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Donegal Vs Tyrone

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Replying To HEREBENJI:  "Nonsense, the Tyrone man should be booked for feigning injury. If u want to see men sent off for that stick to watching soccer."
I never said I wanted him sent off ffs. But to strike or attempt to strike is red. Not yellow, which your man got.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 527 - 01/11/2020 18:21:48    2303997

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Replying To panamasam:  "It was a clip around the ear, stupid and needless but to describe as a 'strike' is a bit dramatic lily."
It was a slap to the head, neck, ear, whatever. It was a red card as per the rules. Why was he given yellow? Of course the Tyrone man made a meal of it and tried to get him sent off as is their form but he should not have given him the chance to. He got lucky.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 527 - 01/11/2020 18:24:58    2304001

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Who says Ulster football is boring an enjoyable game in terrible conditions with some very good points scored for both sides.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 718 - 01/11/2020 18:26:46    2304004

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Replying To tyroneed:  "The officiating of this match was a complete joke. Multiple Donegal frees moved forward. Tyrone found it much harder to win frees for the same things especially close to goals. At the very end Tyrone were called back from possession in the penalty area to be given a free further out the pitch. Surely a slap to the head seen by an official in the first half is a red card even if RTE don't want it to be."
Why were the frees moved forward then ?
Any idea why that might be ?

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1647 - 01/11/2020 18:27:00    2304006

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Replying To tyroneed:  "The officiating of this match was a complete joke. Multiple Donegal frees moved forward. Tyrone found it much harder to win frees for the same things especially close to goals. At the very end Tyrone were called back from possession in the penalty area to be given a free further out the pitch. Surely a slap to the head seen by an official in the first half is a red card even if RTE don't want it to be."
Why were the frees moved forward then ?
Any idea why that might be ?

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1647 - 01/11/2020 18:27:00    2304007

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Congratulations Donegal and hard luck to Tyrone, could have gone either way and with conditions as poor as they were it turned it into a lottery of which ever team made the fewest mistakes would win, unfortunately for Tyrone the 2 frees that were moved forward for dicent seemed to scupper them.

Young Darragh Canavan and Oisín Gallen are class young footballers.

Who have Donegal got next?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 11732 - 01/11/2020 18:58:54    2304020

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Replying To lilylanger:  "It was a slap to the head, neck, ear, whatever. It was a red card as per the rules. Why was he given yellow? Of course the Tyrone man made a meal of it and tried to get him sent off as is their form but he should not have given him the chance to. He got lucky."
It was a clip lily rather a strike as you described. A yellow was the most he deserved despite his needless stupidity. The real talking point is the pathetic reaction and feigning injury. Most games between these two teams would end up 9 v 10 if such rules were applied.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2458 - 01/11/2020 19:16:44    2304035

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Congratulations Donegal and hard luck to Tyrone, could have gone either way and with conditions as poor as they were it turned it into a lottery of which ever team made the fewest mistakes would win, unfortunately for Tyrone the 2 frees that were moved forward for dicent seemed to scupper them.

Young Darragh Canavan and Oisín Gallen are class young footballers.

Who have Donegal got next?"
Armagh

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4135 - 01/11/2020 19:19:09    2304036

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Replying To tyroneed:  "The officiating of this match was a complete joke. Multiple Donegal frees moved forward. Tyrone found it much harder to win frees for the same things especially close to goals. At the very end Tyrone were called back from possession in the penalty area to be given a free further out the pitch. Surely a slap to the head seen by an official in the first half is a red card even if RTE don't want it to be."
Officials didn't beat Tyrone, discipline getting frees moved in, players need to learn to keep their mouth shut.poor wides. Not an easy day for football but Donegal coped better. I know a strikes a strike and should be red but a yellow was enough after making a meal of it. Hope they go on to win it now and they have every chance.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 01/11/2020 19:23:56    2304042

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Congratulations Donegal and hard luck to Tyrone, could have gone either way and with conditions as poor as they were it turned it into a lottery of which ever team made the fewest mistakes would win, unfortunately for Tyrone the 2 frees that were moved forward for dicent seemed to scupper them.

Young Darragh Canavan and Oisín Gallen are class young footballers.

Who have Donegal got next?"
Armagh

MartinEgan (UK) - Posts: 28 - 01/11/2020 19:24:19    2304044

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A real dogged win in atrocious conditions against the old enemy. I thought our greater physicality around the middle was the difference in the end. Murphy took control at crucial times, holding on the ball and keeping things simple. Langan and Thompson had super games as well.

A special word for Hugh McFadden. He had a lot of detractors in his early days as a Donegal senior player. But he has really stepped up these past couple of years. He put in another great shift today and has blossomed into a big leader on this team.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7075 - 01/11/2020 19:35:14    2304047

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Donegal slightly the better team today in awful conditions. Some lovely scores for them off a testing surface. Heavy favourites for Ulster now and rightly so.

