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Two big questions aren't being answered here. lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 369 - 17/05/2020 10:24:37 2278443 Link 1 |
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It doesnt have to fit 150m x 100m as minimum pitch size is 130m x 80m. A professional sport allows better standards for players. Rest, recovery all happen more so players can do more and improve more. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 1636 - 17/05/2020 10:48:57 2278446 Link 1 |
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Them questions were touched on in earlier posts. 1. It may or may not be better. In fact at first it would be worse until everyone and everything got settled and get all the kinks out. And whether better or worse it's all preference. Some would say it's better while some would say it's not. 2. The games would be played in GAA and other stadiums/grounds that would be rented off of the controlling entity. I said in an earlier post that Galway don't play in Pierce Stadium very often so instead of it being empty the GAA gets rent for it. Many other Grounds are in the same boat. The Professionals and the GAA could coexist if done right.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 1082 - 17/05/2020 11:43:38 2278452 Link 0 |
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Where are the umpires going to stand ? And the bench staff ? Are the sidelines going to run into the stand boundary walls? You need a bigger space than the actual playing area. And even at 130 x 80, where is big enough ? lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 369 - 17/05/2020 11:48:01 2278453 Link 1 |
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You could surely make one pretty good team there especially if the lads were getting paid and training full time with no worry of jobs. The stands might take a while to fill but that's what promotions are for. Give free tickets to children under 14 to get the young interested. The parents would have to attend too and slowly but surely it could take off. Not easy and not overnight though.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 1082 - 17/05/2020 11:49:12 2278454 Link 0 |
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It's nice to dream, so it is. No worry of jobs ? What if a player comes along who's better than you ? lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 369 - 17/05/2020 12:26:44 2278456 Link 1 |
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If you get replaced by a better player in the current GAA you get nothing. In professional sports you can get replaced BUT you have a contract. Still get paid. As for dreaming almost everything starts with a dream or thoughts. Many fail and some don't. What a dreamer Michael Cusack was...
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 1082 - 17/05/2020 13:01:07 2278458 Link 1 |
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The gaa probably missed a chance with this corona virus while all sports were cancelled in the UK And around Europe people all over Europe would have been mad for any kind of sport even ours, with most games live on sky it could have opened our sports up to a new audience.. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 11732 - 17/05/2020 13:05:40 2278460 Link 2 |
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I thought the quealstion was could a profesional sport survive ? Only with the backing of the Gaa could it survive ! It could probably do well . More commercial income ,expanded compitions and the optionon renting ground to Munster leinster connacht rugby . It all depends on the question being asked is it financial viable with the the gaa's backing ,well that's yes . Outside the control of the gaa it has no chance jfk21 (Dublin) - Posts: 51 - 17/05/2020 13:17:47 2278464 Link 1 |
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Why do people presume nobody would follow a successful London team ? Not many people followed waterford hurling when they were in divisin 3 hurling playing Mayo . If london were beting Mayo in football or tipp in hurling people will follow them ,, I have 4 gaa supporting uncle and lot of cousins that have never being to a a london game ( maybe one game),yet fly home to game in ireland all the time ! If london were playing great regular football of course they would go to games jfk21 (Dublin) - Posts: 51 - 17/05/2020 13:27:30 2278466 Link 1 |
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Contract for how long ? Who pays your mortgage ? What player with a decent day-job will leave it for a risky career in a professional sport with no real prospect of success ? What grounds do you have in mind ? I'm still not convinced that a bit longer training a week will make the game better as a spectacle. lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 369 - 17/05/2020 13:33:12 2278467 Link 1 |
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Would London be successful ? Is financial success dependent on success on the field ? If London are successful, someone else won't be. How will the team at the bottom of the table fare financially - be that in England or Ireland ? It's very difficult to plant an unfamiliar game in foreign territory and expect crowds to flock there. Still, four uncles and a few cousins is a start. Although I wouldn't want to be puttng my money into it. Have your uncles any suggestions for a ground ? lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 369 - 17/05/2020 13:43:34 2278469 Link 1 |
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Theres lots of Irish in London but you have to minus: The ones who dont like sport or GAA The ones who like it but think its only about a game or 2 in the summer and dont even know theres a league The ones that love it but dont see London as their team and will pick the Limerick match in a London pub over a live game featuring London in Ruislip. And given the often transient nature of immigration you would have to work on constantly renewing your fanbase which wouldnt be easy as most would have already grown up with another team At best as a pro team they would be like Fulham in the soccer and make up the gate receipts with away fans who live in London Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1106 - 17/05/2020 13:46:21 2278470 Link 1 |
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You can't compare Waterford to London. Hurling was an established sport in Waterford with a long history. The Irish community in London gets smaller by the year. The sports market is saturated. London GAA doesn't have the facilities to support a professional team.
Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 193 - 17/05/2020 14:03:10 2278475 Link 1 |
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Rugby grounds. Plenty big enough. Sidelines wouldnt run into stand walls. Have large tech zones for coaches.
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 1636 - 17/05/2020 14:07:10 2278478 Link 1 |
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Because there is little no evidence they would. Most people in UK will follow their own county/county of their parents/grandparents
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 1636 - 17/05/2020 14:24:42 2278482 Link 1 |
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I don't agree. But, as it won't happen, not a problem. What happened with those games at Wembley ? Were they on a cut down pitch ? Did they still play 15 a side ? lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 369 - 17/05/2020 15:05:19 2278487 Link 1 |
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Wembley had loads of space at each end behind the goals so maybe they extended the pitch
Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1106 - 17/05/2020 15:21:21 2278492 Link 1 |
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Right maybe maybe London is a bad example , my point being everbody loves a bandwagon to jump on ! Wexford tipp and limerick get huge crows from populations of 150k to 200k ... in a profesional league people will not followd a winning hurling team in down or antrim with the large populations . Perth got its second pro team in only 1994 , population at the time was 1 million and no aussie rules history ( victoria state sport) , The afl is the best comparison with the gaa ,. ! If you put a winning cricked team in dublin that was allowed compet in england England people will follow it . Everybody want to think of reason why professional gaa is not possible because they oppose it ! Thats not realy an argument for me its just I ove my county syndrome . Im not in favour of a profesional gaa and maybe I am wrong but i think its inevitable . Players are over trained as it and more expenses are a slippery slope . Best to restrict coulty training to one night a week and cut the large panel and backroom staff to stem the slide toward profesional sport .
jfk21 (Dublin) - Posts: 51 - 17/05/2020 15:24:57 2278493 Link 3 |
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It did - but it wasn't grassy. I've only seen grainy pictures on YouTube. lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 369 - 17/05/2020 15:30:44 2278494 Link 1 |