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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "
Replying To MesAmis:  "That munster semifinal replay in 2010 was an excellent game between the current allireland champions and the allireland champions to be and you say that would be of no interest to anyone?

There were great battles in munster up to 2012 and even 2015 was enthralling.

I watched meath and kildare the last day and I'd have no interest in leinster football. But I enjoyed it.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 10670 - 06/05/2020 07:55:06 2277606


It was of no more interest to anyone outside of Kerry/West Cork as your average league game.

There was nothing riding on it, no one gets knocked out of the Championship if they lose.

An entertaining game, I've no doubt, when Cork are good they often are entertaining in the same way that league games are entertaining. But no one outside of Kerry/West Cork really remembers those games anymore coz they just don't matter in the way they used to.

Hopefully they'll show the Kerry/Armagh game from 06 for you, or maybe the Kerry/Dubs game from 07, they were both, if not classics, very enjoyable encounters but a Kerry/Cork game from Munster is of little interest to anyone else."
All right so the criteria for a game worth watching is it has to be knockout, no backdoor?"
There's a difference between a game worth watching and a game worth remembering.

Any game of ball is worth watching at the time.

Kerry v Cork in the Munster Championship is worth watching at the time, but hardly unmissable, you'll get to see it again next year, and the year after, and the year after that...... often if Cork are any use you'll get to see it later that year.

It's similar to a League match in how it feels. Very different from when it was genuinely a big fixture over 20 years ago.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13145 - 06/05/2020 12:30:15    2277626

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Replying To MesAmis:  "
Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "[quote=MesAmis:  "That munster semifinal replay in 2010 was an excellent game between the current allireland champions and the allireland champions to be and you say that would be of no interest to anyone?

There were great battles in munster up to 2012 and even 2015 was enthralling.

I watched meath and kildare the last day and I'd have no interest in leinster football. But I enjoyed it.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 10670 - 06/05/2020 07:55:06 2277606


It was of no more interest to anyone outside of Kerry/West Cork as your average league game.

There was nothing riding on it, no one gets knocked out of the Championship if they lose.

An entertaining game, I've no doubt, when Cork are good they often are entertaining in the same way that league games are entertaining. But no one outside of Kerry/West Cork really remembers those games anymore coz they just don't matter in the way they used to.

Hopefully they'll show the Kerry/Armagh game from 06 for you, or maybe the Kerry/Dubs game from 07, they were both, if not classics, very enjoyable encounters but a Kerry/Cork game from Munster is of little interest to anyone else."
All right so the criteria for a game worth watching is it has to be knockout, no backdoor?"
There's a difference between a game worth watching and a game worth remembering.

Any game of ball is worth watching at the time.

Kerry v Cork in the Munster Championship is worth watching at the time, but hardly unmissable, you'll get to see it again next year, and the year after, and the year after that...... often if Cork are any use you'll get to see it later that year.

It's similar to a League match in how it feels. Very different from when it was genuinely a big fixture over 20 years ago."]Mes I think a great game is a great game weather its knockout or backdoor, Thea rivalry between ourselves and Cork in 00s and years prior was intense, even McGrath Cup games were hard fought.

And who wouldn't want to see O'Leary marking Galvin Lynch marking Gooch and Canty marking Donaghy? Great battles.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 11732 - 06/05/2020 14:30:42    2277634

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "
Replying To MesAmis:  "[quote=KingdomBoy1:  "[quote=MesAmis:  "That munster semifinal replay in 2010 was an excellent game between the current allireland champions and the allireland champions to be and you say that would be of no interest to anyone?

There were great battles in munster up to 2012 and even 2015 was enthralling.

I watched meath and kildare the last day and I'd have no interest in leinster football. But I enjoyed it.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 10670 - 06/05/2020 07:55:06 2277606


It was of no more interest to anyone outside of Kerry/West Cork as your average league game.

There was nothing riding on it, no one gets knocked out of the Championship if they lose.

