win since we scraped by Clare about sixteen months ago, so I wont be getting carried away. It will come done to small margins and extra time is a good bet." A man with sense lol
Caoimhog88 (Kildare) - Posts: 79 - 09/11/2020 16:56:24
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Replying To LobinstownMan: "What on Earth are you talking about? You should rescind that scurrilous accusation immediately, again I have no idea what you're trying to connect me to.
Mods, please step in here.
Editor ---- Sorry royaldunne, LobinstownMan happens happens to be a member of a well known Syddan GAA clan. But less of the personal attacks and accusations boys." Thank you Editor - I eagerly await an apology from royaldunne.
LobinstownMan (Meath) - Posts: 119 - 09/11/2020 17:09:51
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DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 759 - 09/11/2020 17:40:58
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Replying To lambofgod: "Battle of two second rate division 2 teams to see who will have the pleasure of being destroyed by Dublin again.
Yawn!!" seriously mayo were the worst team we played this year apart from wicklow . Galway will do on job on ye again
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Replying To Furlong1949: "Thanks Royaldunne your a gentleman. I do appreciate what you say. Thanks again.
Just on the match no one in Meath would be surprised if kildare win why? 98 03 10 11 twice 17. Kildare have produced some outstanding performances v Meath in the last 20 years even in the 90s when we had the best team in the country. I expect Kildare will throw kitchen sink at Meath and if we do not perform we are out. And yes we can win like we did in 97 01 07 12 14.
Its a very hard game to call and I am very wary of kildare. In last 15 years at every grade kildare have been our main rival. It is a very equal rivalry. If Meath could get 1 point win I would be delighted as I expect kildare to tear into Meath put up their best performance of the year and if Meath dont perform to a very high level. We will be out. This is a very tough game for kildare and this is very tough game for Meath.
Whoever loses wouldnt break the team. Next 24 months is more massive for both teams. Getting back to div 1 and stayiing or not staying there will make or break both teams. But winning on Sunday and if whoever wins can keep the score v Dubs below ten and stay competitve to last 15 or so mins and it will great end to the year. And it is about bragging rights.
The Dubs are the tradtional rival and Meaths great obession. But in last 15 to 20 years throughout Meath kildare have slowly become Meath rival When Meath beat kildare in championship in 2012 and 2014 and in the league in 2015 and 2019. They were victories were Meath supportere took great satisfaction from. The same way kildare supporters in 2017 twice took great satisfaction over two big defeats in Meath. Its a real proper gaa local derby. It matters because a rivalry. Best rivalry in leinster football." Absolutely no reason to be wary of Kildare.
Meath have only seen Kildare as their rivals in because they are not in any position to compete with Dublin.
Meath's spell in Div 1 this year will mean they are better equipped to compete with Dublin in the Leinster final.
They are well places to keep the score below 10 pts. against the Dubs.
catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1647 - 09/11/2020 21:39:20
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I can only presume that the rubbish spouted on here by some Meath supporters doesn't reflect the general attitude in the county. The idea that Kildare and all these other counties mentioned view Meath as some sort of scalp is laughable. No county fears Meath anymore than about 8 to 10 other counties in the Division 2 realm.
Kildare and Meath are currently pretty much at a similar level and for both managers; this game is their primary barometer for how they have progressed this season. Meath are probably coming into this game with a slight bit more pressure based on their scoring return against Wicklow, their poor run of results against Kildare in championship outings of late and maybe, most importantly, due to the fact that this is Andy McEntee's fourth / fifth year at the helm whereas Jack O'Connor is in his first year.
Sometimes managers receive a bounce in their first year because of raised energy levels or renewed enthusiasm but this is probably the worst year ever to be a manager in his first year with a team.
It's also an intriguing test of the age old predicament - whether it's better to be playing at a level above yourself and losing, all the while learning and hoping to improve by playing at the pace of better teams or play at your appropriate level and gain the confidence and cohesiveness that comes from winning and playing games on your own terms.
Both teams seem to have unearthed a few new starlets in recent months that will hopefully come through on Sunday and produce good performances.
The win v Wicklow will do Meath no harm at all after such a long string of games without a win. I think they will benefit from the confidence it brings. They seem to have a new blend of exciting new footballers along with the bit of metal and strength around the middle third.
Kildare v Offaly was obviously a lot tighter. Offaly are a better team than Wicklow but Kildare would have expected to win with more to spare but they looked a little shapeless and seemed to suffer from a lack of focus. To that effect, hopefully we also see Mick O'Grady back fit for Sunday. Shea Ryan did very well v McNamee but I think he is a better corner back at the moment than full back.
