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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "That's true Ollie, they don't make them like that any more."
True enough Kingdomboy. I love Red is the Rose. The Wee County's unofficial county anthem.

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 221 - 19/05/2020 11:12:32    2278680

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A question rather than trivia:

Can anyone tell me why jersies in early 90s used to have a 'guaranteed Irish' symbol rather than have O'Neills written on them?

Morty (Westmeath) - Posts: 171 - 19/05/2020 17:26:04    2278722

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Replying To Morty:  "A question rather than trivia:

Can anyone tell me why jersies in early 90s used to have a 'guaranteed Irish' symbol rather than have O'Neills written on them?"
Good question. Has it anything to do with Adidas not being happy that O'Neill's had 3 stripes on their gear, or just a promotion campaign for Guaranteed Irish?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5955 - 19/05/2020 18:54:11    2278731

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Replying To Ollie2:  "True enough Kingdomboy. I love Red is the Rose. The Wee County's unofficial county anthem."
That's a good song as well Ollie. We love our roses down here too :-)

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 11732 - 20/05/2020 09:38:12    2278770

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If you look on the label of Villa shirts, the address of Rue Bobby Sands is written on them, where they are produced. Go on, give me a red thumb I dare ye!

MairtinTomSean (Galway) - Posts: 41 - 20/05/2020 10:36:18    2278781

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "That's a good song as well Ollie. We love our roses down here too :-)"
It does mention the lyrics it was down by Killarney's green woods in Red is the Rose.

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 221 - 20/05/2020 11:17:01    2278786

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Replying To MairtinTomSean:  "If you look on the label of Villa shirts, the address of Rue Bobby Sands is written on them, where they are produced. Go on, give me a red thumb I dare ye!"
Is that true ?

It's still a good story, even if it isn't, but I'm not going to be buying a Villa shirt to find out for myself.

lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 369 - 20/05/2020 11:39:41    2278793

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Replying To lionofludesch:  "Is that true ?

It's still a good story, even if it isn't, but I'm not going to be buying a Villa shirt to find out for myself."
https://mobile.twitter.com/AtownColm/status/1258061654727757824
I wouldn't lie

MairtinTomSean (Galway) - Posts: 41 - 21/05/2020 10:07:59    2278900

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Replying To MairtinTomSean:  "https://mobile.twitter.com/AtownColm/status/1258061654727757824
I wouldn't lie"
Great stuff.

Made my day.

lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 369 - 21/05/2020 15:53:01    2278921

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There is a great picture of Tom Barry's wedding photo with guest's such as Michael Collins, Eamon De Valera, Harry Bolland, Emmet Dalton and Countess Markieviez in the photo. Michael Collins head is lowered in it as he suspects the photographer was an informer. The date that this was taking was on the 22nd of August 1921. What is so significant about this date that exactly a year later to the day, Michael Collins was assassinated at Beal na Blath.

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 221 - 01/06/2020 19:04:49    2279676

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http://www.advertiser.ie/Galway/article/8405/a-forgotten-night-at-galway-docks

The link refers to an interesting and rarely mentioned tale regarding the departure of most of the Blueshirts from Galway to Spain aboard a German ship in 1936. Amongst them were 3 Galway men ( bystanders) who got swept along by the excitement and Departed to Spain along with the rest.
As well as this article the incident appears in several books I believe

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 883 - 01/06/2020 21:10:16    2279683

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Good question. Has it anything to do with Adidas not being happy that O'Neill's had 3 stripes on their gear, or just a promotion campaign for Guaranteed Irish?"
I've done a bit of digging. It turns out Adidas were so unhappy they brought a copyright case against O'Neills in the 80s but ended up losing in the High Court. This meant O'Neill's (or anyone) could produce clothes with the 3 stripes in the Irish State. Still can't find anything about the Guaranteed Irish symbol though!

Morty (Westmeath) - Posts: 171 - 15/06/2020 10:56:06    2280878

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Replying To Morty:  "I've done a bit of digging. It turns out Adidas were so unhappy they brought a copyright case against O'Neills in the 80s but ended up losing in the High Court. This meant O'Neill's (or anyone) could produce clothes with the 3 stripes in the Irish State. Still can't find anything about the Guaranteed Irish symbol though!"
I think if you buy O'Neill's outside of Ireland, they'll only have 2 stripes, they can only sell 3 stripes in Ireland. If anyone living abroad could verify that please?!

