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Replying To sourmilk93:  "He wasn't asking the infected players to play. Just saying counties still could fulfil fixture if they really wanted too. Fermanagh and Roscommon already have missing large portions of their squads for league games"
And he's certain that the other players have no symptoms is he or is 100% Covid free?! Thought he was a teacher, not a doctor!! Great to know he knows more about what goes on within county panels than the actual people in the panels. Wonderful analyst really.

foneyforme (Leitrim) - Posts: 143 - 04/11/2020 11:17:14    2305052

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "Brogan suggested a few weeks that Inter County Squads isolate in hotels during championship . That would have been possible if it was professional, and who was suppose to fund that.

Shows imbalances of Provincial Championship with Galway 3 games from Winning Sam. It wil take Cavan 3 games to reach Ulster final. Granted London and NY couldn't play but Provincial structures need re jigging. Put Longford in Connacht"
If there were any plans to rejig the inter county championship the one province that would dig in the heels would be your own one.

republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 120 - 04/11/2020 11:17:39    2305053

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Maybe from Armagh and Tyrone. Tyrone oppose most things.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2216 - 04/11/2020 11:22:15    2305054

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "Brogan suggested a few weeks that Inter County Squads isolate in hotels during championship . That would have been possible if it was professional, and who was suppose to fund that.

Shows imbalances of Provincial Championship with Galway 3 games from Winning Sam. It wil take Cavan 3 games to reach Ulster final. Granted London and NY couldn't play but Provincial structures need re jigging. Put Longford in Connacht"
There will forever be an asterisk beside the 2020 All Ireland Football Championship winners so because Sligo, New York and London didn't participate in it, well at least Leitrim managed to put out a team this time.
Fair play to Fermanagh, they managed to put out a team and fulfil their league fixture despite the county panel being ravaged by positive tests. No tactics involved in forfeiting a game to rest players for the following week either. Tight effort if you can't find 20 players of some standard to play a game of football.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1076 - 04/11/2020 11:24:31    2305055

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Wouldn't it be great to see how Tomas O'Se would react to such things if he was an inter county manager, would be as gung ho to get a team playing in the midst of a pandemic. We'll probably never know because like some of his colleagues on the box he doesn't seem to want to put his thoughts into action!

republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 120 - 04/11/2020 11:32:34    2305057

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "There will forever be an asterisk beside the 2020 All Ireland Football Championship winners so because Sligo, New York and London didn't participate in it, well at least Leitrim managed to put out a team this time.
Fair play to Fermanagh, they managed to put out a team and fulfil their league fixture despite the county panel being ravaged by positive tests. No tactics involved in forfeiting a game to rest players for the following week either. Tight effort if you can't find 20 players of some standard to play a game of football."
Harder to field a team though when your neighbouring county come in and take your better players and then play them at centre half back!

foneyforme (Leitrim) - Posts: 143 - 04/11/2020 11:33:04    2305058

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Appalling tweet from Thomas IO Se, who incidentally has Sligo roots. The integrity of the championship is certainly tarnished, not because Sligo couldn't field but because a half ***** championship is going ahead. Remember in a poll a lot of players through the GPA didn't want this championship to go ahead. This championship has been media driven, as there would be no jobs for the boys if it didn't go ahead. It's amazing that not one pundit on the Sunday Game, not one journalist has said that the championship should not be held.

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 796 - 04/11/2020 11:33:15    2305059

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Disgraceful from O'Sé in my opinion, a player I have huge admiration for and in general I find his punditry a little better than the usual stuff you get on RTE. But his questioning doesn't even make sense,"does it suit them?", what a question to ask, this year of all years you could get a bolt out of nowhere to make a run for Sam, with the knockout element and the weather playing a big part, who knows what the semi-final make up is going to look like. Sligo are only two games away from an All-Ireland semi-final, to suggest they didn't explore every avenue to fulfill the fixture and the same for other "weaker" counties, ara I dunno where that is coming from.

What does he mean anyway, that they can use their minors or U21s or something? Or is it just a "they were going to lose anyway so just send out whatever 15 lads you can find" type attitude? Why should they call in lads who would be third or fourth string, when we're all supposed to be limiting contacts anyway, you're potentially starting a whole new cluster then.

