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Replying To bennybunny:  "Fair play to the Kerry lads on here. Magnanimous in defeat. The rivalry needed this shot on the arm. Those criticising Clifford would want to cop on. He is pure class. A genius and that point sickened me as I thought that was it. McStay is Brutal but name a better point in the last 30 years.. Conditions nature of the game, and timing in the game, the pressure, captaincy.. Guy is class. He is 20 years of age and he is captain of Kerry and he can only drag the rest of his (some overly cocky) teammates through so many games.. A few of them buckos might learn from today and others might be gone after today....there are a few them that can really suck on this defeat"
Well said, his a class player, well done on the win, not the best game but you can't beat knockout football, great excitement.

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 517 - 08/11/2020 20:09:48    2306389

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What a result and despite the low scoring, what a game. Well down to Cork and hard luck Kerry.

I don't think anyone can deny it was the correct call to have a championship...look at social media...everyone is talking about it...it's one of the few rays of light in an otherwise boring existence we are temporarily living.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 10339 - 08/11/2020 20:14:36    2306395

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Congratulations Cork.....
Definitely Laois and Armagh will take huge encouragement from those tatics and team effort on how to ambush a big gun....Dublin & Donegal
Could there be more shocks !!!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 1058 - 08/11/2020 20:20:59    2306404

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Kerry went in with the wrong attitude completely today and it came back to bite them without a doubt, but as I said on another thread the amount of scores they left behind them there must be an absolute sickener if you're a Kerry supporter. Gimme frees from 20-30 metres out missed, mark not taken, goal chances not taken, going for goal when you shouldn't (as good as the attempt was from Clifford, he had an easy point available) and then on the flipside you get ridiculous scores from impossible angles. The drawn match especially last year Kerry were awfully wasteful that day too, it's a definite issue for them as far as I can tell.

Repeating myself as well but I just don't understand Spillane not being involved from the start, was he Kerry's top scorer and him starting from the bench today? They played into Cork's hands completely I thought. Cork scrapped and fought for everything and they played some nice stuff themselves, nice kicks in to their forwards always giving them a chance to win their own ball. Some of their score-taking as well was fantastic, dhia that one off the ground from near the sideline was some score to get it back within 1.

Comhghairdeas mór Corcaigh though, exciting times for them or Tipperary to get a Munster title and then have a right rattle at Mayo or Galway. What an opportunity for one of those four teams.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1125 - 08/11/2020 20:30:30    2306417

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They deserved that in fairness, esp after 2015 we only can blame ourselves.

I hope this once again proves how special and serious Kerry v Cork always is.

The greatest rivalry in Irish sport.

F"ck it anyway that they couldn't have hanged on to next year to do it :(

Hello darkness my old friend ....

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 5828 - 08/11/2020 20:36:52    2306422

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Replying To TheUsername:  "See my above post a chara. I think beyond Clifford, O Shea, O Sullivan, not sure the marquee players are there. Not sure if he had a knock but no Geaney seemed a strange one, O Brien similar, if nothing else he would have held on the half backs from supporting the play and Cork struggled with his and Spilannes pace when they came on.

If I was from Kerry I'd be looking at Peter Keane, I think he's learned nothing from the second game last year, what Cork did today were the Dublin tactics last year. He hasn't seemed to evolved from there, just expected for them to be better then last year, if anything they went more defensive today. I can imagine it's just not to be tolerated in Kerry to watch Dublin or Cork just knock the ball around in front of a Kerry blanket defence, run themselves into the ground and just picked off. Else wise I was looking at the physicality of the team, wouldn't blame the Kerry lads for will, but they are light and not a big physical team, pace and quick transition has to be the style of play, because the players won't get bigger.

I mean this with all respect, I was thinking to myself watching Kerry today, I can't wait to play these, that shouldn't be the case from a Kerry point of view.

Commiserations though, it's a bitter pill to swallow, I've been that solider on a first day out knock out, but thankfully it's a short year.