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 366 - 15/06/2020 17:57:40    2280945

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Replying To extranjero:  "I think if you buy O'Neill's outside of Ireland, they'll only have 2 stripes, they can only sell 3 stripes in Ireland. If anyone living abroad could verify that please?!"
Looking at the O'Neills UK site all the Irish county gear is 3 as normal but the UK based clubs all have 2 striped kits

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1106 - 16/06/2020 14:54:58    2281043

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Replying To Morty:  "I've done a bit of digging. It turns out Adidas were so unhappy they brought a copyright case against O'Neills in the 80s but ended up losing in the High Court. This meant O'Neill's (or anyone) could produce clothes with the 3 stripes in the Irish State. Still can't find anything about the Guaranteed Irish symbol though!"
It's nice that, when these multinationals get a little bit too full of their own self importance, the Courts cvan bring them back down to earth.

There was a case in Scotland a few months ago, where McDonalds complained about a woman calling her village shop "McDonalds", on the grounds that she was Mrs McDonald. That got thrown out.

And then there was the NZRFU complaining about an amateur rugby club in York calling themselves "New Earswick All Blacks". Laughed out of court. As it should be.

lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 369 - 24/06/2020 11:14:14    2281710

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Question about Inter Provincial Footballers. Does anyone know any footballers who played for Ulster and Leinster apart from J.P.O'Kane who played for Antrim then Louth during the 1980s. Thanks

Micko2020 (Derry) - Posts: 1 - 25/06/2020 21:08:55    2281842

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The world's first monorail was built to travel between Ballybunnion and Listowel.


Seriously.

Morty (Westmeath) - Posts: 171 - 26/06/2020 10:47:59    2281860

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Replying To Young_gael:  "
Replying To GreenandRed:  "Irish ties and appreciation of British sports and British society are one of the many peculiarities and oddities when our nationalism is taken into account;

Why are they peculiarities and oddities?"
They are peculiarities and oddities, in my view, as in spite of the nationalist slant of a great many in our society; the fierce protectionism of our history and in particular our pride in revolutionist history, that we all enjoy watching English sports, for example Rugby, Cricket, and of course the ubiquitous soccer. Many wear the sports gear of English sporting clubs, many spend time in their lives living and working in Britain, many people watch soap operas depicting typical life in the English cities or countryside, many of us also seem to have an interest in British royalty ( I certainly do not), the sense of humour is similar. The list could go on and on but the crux of my point is that although we are different and aspire to be different in political/national terms and of course we ARE different, we (Ireland) are tied at the hip with their culture and their place in the world and always have been, so it is very peculiar and odd given the huge resentment in purely human terms that is often found on a street's corner.

I want to stress that for the benefit of some people on this forum that I am not putting across a message in support of, or encouraging any kind of particular view toward our country or our neighbours. Im just pointing out a strange element of being Irish."
Great post Young_Gael, you have pretty much managed to convey in a few lines the unique and very complex relationship that we have with our near neighbours. There are parts of British culture that I find quite strange, but yet as you say I personally love their sports, their television, their comedy, music etc. However we still cling to the 800-years-of- oppression idea? Can we ever bring ourselves to cheer for England on the sporting field? Has the vote for Brexit turned all of the great work over the last 25 years on it's head, and a new resentment of our neighbours is beginning to rear its head again. Strange times indeed, and it looks like the complex relationship that we have with the UK will continue to run on inexorably.

gilly1910 (Galway) - Posts: 102 - 26/06/2020 11:16:56    2281863

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Replying To Micko2020:  "Question about Inter Provincial Footballers. Does anyone know any footballers who played for Ulster and Leinster apart from J.P.O'Kane who played for Antrim then Louth during the 1980s. Thanks"
Stefan White played with Louth and Monaghan. I don't know weather he played any Provincial football.

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 221 - 27/06/2020 15:13:59    2282025

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The Dubs have never won the All Ireland Championship when the year ended in a 0. They have only been in one Ireland final that ended in 0 and that was in 1920 when Tipp beat them in the final. They have only one Leinster title that ended in 0 and that was in 1920. So there is hope after all. Munster counties dominate by far by winning All Ireland's in the year ended in 0. Kerry won 5, Cork won 3 and Tipp won 2. Louth, Mayo and Down are the other counties that won it in a year that ended in a 0.

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 221 - 08/07/2020 22:57:24    2283546

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