And his tweet doesn't get away from the fact there is space in the calendar here to give Sligo a bit more time with this outbreak and see if they could fulfill the fixture a week later.

Best wishes to all in Sligo impacted by this I hope that all the positive cases and close contacts will be fit and healthy in a few weeks time.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1125 - 04/11/2020 11:33:36    2305060

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "There will forever be an asterisk beside the 2020 All Ireland Football Championship winners so because Sligo, New York and London didn't participate in it, well at least Leitrim managed to put out a team this time.
Fair play to Fermanagh, they managed to put out a team and fulfil their league fixture despite the county panel being ravaged by positive tests. No tactics involved in forfeiting a game to rest players for the following week either. Tight effort if you can't find 20 players of some standard to play a game of football."
We're only at the start of the championship, I'd be very surprised if there weren't more withdrawals in the hurling and football, and if there is any doubt over the safety of players and their families there should be more withdrawals.

republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 120 - 04/11/2020 11:35:08    2305061

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Replying To Daith:  "The championship would be cancelled if this happened to Dublin."
or kerry, cork,kilkenny or galway not just dublin

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 1925 - 04/11/2020 11:38:17    2305064

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Replying To foneyforme:  "And he's certain that the other players have no symptoms is he or is 100% Covid free?! Thought he was a teacher, not a doctor!! Great to know he knows more about what goes on within county panels than the actual people in the panels. Wonderful analyst really."
No he doesn't know and that is why in his statement and further comments he asked for the county to explain the full situation. Leitrim forfeited a league game against Down due to Covid and the chairman said in an interview afterwards they had available players to play but the team voted against playing because some had work and others didnt want to go. They were well within their right not to play if they didnt want too but simple fact was Leitrim could have played if they wanted. Roscommon and Fermanagh did play in similar situations and it remains to be seen if Sligo could have also

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 565 - 04/11/2020 11:38:36    2305065

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Replying To foneyforme:  "Harder to field a team though when your neighbouring county come in and take your better players and then play them at centre half back!"
You can take the man out of Leitrim but you can't take Leitrim out of the man, we welcome all asylum seekers in Donegal, we don't discriminate.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1076 - 04/11/2020 11:41:10    2305066

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It now seems that Sligo didn't actually request a postponement (according to the Connacht Council Secretary). If that's the case, it would be interesting to know how the decision to give a walkover came about. Did players and management have a say in the decision? Was the GPA involved? Or was the decision simply taken by the County Board.

The walkover also highlights the unbalanced nature of the championship - Galway can get to the All-Ireland semi by winning just one game. The COVID situation was the perfect opportunity to trial a seeded open draw.

football first (None) - Posts: 1181 - 04/11/2020 11:42:06    2305067

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Replying To JoeSoap:  "Disgraceful from O'Sé in my opinion, a player I have huge admiration for and in general I find his punditry a little better than the usual stuff you get on RTE. But his questioning doesn't even make sense,"does it suit them?", what a question to ask, this year of all years you could get a bolt out of nowhere to make a run for Sam, with the knockout element and the weather playing a big part, who knows what the semi-final make up is going to look like. Sligo are only two games away from an All-Ireland semi-final, to suggest they didn't explore every avenue to fulfill the fixture and the same for other "weaker" counties, ara I dunno where that is coming from.

What does he mean anyway, that they can use their minors or U21s or something? Or is it just a "they were going to lose anyway so just send out whatever 15 lads you can find" type attitude? Why should they call in lads who would be third or fourth string, when we're all supposed to be limiting contacts anyway, you're potentially starting a whole new cluster then.

And his tweet doesn't get away from the fact there is space in the calendar here to give Sligo a bit more time with this outbreak and see if they could fulfill the fixture a week later.

Best wishes to all in Sligo impacted by this I hope that all the positive cases and close contacts will be fit and healthy in a few weeks time."
Sligo are only 2 games away from an All Ireland semi final? are you having a laugh Joe dope?