Championship will be a poorer place without Clifford, O Shea and TOS."
Very classy post Username. I guess it's easy slate after a defeat but I agree with you on Keane and I have texted before on Kerry forum. He s too Conservative for my liking. In Kerry we are blessed with some natural scoring forwards but while I admit the day of 6 scoring forwards is gone, I still would like at least 4 so that if players have an off day others can step up. Before the game I was nervous when he placed Ó Beaglaoi half forward as he s an out and out defender. Clifford prob over confident at times but he will be fine. All players will have off days and even at that he scored well. Anyway while I'm disappointed I can sit back and enjoy the rest of the championship stress free lol.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 630 - 08/11/2020 20:38:15    2306425

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Replying To katser:  "Congratulations Cork.....
Definitely Laois and Armagh will take huge encouragement from those tatics and team effort on how to ambush a big gun....Dublin & Donegal
Could there be more shocks !!!"
Galway will have taken heart too I'd say, there is life for underdogs in championship yet ;-)

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1125 - 08/11/2020 20:40:02    2306427

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Replying To bennybunny:  "Fair play to the Kerry lads on here. Magnanimous in defeat. The rivalry needed this shot on the arm. Those criticising Clifford would want to cop on. He is pure class. A genius and that point sickened me as I thought that was it. McStay is Brutal but name a better point in the last 30 years.. Conditions nature of the game, and timing in the game, the pressure, captaincy.. Guy is class. He is 20 years of age and he is captain of Kerry and he can only drag the rest of his (some overly cocky) teammates through so many games.. A few of them buckos might learn from today and others might be gone after today....there are a few them that can really suck on this defeat"
Very kind post Benny and congrats again.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 630 - 08/11/2020 20:40:29    2306428

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Replying To bennybunny:  "Fair play to the Kerry lads on here. Magnanimous in defeat. The rivalry needed this shot on the arm. Those criticising Clifford would want to cop on. He is pure class. A genius and that point sickened me as I thought that was it. McStay is Brutal but name a better point in the last 30 years.. Conditions nature of the game, and timing in the game, the pressure, captaincy.. Guy is class. He is 20 years of age and he is captain of Kerry and he can only drag the rest of his (some overly cocky) teammates through so many games.. A few of them buckos might learn from today and others might be gone after today....there are a few them that can really suck on this defeat"
Oisin Gallen's last wasn't bad either even though he not captain the other scenarios were very similar in probably worse conditions especially the pitch.

However completely with you regarding Clifford. The lad is an absolute phenomenon and even phenomenons don't always perform to their capacity every single time.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2458 - 08/11/2020 20:46:10    2306433

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Replying To bennybunny:  "Fair play to the Kerry lads on here. Magnanimous in defeat. The rivalry needed this shot on the arm. Those criticising Clifford would want to cop on. He is pure class. A genius and that point sickened me as I thought that was it. McStay is Brutal but name a better point in the last 30 years.. Conditions nature of the game, and timing in the game, the pressure, captaincy.. Guy is class. He is 20 years of age and he is captain of Kerry and he can only drag the rest of his (some overly cocky) teammates through so many games.. A few of them buckos might learn from today and others might be gone after today....there are a few them that can really suck on this defeat"
Better point, tougher set of circumstances... 2011 All Ireland Final = Cluxton

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1635 - 08/11/2020 20:49:13    2306438

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Replying To MesAmis:  "The in laws are already insufferable enough! At least they can't invade my gaf this year.

Seriously though a great shot in the arm for Cork GAA, and it was certainly needed.

Kerry seemed to control the entire game but left so many easy scores behind it was unreal and the goal at the end was some of the worst defending you'll ever see."
I don't think Kerry controlled the entire game. I'd say possession was fairly close to being equal. In the end Kerry did create more clear cut chances than Cork and we had an element of luck but we were more than holding our own to stay in the game and gave ourselves a punchers chance at the end. I was hoping for pens at that point. The goal was beyond my ambitions at that stage.