An entertaining game, I've no doubt, when Cork are good they often are entertaining in the same way that league games are entertaining. But no one outside of Kerry/West Cork really remembers those games anymore coz they just don't matter in the way they used to.

Hopefully they'll show the Kerry/Armagh game from 06 for you, or maybe the Kerry/Dubs game from 07, they were both, if not classics, very enjoyable encounters but a Kerry/Cork game from Munster is of little interest to anyone else."
All right so the criteria for a game worth watching is it has to be knockout, no backdoor?"
There's a difference between a game worth watching and a game worth remembering.

Any game of ball is worth watching at the time.

Kerry v Cork in the Munster Championship is worth watching at the time, but hardly unmissable, you'll get to see it again next year, and the year after, and the year after that...... often if Cork are any use you'll get to see it later that year.

It's similar to a League match in how it feels. Very different from when it was genuinely a big fixture over 20 years ago."]Mes I think a great game is a great game weather its knockout or backdoor, Thea rivalry between ourselves and Cork in 00s and years prior was intense, even McGrath Cup games were hard fought.

And who wouldn't want to see O'Leary marking Galvin Lynch marking Gooch and Canty marking Donaghy? Great battles."]A good game is a good game indeed but to be truly great it has to be important.

I've been to many good league and early championship games but they just don't linger in the memory. Kerry v Cork in the Munster Championship just isn't all that important anymore, it's like them playing in the league, we'll watch but no one really cares all that much who wins, it's all about later on down the line. If either team wins the All-Ireland but has lost in Munster they don't care. Or if Cork were to beat Kerry in Munster but lose to them later on, which defo happened during the 00s but we'd have to look it up to remember when though, they wouldn't care about the meaningless provincial game earlier in the year.

The same goes for all the old big provincial games, but doubly so for Kerry/Cork coz they essentially play every year, unless Cork are terrible at the time.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13145 - 06/05/2020 18:01:55    2277647

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Replying To MesAmis:  "
Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "[quote=MesAmis:  "[quote=KingdomBoy1:  "[quote=MesAmis:  "That munster semifinal replay in 2010 was an excellent game between the current allireland champions and the allireland champions to be and you say that would be of no interest to anyone?

There were great battles in munster up to 2012 and even 2015 was enthralling.

I watched meath and kildare the last day and I'd have no interest in leinster football. But I enjoyed it.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 10670 - 06/05/2020 07:55:06 2277606


It was of no more interest to anyone outside of Kerry/West Cork as your average league game.

There was nothing riding on it, no one gets knocked out of the Championship if they lose.

An entertaining game, I've no doubt, when Cork are good they often are entertaining in the same way that league games are entertaining. But no one outside of Kerry/West Cork really remembers those games anymore coz they just don't matter in the way they used to.

Hopefully they'll show the Kerry/Armagh game from 06 for you, or maybe the Kerry/Dubs game from 07, they were both, if not classics, very enjoyable encounters but a Kerry/Cork game from Munster is of little interest to anyone else."
All right so the criteria for a game worth watching is it has to be knockout, no backdoor?"
There's a difference between a game worth watching and a game worth remembering.

Any game of ball is worth watching at the time.

Kerry v Cork in the Munster Championship is worth watching at the time, but hardly unmissable, you'll get to see it again next year, and the year after, and the year after that...... often if Cork are any use you'll get to see it later that year.

It's similar to a League match in how it feels. Very different from when it was genuinely a big fixture over 20 years ago."]Mes I think a great game is a great game weather its knockout or backdoor, Thea rivalry between ourselves and Cork in 00s and years prior was intense, even McGrath Cup games were hard fought.

And who wouldn't want to see O'Leary marking Galvin Lynch marking Gooch and Canty marking Donaghy? Great battles."]A good game is a good game indeed but to be truly great it has to be important.