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1076 - 04/11/2020 11:44:26    2305068

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "No he doesn't know and that is why in his statement and further comments he asked for the county to explain the full situation. Leitrim forfeited a league game against Down due to Covid and the chairman said in an interview afterwards they had available players to play but the team voted against playing because some had work and others didnt want to go. They were well within their right not to play if they didnt want too but simple fact was Leitrim could have played if they wanted. Roscommon and Fermanagh did play in similar situations and it remains to be seen if Sligo could have also"
Why should they explain?? For the benefit of who?? O sé so he can pontificate about it? We all know you think your county was great to fulfil that fixture. No need to keep mentioning it. They're a credit. We get that. But some counties put health, mental health included above gaa and rightly so. O se should not have said what he did and he should stop
Looking for attention. It's pathetic.

foneyforme (Leitrim) - Posts: 143 - 04/11/2020 11:46:39    2305069

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Sligo are only 2 games away from an All Ireland semi final? are you having a laugh Joe dope?"
Howaya Niall, I dunno if you understand this years championship however, Sligo would have been playing in the Connacht semi-final. Had they won that, they are in the Connacht final. Had they won that, they are in the All-Ireland semi-final.

That is two games. Happy to help with any maths questions in future.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1125 - 04/11/2020 11:49:20    2305070

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "No he doesn't know and that is why in his statement and further comments he asked for the county to explain the full situation. Leitrim forfeited a league game against Down due to Covid and the chairman said in an interview afterwards they had available players to play but the team voted against playing because some had work and others didnt want to go. They were well within their right not to play if they didnt want too but simple fact was Leitrim could have played if they wanted. Roscommon and Fermanagh did play in similar situations and it remains to be seen if Sligo could have also"
Why should they explain?? For the benefit of who?? O sé so he can pontificate about it? We all know you think your county was great to fulfil that fixture. No need to keep mentioning it. They're a credit. We get that. But some counties put health, mental health included above gaa and rightly so. O se should not have said what he did and he should stop
Looking for attention. It's pathetic.

foneyforme (Leitrim) - Posts: 143 - 04/11/2020 11:53:13    2305072

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "I don't know Sam, would kerry or Galway be recognised as top teams? Coz both our U20 teams lost a lot of players to Covid a few weeks back and neither were given an opportunity to postpone.

Look it's a horrible situation for Sligo to be in and that's no doubt but it could be us next or Mayo or Donegal so we all just got to hope for the best."
True KingdomBoy1; my point was the top counties have the numbers of conditioned inter county players, regular testing to ensure the whole squad aren't affected by a cluster with early identification and shielding key, better travel arrangements, more gear etc etc. Kerry and Galway U20's were affected but were still able to compete in the match; yes it maybe affected the result for one but the game was competitive. The weaker counties just don't have the numbers, finance for regular testing or the facilities, gear and travel arrangements to reduce the risk of a positive case spreading throughout the squad. When it spreads the numbers simply aren't there to fulfil a fixture in a elite competition; it's unfortunate for Sligo and I hope everyone is ok. What they didn't need was comments questioning their integrity, it was out of order in my opinion; it's much harder competing in the changing inter county world when you're from a weaker county.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 707 - 04/11/2020 11:54:03    2305073

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "You can take the man out of Leitrim but you can't take Leitrim out of the man, we welcome all asylum seekers in Donegal, we don't discriminate."
Before you preach about counties think about the effect your poaching has on them.

foneyforme (Leitrim) - Posts: 143 - 04/11/2020 11:55:14    2305074

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Replying To JoeSoap:  "Howaya Niall, I dunno if you understand this years championship however, Sligo would have been playing in the Connacht semi-final. Had they won that, they are in the Connacht final. Had they won that, they are in the All-Ireland semi-final.

That is two games. Happy to help with any maths questions in future."
Sorry I forgot I was addressing joe dope, so how likely do you think is it that Sligo would have won those 2 games?
would they have gotten within 10 points of Galway? snow balls chance in hell ring any bells with you joe dope?
forfeiting the game and avoiding another hammering is easier to do.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1076 - 04/11/2020 11:58:04    2305076

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