As for Tyrone, another year, another time I'm going to say they miss their key goal chances in the game which could've been the difference. But even after that they werent aggressive enough in trying to close the gap. Not enough bodies committed forward in a do or die stage of the game is hard to figure.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2020 - 01/11/2020 19:50:58    2304057

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Armagh"
Sound cavanman47. That should be a cracker, Armagh after being promoted as well.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 11732 - 01/11/2020 20:03:58    2304063

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Donegal going nowhere fast under Bonner. Plenty of talent there not being utilised correctly. Tyrone poor after the first 20, struggled in the forwards big time and got cleaned out in midfield when Donegal did push up on goal kicks.

joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 144 - 01/11/2020 20:06:53    2304066

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "A lot of things made the difference, poor discipline from Tyrone leading to two frees being move up were also key."
McQ lived down to his usual standards. There is no rule in Gaelic that its yellow for a slap and red for a punch. Both are red. Obviously, I didn't want to see the lad sent off for a slap, but the ref's ability to make up a brand new rule on the spot showed his bias. Thats the real significance of that minor incident - it revealed the red's bias.

He also gave you 2 soft frees when your lads just threw themselves at the ground. As I said, "well won" , and we'd do the exact same if we figured the ref would buy it, but McQ was buying nothing from us today. He also moved 2 in for little to no reason. And, when Tyrone had won an important line ball after your lad had sliced it over the line, he gave you a free for precisely nothing. The boys in the BBC studio were mystified. There was also a good claim for a penalty also when your lad touched the ball on the ground clearing the line. In a tight game, the ref always has an impact. Sure, when you get out of Ulster, I'll be of course shouting for Donegal; sure some of my best memories are of Summers in Kilcar, and big Murphy is a gent. You'll beat anything left in Ulster handy enough, but the funny thing is, though you beat us today, we'd be more competitive outside Ulster than you. Ultimately though, we'd need to pool our resources to win it.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 796 - 01/11/2020 20:19:07    2304079

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Replying To joeteor:  "Donegal going nowhere fast under Bonner. Plenty of talent there not being utilised correctly. Tyrone poor after the first 20, struggled in the forwards big time and got cleaned out in midfield when Donegal did push up on goal kicks."
Yes, being on course for 3 Ulster titles in a row is a disaster... after the wonderful Rory Gallagher years.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 895 - 01/11/2020 20:26:01    2304088

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Replying To joeteor:  "Donegal going nowhere fast under Bonner. Plenty of talent there not being utilised correctly. Tyrone poor after the first 20, struggled in the forwards big time and got cleaned out in midfield when Donegal did push up on goal kicks."
Going for 3 in a row in Ulster under Bonner the first team since Armagh......

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2458 - 01/11/2020 20:34:54    2304095

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Replying To essmac:  "McQ lived down to his usual standards. There is no rule in Gaelic that its yellow for a slap and red for a punch. Both are red. Obviously, I didn't want to see the lad sent off for a slap, but the ref's ability to make up a brand new rule on the spot showed his bias. Thats the real significance of that minor incident - it revealed the red's bias.

He also gave you 2 soft frees when your lads just threw themselves at the ground. As I said, "well won" , and we'd do the exact same if we figured the ref would buy it, but McQ was buying nothing from us today. He also moved 2 in for little to no reason. And, when Tyrone had won an important line ball after your lad had sliced it over the line, he gave you a free for precisely nothing. The boys in the BBC studio were mystified. There was also a good claim for a penalty also when your lad touched the ball on the ground clearing the line. In a tight game, the ref always has an impact. Sure, when you get out of Ulster, I'll be of course shouting for Donegal; sure some of my best memories are of Summers in Kilcar, and big Murphy is a gent. You'll beat anything left in Ulster handy enough, but the funny thing is, though you beat us today, we'd be more competitive outside Ulster than you. Ultimately though, we'd need to pool our resources to win it."
Some fair points there, but assuming the ref has a bias.. That's an unsubstantiated claim. Is there something you know about to back that up, does he ref A versus B games for Donegal at training?!

Not taking account of the fact we dominated possession and a fluke of a goal kept you in it.

Tyrone would do better outside of Ulster; not so sure on that either. Had a handier super 8 group last year than we did, didn't make the final. No Sam since 2008. I think Harte needs to step aside. It feels like the Wenger years at Arsenal but even he stepped aside in the end.

I feel our young lads are ready to step up now but it's one game at a time.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 895 - 01/11/2020 20:36:43    2304097

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Replying To MartinEgan:  "Armagh"
Sound Martin.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 11732 - 01/11/2020 20:42:17    2304101

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Replying To catch22:  "Why were the frees moved forward then ?
Any idea why that might be ?"
Good question. I don't know why the free that put Donegal ahead was moved forward. Do you know which player did what?

tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 700 - 01/11/2020 21:01:25    2304115

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