I've been to many good league and early championship games but they just don't linger in the memory. Kerry v Cork in the Munster Championship just isn't all that important anymore, it's like them playing in the league, we'll watch but no one really cares all that much who wins, it's all about later on down the line. If either team wins the All-Ireland but has lost in Munster they don't care. Or if Cork were to beat Kerry in Munster but lose to them later on, which defo happened during the 00s but we'd have to look it up to remember when though, they wouldn't care about the meaningless provincial game earlier in the year.

The same goes for all the old big provincial games, but doubly so for Kerry/Cork coz they essentially play every year, unless Cork are terrible at the time."]Do you feel the same about the ulster championship or is it just munster? Tyrone and Donegal had serious battles a few years back I remember them I remember watching Roscommon beating mayo in last years Connacht championship and it was a great game for the neutral and there was pages and pages written about it on here afterwards.

Saying that I can't remember any good leinster games in the last 10 years but then again that championship was pronounced dead years ago.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 11732 - 06/05/2020 18:18:15    2277649

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Lads, stop , stop will ye. One county ( Clare 1992 ) has won the Munster Championship in the last 85 years outsider of Cork and Kerry.
Now by any standards that's a pure joke like and the most one sided province in the country.
And everyone knows damn well that the years that Kerry with 81 titles, that's right 81 titles didn't win it they were blaggarded out of it. The referee was out to do them sure. That's the unwritten rule lads. Kerry don't lose games they are hoodwinked out of them and don't be thinking otherwise.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1647 - 06/05/2020 19:11:22    2277654

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "
Replying To MesAmis:  "[quote=KingdomBoy1:  "[quote=MesAmis:  "[quote=KingdomBoy1:  "[quote=MesAmis:  "That munster semifinal replay in 2010 was an excellent game between the current allireland champions and the allireland champions to be and you say that would be of no interest to anyone?

There were great battles in munster up to 2012 and even 2015 was enthralling.

I watched meath and kildare the last day and I'd have no interest in leinster football. But I enjoyed it.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 10670 - 06/05/2020 07:55:06 2277606


It was of no more interest to anyone outside of Kerry/West Cork as your average league game.

There was nothing riding on it, no one gets knocked out of the Championship if they lose.

An entertaining game, I've no doubt, when Cork are good they often are entertaining in the same way that league games are entertaining. But no one outside of Kerry/West Cork really remembers those games anymore coz they just don't matter in the way they used to.

Hopefully they'll show the Kerry/Armagh game from 06 for you, or maybe the Kerry/Dubs game from 07, they were both, if not classics, very enjoyable encounters but a Kerry/Cork game from Munster is of little interest to anyone else."
All right so the criteria for a game worth watching is it has to be knockout, no backdoor?"
There's a difference between a game worth watching and a game worth remembering.

Any game of ball is worth watching at the time.

Kerry v Cork in the Munster Championship is worth watching at the time, but hardly unmissable, you'll get to see it again next year, and the year after, and the year after that...... often if Cork are any use you'll get to see it later that year.

It's similar to a League match in how it feels. Very different from when it was genuinely a big fixture over 20 years ago."]Mes I think a great game is a great game weather its knockout or backdoor, Thea rivalry between ourselves and Cork in 00s and years prior was intense, even McGrath Cup games were hard fought.

And who wouldn't want to see O'Leary marking Galvin Lynch marking Gooch and Canty marking Donaghy? Great battles."]A good game is a good game indeed but to be truly great it has to be important.

I've been to many good league and early championship games but they just don't linger in the memory. Kerry v Cork in the Munster Championship just isn't all that important anymore, it's like them playing in the league, we'll watch but no one really cares all that much who wins, it's all about later on down the line. If either team wins the All-Ireland but has lost in Munster they don't care. Or if Cork were to beat Kerry in Munster but lose to them later on, which defo happened during the 00s but we'd have to look it up to remember when though, they wouldn't care about the meaningless provincial game earlier in the year.

The same goes for all the old big provincial games, but doubly so for Kerry/Cork coz they essentially play every year, unless Cork are terrible at the time."]Do you feel the same about the ulster championship or is it just munster? Tyrone and Donegal had serious battles a few years back I remember them I remember watching Roscommon beating mayo in last years Connacht championship and it was a great game for the neutral and there was pages and pages written about it on here afterwards.