Kildare can take a lot from their wins over Cavan and Westmeath in the last 2 wins of the league when Kildare won both games well. It's important to note that both games had a large amount of pressure too with defeat in either placing Kildare in real relegation problems. They were two different kinds of games, the Cavan game being more open while the Westmeath was a cagier affair.
Both teams will be confident going in on Sunday and neither will fear the other.
I'd worry slightly about Kildare's game plan at the moment. I'm not sure if it's as clearly defined or worked out as Meath's and I think that could be the decisive factor in the game. If this was a normal season I would probably have swung in favour of Kildare winning by a point or two but I think Meath are further down the road at the moment than Kildare and I think they should shade it.
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Replying To SallinsMan: "I can only presume that the rubbish spouted on here by some Meath supporters doesn't reflect the general attitude in the county. The idea that Kildare and all these other counties mentioned view Meath as some sort of scalp is laughable. No county fears Meath anymore than about 8 to 10 other counties in the Division 2 realm.
Kildare and Meath are currently pretty much at a similar level and for both managers; this game is their primary barometer for how they have progressed this season. Meath are probably coming into this game with a slight bit more pressure based on their scoring return against Wicklow, their poor run of results against Kildare in championship outings of late and maybe, most importantly, due to the fact that this is Andy McEntee's fourth / fifth year at the helm whereas Jack O'Connor is in his first year.
Sometimes managers receive a bounce in their first year because of raised energy levels or renewed enthusiasm but this is probably the worst year ever to be a manager in his first year with a team.
It's also an intriguing test of the age old predicament - whether it's better to be playing at a level above yourself and losing, all the while learning and hoping to improve by playing at the pace of better teams or play at your appropriate level and gain the confidence and cohesiveness that comes from winning and playing games on your own terms.
Both teams seem to have unearthed a few new starlets in recent months that will hopefully come through on Sunday and produce good performances.
The win v Wicklow will do Meath no harm at all after such a long string of games without a win. I think they will benefit from the confidence it brings. They seem to have a new blend of exciting new footballers along with the bit of metal and strength around the middle third.
Kildare v Offaly was obviously a lot tighter. Offaly are a better team than Wicklow but Kildare would have expected to win with more to spare but they looked a little shapeless and seemed to suffer from a lack of focus. To that effect, hopefully we also see Mick O'Grady back fit for Sunday. Shea Ryan did very well v McNamee but I think he is a better corner back at the moment than full back.
Kildare can take a lot from their wins over Cavan and Westmeath in the last 2 wins of the league when Kildare won both games well. It's important to note that both games had a large amount of pressure too with defeat in either placing Kildare in real relegation problems. They were two different kinds of games, the Cavan game being more open while the Westmeath was a cagier affair.
Both teams will be confident going in on Sunday and neither will fear the other.
I'd worry slightly about Kildare's game plan at the moment. I'm not sure if it's as clearly defined or worked out as Meath's and I think that could be the decisive factor in the game. If this was a normal season I would probably have swung in favour of Kildare winning by a point or two but I think Meath are further down the road at the moment than Kildare and I think they should shade it." Overall I think you described the game really well. But for me I would be expecting a huge performance from kildare on Sunday. And Meath will have to give their best performance this year to beat kildare. Its a very hard game to call. Almost hard to predict whats going to happen. Its a derby game. Its a cliche but form does go out window. If you think back to 2010 q final or 2012 leinster final no one saw Meaths performance coming in 2012 and no one saw kildares performance coming in 2010. Its hard to know what going to happen. No one expected kildare to blow away Meath in. 2017.
There is a very unpredictable part to Sunday. They are two very young teams and panels. Kildare had 7 debutants on Sunday Meath had 6 debutants. The teams that played in 2017 are two completely different teams. Even from last years league game v kildsre both teams have changed. Of the players who played for Meath yesterday 7 of the 15 who started v Wicklow werent even on the Meath panel when Meath played kildare last spring 2019 . If you include subs..12 of the Meath players who played v Wicklow yesterday 12 of those players were not even on the Meath panel.when Meath beat kildare last year March 2019. And kildare also have new faces. These two teams have never really played each other before. So there really is no recent formguide we can follow. Of the Meath team who played v kildsare in 2017 twenty Meath players who played v kildare in 2017 are not on the Meath panel anymore.
No one is saying beating Meath would be scalp. But kildare and Meath is a rivalry , like Cavan and Monaghani is a rivalry or leitrim or Roscommon is rivalry or Clare and limerik in hurling is a rivalry. Its more a local rivalry. Go up to Maynooth or kilcock or Johntownbridge beating Meath matters. And throughout kildare it the same. Its not because it a scalp. Its because Kildare dont like Meath. Its that shower over the border.
