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RIP Jack Charlton

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Nostalgia is a powerful thing.
I was the same when I heard the news, so many great memories came flooding back. I remember some qualifying matches being played midweek during the day. Our whole school crammed into one room watching the game on the telly. We really did think Ireland were the greatest football team.

The tournaments themselves were absolute footnotes in my lifetime. Such huge occasions for the country. As much as I love GAA, I don't think any other sport, or any other event for that matter, grips the country quite like the Irish soccer team reaching a major tournament and performing well. My father isn't into sport all that much, so my memories of following Big Jack's teams are all from watching at home. But it is a definite aim of mine to one day take my son to a tournament that Ireland have qualified for.

Jack inadvertently gave the country a huge shot in the arm after the doldrums of the 80s. He is rightly acknowledged and respected as a hugely positive influence on the country, and not just from the obvious sporting perspective. I never met the man but I'll definitely miss him. Go raibh míle maith agat Jack. Sleep well big man."
Nostalgia ain't what it used to be wha!

Watched the 'Boys in Green' documentary the other night, I had missed it the first time, really enjoyable and well made. Brought back a lot of great memories, also some terrible ones from the night in Lansdowne with the English.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13145 - 14/07/2020 11:30:13    2284021

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I actually shed a tear when I heard on Saturday morning that the Great Man had departed us, and bar Ireland getting to an actual World Cup Final, it's highly unlikely that we will ever see the hysteria again that followed the Irish Football Team between 1988 and 1995. Yes they were much simpler times back then, but they were also amazing times for football in this country, and I for one will never forget the joys that Euro 88 and the World Cups in 90 and 94 brought to our nation. Big Jack left an indelible legacy in this country, and when one considers that he took over amid an era in which the Troubles cast a dark shadow over the nation, it was a remarkable testament to the power of sport that it was an Englishman who brought millions of Irish people together like never before. R.I.P Big Jack.

gilly1910 (Galway) - Posts: 102 - 14/07/2020 11:52:43    2284023

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Jaysus when you look back Jack was blessed with the talent that he had on the Irish team. Here is my favourite players that played under Jack at some stage or another.

1. Packie Bonner
2. Dennis Irwin
3. David O Leary
4. Paul Mc Grath
5. Steve Staunton
6. Roy Keane
7. Ray Houghton
8. Ronnie Whelan
9. Niall Quinn
10. Frank Stapleton
11. Liam Brady

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 221 - 16/07/2020 22:19:31    2284269

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Put 'em under pressure is going to be played on all Irish radio stations at 12:30 in honour of Jack Charlton.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 718 - 21/07/2020 09:42:23    2284706

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Not sure why or if even relevant but the fact this got 5x as much coverage as john hume on the board makes me think.

Canuckgael (USA) - Posts: 25 - 06/08/2020 16:16:56    2286630

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Not sure why or if even relevant but the fact this got 5x as much coverage as john hume on the board makes me think.

Canuckgael (USA) - Posts: 16 - 06/08/2020 16:16:56
think what?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 1636 - 06/08/2020 16:36:22    2286634

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Replying To Canuckgael:  "Not sure why or if even relevant but the fact this got 5x as much coverage as john hume on the board makes me think."
I assume because this is a sports forum and they rarely allow anything non GAA related up? I only came here after the An Fear Rua forum shut down.
On there, posters could post topics on everything from movies to politics, but here that's not the case.
I've seen there's an other sports forum which has a non sport superthread up I've never really been on it but maybe there's been comments there.

I don't think anyone who knows they're Irish history could ever try and underplay John Hume's immense contribution to this islands modern history.

Someone said he is to Ireland's 20th C what O'Connell and Parnell were to the 19th. Hard to argue with that.