Saying that I can't remember any good leinster games in the last 10 years but then again that championship was pronounced dead years ago."]Yeah there are good provincial games but none of them matter all that much though.

Leinster has been poor for the last 15 years. Munster has been fairly predictable for the last 100 years. Kerry win more than half and then Cork win the rest. It was the first of the provincial to be pronounced dead, Leinster has followed where Munster led.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13145 - 06/05/2020 20:22:58    2277667

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Replying To MesAmis:  "
Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "[quote=MesAmis:  "[quote=KingdomBoy1:  "[quote=MesAmis:  "That munster semifinal replay in 2010 was an excellent game between the current allireland champions and the allireland champions to be and you say that would be of no interest to anyone?

There were great battles in munster up to 2012 and even 2015 was enthralling.

I watched meath and kildare the last day and I'd have no interest in leinster football. But I enjoyed it.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 10670 - 06/05/2020 07:55:06 2277606


It was of no more interest to anyone outside of Kerry/West Cork as your average league game.

There was nothing riding on it, no one gets knocked out of the Championship if they lose.

An entertaining game, I've no doubt, when Cork are good they often are entertaining in the same way that league games are entertaining. But no one outside of Kerry/West Cork really remembers those games anymore coz they just don't matter in the way they used to.

Hopefully they'll show the Kerry/Armagh game from 06 for you, or maybe the Kerry/Dubs game from 07, they were both, if not classics, very enjoyable encounters but a Kerry/Cork game from Munster is of little interest to anyone else."
All right so the criteria for a game worth watching is it has to be knockout, no backdoor?"
There's a difference between a game worth watching and a game worth remembering.

Any game of ball is worth watching at the time.

Kerry v Cork in the Munster Championship is worth watching at the time, but hardly unmissable, you'll get to see it again next year, and the year after, and the year after that...... often if Cork are any use you'll get to see it later that year.

It's similar to a League match in how it feels. Very different from when it was genuinely a big fixture over 20 years ago."]Mes I think a great game is a great game weather its knockout or backdoor, Thea rivalry between ourselves and Cork in 00s and years prior was intense, even McGrath Cup games were hard fought.

And who wouldn't want to see O'Leary marking Galvin Lynch marking Gooch and Canty marking Donaghy? Great battles."]A good game is a good game indeed but to be truly great it has to be important.

I've been to many good league and early championship games but they just don't linger in the memory. Kerry v Cork in the Munster Championship just isn't all that important anymore, it's like them playing in the league, we'll watch but no one really cares all that much who wins, it's all about later on down the line. If either team wins the All-Ireland but has lost in Munster they don't care. Or if Cork were to beat Kerry in Munster but lose to them later on, which defo happened during the 00s but we'd have to look it up to remember when though, they wouldn't care about the meaningless provincial game earlier in the year.

The same goes for all the old big provincial games, but doubly so for Kerry/Cork coz they essentially play every year, unless Cork are terrible at the time."]Mes I see eir sport are going to show the 1977 final between yer selves and Armagh where ye won by 12 points.

That's going to be intriguing to rewatch isn't it? but showing a game where kerry wins! Nah sure who would want that eh?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 11732 - 06/05/2020 20:37:48    2277669

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "
Replying To MesAmis:  "[quote=KingdomBoy1:  "[quote=MesAmis:  "[quote=KingdomBoy1:  "[quote=MesAmis:  "That munster semifinal replay in 2010 was an excellent game between the current allireland champions and the allireland champions to be and you say that would be of no interest to anyone?

There were great battles in munster up to 2012 and even 2015 was enthralling.

I watched meath and kildare the last day and I'd have no interest in leinster football. But I enjoyed it.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 10670 - 06/05/2020 07:55:06 2277606


It was of no more interest to anyone outside of Kerry/West Cork as your average league game.