The same for Meath, its not a scalp beating kildare. Meath dont like kildare eitheir. Kildare have replaced Dublin as Meaths main rival in last 20 years. Go up to Summerhill Enfield Moynalvey kilcloon beating kildare matters more then any other team. Nothing usual they are gaa neighbours, counties on each other border bragging rights it matters.
Regards where you say Meath poor record v kildare recently is not really correct. In last 3 championship games meath have won 2 of the last 3 championshup game between Meath and kildare. In last 6 competitive games Meath have won 4 times kildare twice
In 2012 Meath beat kildare in leinster semi final
In 2014 Meath beat kildare in leinster semi final
In 2015 Meath beat kildare in league
In 2017 kildare beat Meath in league
In 2017 kildare beat Meath in leinster semu final
In 2019 Meath beat kildare in league
Its in 2010 2011 kildare had unprecedented wins over Meath under McGeeney
In 2010 kildare beat Meath in q final
In 2011 kildare beat Meath in league
In 2011 kildare beat Meath in leinster q final
In 2011 kildsre beat Meath in qualifiers
And there is Byrne cup win for kildare also during that period.
Since Meath and kildare modern rivalry began in late 90s
There has been 6 kildare victories eg 98 03 10 11 twice 17
There has been 5 Meath victories eg 97 01 07 12 14
In the last 60 years Since 1960 in Meath v kildare games
There has been 11 Meath victories
There has been 10 kildare victories.
In total there has been 18 kildare victories and 17 Meath victories.
In terms of results between both counties its one closest in the country in terms of records against each other. There is no other county Ireland has such record with Meath.
Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1046 - 09/11/2020 23:10:02
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Yawn!!" A mouthy Mayo man, don't worry we'll show you how to beat Dublin, dry your eyes.
TrimJim (Meath) - Posts: 23 - 10/11/2020 06:36:23
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Replying To SallinsMan: "I can only presume that the rubbish spouted on here by some Meath supporters doesn't reflect the general attitude in the county. The idea that Kildare and all these other counties mentioned view Meath as some sort of scalp is laughable. No county fears Meath anymore than about 8 to 10 other counties in the Division 2 realm.
Kildare and Meath are currently pretty much at a similar level and for both managers; this game is their primary barometer for how they have progressed this season. Meath are probably coming into this game with a slight bit more pressure based on their scoring return against Wicklow, their poor run of results against Kildare in championship outings of late and maybe, most importantly, due to the fact that this is Andy McEntee's fourth / fifth year at the helm whereas Jack O'Connor is in his first year.
Sometimes managers receive a bounce in their first year because of raised energy levels or renewed enthusiasm but this is probably the worst year ever to be a manager in his first year with a team.
It's also an intriguing test of the age old predicament - whether it's better to be playing at a level above yourself and losing, all the while learning and hoping to improve by playing at the pace of better teams or play at your appropriate level and gain the confidence and cohesiveness that comes from winning and playing games on your own terms.
Both teams seem to have unearthed a few new starlets in recent months that will hopefully come through on Sunday and produce good performances.
The win v Wicklow will do Meath no harm at all after such a long string of games without a win. I think they will benefit from the confidence it brings. They seem to have a new blend of exciting new footballers along with the bit of metal and strength around the middle third.
Kildare v Offaly was obviously a lot tighter. Offaly are a better team than Wicklow but Kildare would have expected to win with more to spare but they looked a little shapeless and seemed to suffer from a lack of focus. To that effect, hopefully we also see Mick O'Grady back fit for Sunday. Shea Ryan did very well v McNamee but I think he is a better corner back at the moment than full back.
Kildare can take a lot from their wins over Cavan and Westmeath in the last 2 wins of the league when Kildare won both games well. It's important to note that both games had a large amount of pressure too with defeat in either placing Kildare in real relegation problems. They were two different kinds of games, the Cavan game being more open while the Westmeath was a cagier affair.
Both teams will be confident going in on Sunday and neither will fear the other.
I'd worry slightly about Kildare's game plan at the moment. I'm not sure if it's as clearly defined or worked out as Meath's and I think that could be the decisive factor in the game. If this was a normal season I would probably have swung in favour of Kildare winning by a point or two but I think Meath are further down the road at the moment than Kildare and I think they should shade it." Good post. Very hard to know if Div 1 was of benefit to Meath this year. Kildare had a similar campaign 2 years previously (competitive but relegated) and hard to know if it benefited them either.
But then again is league placement over played? Cork won Div 3 and that momentum gave them to confidence not to fear Kerry and to knock out the Div 1 champions! I personally think it's therefore more important, in terms of a championship run, for teams like Kildare and Meath to play well in league and get confidence up (no matter what division seemingly) than it is to play in Div 1 just for the sake of it and lose confidence and momentum.
Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 926 - 10/11/2020 07:07:23
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Replying To Crinigan: "Good post. Very hard to know if Div 1 was of benefit to Meath this year. Kildare had a similar campaign 2 years previously (competitive but relegated) and hard to know if it benefited them either.
But then again is league placement over played? Cork won Div 3 and that momentum gave them to confidence not to fear Kerry and to knock out the Div 1 champions! I personally think it's therefore more important, in terms of a championship run, for teams like Kildare and Meath to play well in league and get confidence up (no matter what division seemingly) than it is to play in Div 1 just for the sake of it and lose confidence and momentum." I definitely think our 2018 championship campaign off the back of division 1 relegation was one of our best in recent times, with the qualifier win over Mayo and strong showing in the super 8's. I do wonder though if the massive gap in games and collective training might somewhat detract from the boost you might expect from competing in division 1 this year.
That's said, Meath do look strong and I'm actually surprised anyone could do what Meath did to Wicklow in aughrim, when Wicklow have the bit between their teeth.
I never felt threatened by Offaly, despite the ever tight score line, Kildare just had a dominant feel to them, squandering huge amounts of scoring chances really flattered Offaly with the final score I think, so if Kildare can cut down on the wastefulness in front of goal, we're probably in for a great contest. Here's to hoping anyways!
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Replying To SallinsMan: "I can only presume that the rubbish spouted on here by some Meath supporters doesn't reflect the general attitude in the county. The idea that Kildare and all these other counties mentioned view Meath as some sort of scalp is laughable. No county fears Meath anymore than about 8 to 10 other counties in the Division 2 realm.
Kildare and Meath are currently pretty much at a similar level and for both managers; this game is their primary barometer for how they have progressed this season. Meath are probably coming into this game with a slight bit more pressure based on their scoring return against Wicklow, their poor run of results against Kildare in championship outings of late and maybe, most importantly, due to the fact that this is Andy McEntee's fourth / fifth year at the helm whereas Jack O'Connor is in his first year.
Sometimes managers receive a bounce in their first year because of raised energy levels or renewed enthusiasm but this is probably the worst year ever to be a manager in his first year with a team.
It's also an intriguing test of the age old predicament - whether it's better to be playing at a level above yourself and losing, all the while learning and hoping to improve by playing at the pace of better teams or play at your appropriate level and gain the confidence and cohesiveness that comes from winning and playing games on your own terms.
Both teams seem to have unearthed a few new starlets in recent months that will hopefully come through on Sunday and produce good performances.
The win v Wicklow will do Meath no harm at all after such a long string of games without a win. I think they will benefit from the confidence it brings. They seem to have a new blend of exciting new footballers along with the bit of metal and strength around the middle third.
Kildare v Offaly was obviously a lot tighter. Offaly are a better team than Wicklow but Kildare would have expected to win with more to spare but they looked a little shapeless and seemed to suffer from a lack of focus. To that effect, hopefully we also see Mick O'Grady back fit for Sunday. Shea Ryan did very well v McNamee but I think he is a better corner back at the moment than full back.
Kildare can take a lot from their wins over Cavan and Westmeath in the last 2 wins of the league when Kildare won both games well. It's important to note that both games had a large amount of pressure too with defeat in either placing Kildare in real relegation problems. They were two different kinds of games, the Cavan game being more open while the Westmeath was a cagier affair.
Both teams will be confident going in on Sunday and neither will fear the other.
I'd worry slightly about Kildare's game plan at the moment. I'm not sure if it's as clearly defined or worked out as Meath's and I think that could be the decisive factor in the game. If this was a normal season I would probably have swung in favour of Kildare winning by a point or two but I think Meath are further down the road at the moment than Kildare and I think they should shade it." Hard to disagree with any of that. Ultimately this is very difficult to call. Hard to know if Meath really have progressed and Kildare are somewhat of an unknown quantity under Jack O'Connor at this stage.
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Meath -
1,A Colgan
2 S Lavin,
3 C McGill,
4 D Toner;
5 D Keogan,
6 Ronan Ryan,
7 M Costello
8 B Menton
9 R Jones
10 C O'Sullivan
11 B McMahon
12 S McEntee
13 J Morris
14 S Walsh
15 J Conlon
Subs T O'Reilly J Wallace ,E Devine J Scully , C Hickey E Harkin
This team I think will prevail, NOT BY MUCH, but hopefully will see us into Leinster final.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 10/11/2020 12:38:59
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lambofgod (Mayo) - Posts: 114 - 10/11/2020 15:08:51
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Replying To lambofgod: "Still beat ye didnt we." You did, it was a good game but Mayo deserved the win.
Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8583 - 10/11/2020 15:28:18
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