But I suppose sport always stirs the passions more and for many of us Jack was part of our childhood in a way John wasn't. Given that, maybe you can forgive people not expressing the same emotions on a forum like this.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 5828 - 06/08/2020 16:36:29    2286635

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Replying To Canuckgael:  "Not sure why or if even relevant but the fact this got 5x as much coverage as john hume on the board makes me think."
I don't think it unusual at all, I wouldn't think there is one person on here that would even think its worth comparing what John Hume did for his country versus what Charlton did for Ireland. However its a sports forum and there is a debate around the impact of the tidal wave of what Jack did on the GAA and even there is a debate around if Jack was as good as people made out as he had the best players perhaps Ireland ever produced.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 982 - 06/08/2020 17:19:14    2286642

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John Hume wasnt a sports person?

Canuckgael (USA) - Posts: 25 - 06/08/2020 17:59:33    2286650

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Replying To TheHermit:  "I assume because this is a sports forum and they rarely allow anything non GAA related up? I only came here after the An Fear Rua forum shut down.
On there, posters could post topics on everything from movies to politics, but here that's not the case.
I've seen there's an other sports forum which has a non sport superthread up I've never really been on it but maybe there's been comments there.

I don't think anyone who knows they're Irish history could ever try and underplay John Hume's immense contribution to this islands modern history.

Someone said he is to Ireland's 20th C what O'Connell and Parnell were to the 19th. Hard to argue with that.

But I suppose sport always stirs the passions more and for many of us Jack was part of our childhood in a way John wasn't. Given that, maybe you can forgive people not expressing the same emotions on a forum like this."
You can post on the non sports super thread if you wish. Posters on there comment on all manner of things.
Surprised you didn't know about it.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1647 - 06/08/2020 18:44:14    2286657

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This in in the main a GAA forum with other issues discussed. Discussing John Hume has relevance and one could state with a high degree of confidence that he had a significantly greater impact on the GAA than big Jack and especially in Ulster. The peace process that he was involved made travel much safer especially in the northern most parts of our country and saved many lives, including GAA players/families.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2189 - 06/08/2020 19:43:54    2286665

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Replying To Canuckgael:  "Not sure why or if even relevant but the fact this got 5x as much coverage as john hume on the board makes me think."
The amount of comments on Jack Charlton were spread over 10 days (before your comment today).

The comments on John Hume only started yesterday. Come back in 8 days, and then compare them.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 1115 - 06/08/2020 21:05:53    2286672

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Replying To Canuckgael:  "John Hume wasnt a sports person?"
His main contribution to Ireland surpassed sports and while someone pointed out in a later post because of what he did playing GAA in NI became safer, this was a dividend of the work that he did to bring equality and peace to NI. Charlton everyone remembers specifically in relation to soccer.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 982 - 07/08/2020 03:11:05    2286695

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I read elsewhere that Hume did have a great impact on the GAA in Ulster, if it wasn't for him and the peace process would there still be check points and would GAA clubs players and supporters be harassed whist travelling to and from games.

Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 1990 - 07/08/2020 10:49:06    2286713

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Replying To Canuckgael:  "Not sure why or if even relevant but the fact this got 5x as much coverage as john hume on the board makes me think."
Hume never got us to the world cup

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1106 - 07/08/2020 11:14:43    2286722

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Rip

Pintsandpoints (Meath) - Posts: 10 - 07/08/2020 11:38:13    2286729

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In fairness the Irish radio stations should have played "the town I loved so well" simultaneously on John Hume's funeral day to honour him.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 718 - 07/08/2020 12:57:43    2286746

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Replying To Breezy:  "Hume never got us to the world cup"
More people wouldn't even be enjoying World Cups if it weren't for Hume.

Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 572 - 07/08/2020 18:33:40    2286789

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Replying To Tacaí Liatroma:  "More people wouldn't even be enjoying World Cups if it weren't for Hume."
I always thought it was Jules Rimet we had to thank for the World Cup.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 1115 - 07/08/2020 21:28:24    2286803

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Replying To zinny:  "His main contribution to Ireland surpassed sports and while someone pointed out in a later post because of what he did playing GAA in NI became safer, this was a dividend of the work that he did to bring equality and peace to NI. Charlton everyone remembers specifically in relation to soccer."
only 4 days so far.....6 to go

Canuckgael (USA) - Posts: 25 - 10/08/2020 04:23:11    2287055

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