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I wouldn't bet against Donegal either on a fine Summers day lol !! I don't know where this stuff started about us being this big strong team good in the Winter conditions, our boys prefer the sun on their backs and a dry ball in my opinion. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1076 - 09/11/2020 10:54:27 2306687 Link 0 |
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Are there any rules against that happening? Don't see an issue with it personally. It's an amateur sport at the end of the day, what lads do outside of the sport isn't really anybody's business. It's not as if Keane dominated the game there yesterday.
JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1125 - 09/11/2020 11:01:09 2306693 Link 2 |
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I think that is a subjective opinion myself, Kerry are a very good competitive team, but Kerry got a draw last year, but Dublin were cantering until Cooper was sent off, 14 Dublin men held Kerry last year and looked the more liekly team to win the first game in the end. The second game 15 Vs 15, was a 6 point gap. Not sure Kerry hold any fear factor for Dublin, good a team as they are, but you expect to compete against good team consistently in the latter stages of the championship. This year was a great chance for Kerry but its also a great chance now for other teams this year to catch Dublin on the hop, with new management and loads of retirements and opt outs. It still is a great opportunity for someone. Mayo are the team who have gotten closest to Dublin and know us inside out, id say they'd love a cut of us in Dessies first year, Donegal are the last team to beat us in the Championship and i would argue probably have a more talented balanced team now with Bonnar and his philosophy in there a while now. While Galway have more then a punchers chance with how they were motoring in spring and seriously coming in under the radar, i wouldn't be fooled by their last two results in the league, its rope a dope stuff. I do think Galway and Dublin are more level as both have new managers at the helm. I also think Cork are a much better team then they actually showed yesterday offensively. I think if there is wisdom to be gotten from yesterday is that you dont look to far ahead, each game is each game and focus has to be total on what's next. There is an equalising factor this year with knock out and winter ball, any team can bring any other team down to the trenches and make a battle out of it like yesterday. If i was Laois, Kildare or Meath id be looking at what Cork did yesterday and try to do exactly the same with bringing a game into the trenches. If i was Dessie id be sitting down and playing yesterday game for the squad and coming up with the plan around how Cork dictated imposed the style of the game on Kerry. Dublin and other teams need to mindful now of teams bringing the game into the trenches and turning it into the type of battle we saw yesterday. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 3671 - 09/11/2020 11:01:45 2306694 Link 3 |
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Galway beating Mayo would not be a shock. They were boasting about being the ones to officially relegated us before that game in Tuam and were seen as the closest challengers to Dublin...but obviously have been awful since the break. If sport and yesterday teaches us anything form can honour the window very quickly. Galway v Mayo next Sunday will be a hell of a lot closer than the Tuam game. Also I see Brolly was making fun of Pat Spillane...prior to the Mayo v Cork game in 2011, Brolly himself totally disrespected Mayo and said "when Cork beat Mayo there will be no bad teams left"......Mayo went on to beat Cork. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 10339 - 09/11/2020 11:28:46 2306711 Link 2 |
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Delighted with that result! Fair play to Cork. Maybe it's just me but I find something very unlikable about Peter Keane the way he comes across! Madness getting rid of Donie Buckley! maximus02 (Longford) - Posts: 115 - 09/11/2020 11:53:10 2306725 Link 1 |
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True that. But the big difference is that we have the forwards to punish teams, even when the opposing team ''brings us into the trenches". Cork proved yesterday that if you nullify Clifford and O'Shea, your halfway to beating them. Whereas with us, if you nullify Con O'Calaghan, Rock will step up. Nullify Rock, Kilkenny will step up. Nullify Kilkenny, Mannion does the job. My point being Kerry are two reliant on those two players. Dublin are not reliant on any one player. What' the story with Mannion anyway? ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 1922 - 09/11/2020 11:55:03 2306727 Link 0 |
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One way or another Mayo would have beaten that Kerry team if they met and are much more of a danger to Dublin than Kerry and have been over the last few years
dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 444 - 09/11/2020 11:57:30 2306730 Link 1 |
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Did kerry get rid of Donie Buckley, or did he walk away due to differing views/tactics to those of PK...?
Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3309 - 09/11/2020 11:58:54 2306733 Link 0 |
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Just thought of it after I typed. Actually better.
CC2020 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 46 - 09/11/2020 12:16:14 2306745 Link 1 |
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Galway beating Mayo would nt be a shock. That's a50/50 fame. It is my belief that Mayo have a better chance of winning Sam than Galway but that game will be close and could go anyway. A lot of us here are accused of yerra yerra when we talked up Cork but now you see. Also Armagh won't win Sam but could give Donegal some battle. Sam is between Dubs Donegal Mayo but if Mayo and Donegal beaten along the way it's a foregone conclusion.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 630 - 09/11/2020 12:20:10 2306749 Link 1 |
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big congrats to cork, they were probably lucky with that goal and the clifford misses but they proved without doubt that big teams can be taken with hard work and getting player back from AFL :D Kerry may feel robbed but if they failed to win in ordinary time they were there for the taking, simple as. tipp will have no fear of them but you would imagine that battle will make Cork strong favourites gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 202 - 09/11/2020 12:23:51 2306751 Link 0 |
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Agreed.
ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 1922 - 09/11/2020 12:24:26 2306752 Link 0 |
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So how good are cork then, i have to say i know very little about them, a few of the names on that timesheet ive never heard of. HuddHastings (Longford) - Posts: 77 - 09/11/2020 12:25:31 2306753 Link 0 |
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Can Galway really improve that much in only 4 weeks though.? I cant see it. It will be closer than the league encounter, but also take into account Galway had no game v Sligo to sharpen themselves. I think it will be Mayo v Cork in the AI Semi Final now. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3309 - 09/11/2020 12:37:29 2306758 Link 1 |
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Im just smiling at your post Tír Conáil. It's easy be wise in the aftermath. You never bought into the Kerry hype but only recently on another post you forecasted that Kerry would win the all ireland by beating dubs in the final. As I always say fellas are very wise after but always remember what you say previously. Cork beat us fair and square and maybe now a few posters will realise that Munster is nt as easy as some would think. We in Kerry always have the height of respect for Cork and always very wary of them. Kerry will be back and are still a fine team. It's kit as if we were destroyed and jn triumph we shall return. For now though I look forward to watching the rest of the championship without biting my nails and can appreciate the likes of Shane Walsh Con Ó Callaghan Luke Connolly Tommy Conroy Michael Murphy etc
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 630 - 09/11/2020 12:41:58 2306760 Link 1 |
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My own belief is Cork are not a bad team and are capable of getting to a final but probably not strong enough yet to win. Its hard to know really because Cork v Kerry is a strange rivalry. Bad Cork and Kerry teams can rise and play well against each other but might not be as good as the look in doing so. Cork though have potential but prob a year too soon for them for the big prize. Also Cork would ve put so much effort into beating Kerry they should be careful of Tipp.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 630 - 09/11/2020 12:47:05 2306766 Link 1 |
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I think any team that has a design on a period of success you have to be every team. I think you can get away with one year with a bit of luck but as the standard bearer as championships you are the mark teams try to be like. I was looking over the weekend at most teams are trying to play a system like Dublin. Hybrid players who can bolster most lines, break offensively and flood back. While turning your half backs into attackers Peter Keane been trying to play defenders at wing half forward yesterday - like we do with Howard and Scully, Walsh in the square in his own half yesterday - like our forwards defend and bringing a third man into center filed. Most teams are trying to do what Dublin to be honest. But you need the balance, you need to be swashbuckling, you need the pace, you need the collective forward unit, you need the cutting edge. You also need to be in the battle, when you are under cosh, you need to bolster lines, in midfield and at the back and fight. When i reflect back on our recent All Ireland wins, i can think of finals of Champaign swashbuckling football, creating our own luck, being mentally strong in pressure moments and battling it out tooth and nail. I think you if you want to be the best and the best over a period of time you have to learn how to win every way you can. Its why we have been so difficult to beat we can play the game anyway - certainly under Jim, bit to early on Dessie yet. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 3671 - 09/11/2020 13:15:54 2306789 Link 2 |
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I see the Galway coot hoots are out in force talking up Mayo ahead of next Sunday. The reality is that Mayo are a team in transition and at this stage are in bonus territory. It usually takes a few years for a team to gel and Horan is only into the first few months of rebuilding. Who outside of Mayo had heard of, Eoghan McLoughlin, Oisin Mullin, Rory Brickenden, Bryan Walsh, Ryan O Donoghoe, Jordan Flynn, Mark Moran or Padraic O Hora before this year. Yet they have all played in this years championship. Galway are a settled team who, before a blip against Mayo, were favourites to win the League and seen as the nearest challengers to Dublin and Kerry. Nothing less than an All Ireland appearance will be acceptable in Galway at this stage of their development, whereas Mayo, by beating Roscommon have already exceeded expectations. We will be disappointed if we don't have a team capable of challenging the Kerry's, Galway's andDonegals of this world in two or three years time but at the minute we are well back in the pack. I was impressed with Corks handling of the ball in the awful conditions against Kerry. I was surprised that they didn't let a few kicks into that big lad but they were very patient in possession and it paid off for them in the end. Kerry will kick themselves over the missed frees. As for Clifford's point, they are grand when they go over but you would be encouraging lads, however talented, not to shoot from that angle. You wouldn't see the Dubs taking on shots like that, or missing frees for that matter. A change of mindset might not be any harm. Donegal are the only ones to have a chance, albeit a slight one, against the Dubs. Although it's a funny year and you never know on a bad day with a couple of red cards, a couple of bad decisions, maybe even a couple of own goals Donegal might go close. Still I think by this time next the Dubs will be talking seven. Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1105 - 09/11/2020 13:37:20 2306800 Link 2 |
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Not to worry llaw sure ye have Willie Joe Biden now :-)
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 11732 - 09/11/2020 14:58:58 2306839 Link 1 |
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Yeah nice thought KingdomBoy. Maybe if you took a few of them great greats off the grandfather he might pay off the debt on McHale Park or maybe pay for a few of them special "volunteer" coaches but I think the relationship is a bit too far back to get him involved in Mayo for Sam. Anyway them Yanks don't usually be too foolish with their dollars.
Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1105 - 09/11/2020 15:18:57 2306846 Link 1 |