BaldyBadger (Cork) - Posts: 198 - 08/11/2020 20:58:37    2306453

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Dublin were the big winners today. Teams like Cork and Donegal play with great heart and will to win in the provincials, but they tend to underperform outside the province. Almost as if they haven't the ambition for it, and are chiefly motivated by sticking one on the near neighbours. Dramatic goal alright, and happy days for Cork, but my immediate reaction was well that's Dublin on top again.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 796 - 08/11/2020 21:01:17    2306457

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Replying To Fionn:  "Good point about Keane... I know some kerry folk are not overly happy with him at the helm.

But look, his resume at underage was unbelievable.
There is no way he wont be in charge for another year at least.

On Clifford, far too much pressure on him. And captain as well... not for me... too young.

As you say, minimise DC and SOS and you are half way there.
But as others mentioned - spillane should have started.

Wonder did the kerry lads take victory for granted today - it happens.
It has happened to us before also.

But this result should hopefully sharpen the focus of the remaining teams in this years Championship.

Still wide open though with the year that is in it....."
Declan Ó'Sullivan captained Kerry to 2 in a row in 06 and 07 as a 21 year old so Clifford isnt too young.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 11732 - 08/11/2020 21:01:45    2306458

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Replying To Morty:  "I'm thinking here... biggest upset of the last 10 years?"
Morty what about your beloved Westmeath beating Meath in 2015 to claim a historic first ever Championship victory? Westmeath were 8 points down at half time in that match.

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 221 - 08/11/2020 21:04:33    2306460

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Congrats to Cork. This is the earliest time that Kerry have been out of the Championship since 1994.

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 221 - 08/11/2020 21:06:39    2306463

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Replying To Ollie2:  "Morty what about your beloved Westmeath beating Meath in 2015 to claim a historic first ever Championship victory? Westmeath were 8 points down at half time in that match."
That was the most I was ever upset.
As I said once yourself I was so embarrassed about a semi since broke back mountain

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 08/11/2020 21:07:53    2306464

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Replying To Tir Conaill Abu:  "Better point, tougher set of circumstances... 2011 All Ireland Final = Cluxton"
Absolutely incredible last few seconds in the Park !!! Kerry certainly had their chances but Cork kept to their system and when there is just a point or two in it one second can change things and fair play to Cork.
Kerry looked good but never convincing and Cork just stuck at it and got and took their chance.
Knock out championship certainly is a different animal and Kerry just had no chance to fight back this evening.
Hard too for players playing in a no spectator arena, but Cork just kept to their script and got the chance.
Spillane loomed excellent with his pace and finishing and Cork struggled at midfield but Kerry just couldn't pull sufficiently clear.
Certainly is.one of the biggest ever shocks and will open up the championship.
Not sure whether this is a help or a hindrance to the Dubs.
Kerry have superb players and they will be back stronger than ever next year.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1521 - 08/11/2020 21:11:22    2306467

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "100% Gerry, we were told by certain posters from dublin that munster was a dead duck even though we told people that Cork were div 3 but will be a div 1 team by next summer, people said we were being cute Kerry hoor butbut their you go we know our football.

Dublin have the 6 now and I mean no disrespect to the remaining teams but that's it."
Hard to believe that 6 months ago Cork were in danger of not competing for Sam Maguire in 2021, as they were languishing in Division 3! What a crazy innovation by the GAA

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 535 - 08/11/2020 21:16:24    2306470

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Does All Irelands have to be in Croke Park, don't need big empty stadium. Think it would help to level teams up a bit

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 08/11/2020 21:17:32    2306472

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Replying To essmac:  "Dublin were the big winners today. Teams like Cork and Donegal play with great heart and will to win in the provincials, but they tend to underperform outside the province. Almost as if they haven't the ambition for it, and are chiefly motivated by sticking one on the near neighbours. Dramatic goal alright, and happy days for Cork, but my immediate reaction was well that's Dublin on top again."
Teams like Cork and Donegal are still in the championship and other teams are sitting on the sidelines wishing they were still in it..

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 895 - 08/11/2020 21:18:34    2306474

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