There was nothing riding on it, no one gets knocked out of the Championship if they lose.

An entertaining game, I've no doubt, when Cork are good they often are entertaining in the same way that league games are entertaining. But no one outside of Kerry/West Cork really remembers those games anymore coz they just don't matter in the way they used to.

Hopefully they'll show the Kerry/Armagh game from 06 for you, or maybe the Kerry/Dubs game from 07, they were both, if not classics, very enjoyable encounters but a Kerry/Cork game from Munster is of little interest to anyone else."
All right so the criteria for a game worth watching is it has to be knockout, no backdoor?"
There's a difference between a game worth watching and a game worth remembering.

Any game of ball is worth watching at the time.

Kerry v Cork in the Munster Championship is worth watching at the time, but hardly unmissable, you'll get to see it again next year, and the year after, and the year after that...... often if Cork are any use you'll get to see it later that year.

It's similar to a League match in how it feels. Very different from when it was genuinely a big fixture over 20 years ago."]Mes I think a great game is a great game weather its knockout or backdoor, Thea rivalry between ourselves and Cork in 00s and years prior was intense, even McGrath Cup games were hard fought.

And who wouldn't want to see O'Leary marking Galvin Lynch marking Gooch and Canty marking Donaghy? Great battles."]A good game is a good game indeed but to be truly great it has to be important.

I've been to many good league and early championship games but they just don't linger in the memory. Kerry v Cork in the Munster Championship just isn't all that important anymore, it's like them playing in the league, we'll watch but no one really cares all that much who wins, it's all about later on down the line. If either team wins the All-Ireland but has lost in Munster they don't care. Or if Cork were to beat Kerry in Munster but lose to them later on, which defo happened during the 00s but we'd have to look it up to remember when though, they wouldn't care about the meaningless provincial game earlier in the year.

The same goes for all the old big provincial games, but doubly so for Kerry/Cork coz they essentially play every year, unless Cork are terrible at the time."]Mes I see eir sport are going to show the 1977 final between yer selves and Armagh where ye won by 12 points.

That's going to be intriguing to rewatch isn't it? but showing a game where kerry wins! Nah sure who would want that eh?"]Ah but you forget that the Dubs are box office.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13145 - 06/05/2020 22:16:06    2277674

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Replying To MesAmis:  "
Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "[quote=MesAmis:  "[quote=KingdomBoy1:  "[quote=MesAmis:  "[quote=KingdomBoy1:  "[quote=MesAmis:  "That munster semifinal replay in 2010 was an excellent game between the current allireland champions and the allireland champions to be and you say that would be of no interest to anyone?

There were great battles in munster up to 2012 and even 2015 was enthralling.

I watched meath and kildare the last day and I'd have no interest in leinster football. But I enjoyed it.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 10670 - 06/05/2020 07:55:06 2277606


It was of no more interest to anyone outside of Kerry/West Cork as your average league game.

There was nothing riding on it, no one gets knocked out of the Championship if they lose.

An entertaining game, I've no doubt, when Cork are good they often are entertaining in the same way that league games are entertaining. But no one outside of Kerry/West Cork really remembers those games anymore coz they just don't matter in the way they used to.

Hopefully they'll show the Kerry/Armagh game from 06 for you, or maybe the Kerry/Dubs game from 07, they were both, if not classics, very enjoyable encounters but a Kerry/Cork game from Munster is of little interest to anyone else."
All right so the criteria for a game worth watching is it has to be knockout, no backdoor?"
There's a difference between a game worth watching and a game worth remembering.

Any game of ball is worth watching at the time.

Kerry v Cork in the Munster Championship is worth watching at the time, but hardly unmissable, you'll get to see it again next year, and the year after, and the year after that...... often if Cork are any use you'll get to see it later that year.

It's similar to a League match in how it feels. Very different from when it was genuinely a big fixture over 20 years ago."]Mes I think a great game is a great game weather its knockout or backdoor, Thea rivalry between ourselves and Cork in 00s and years prior was intense, even McGrath Cup games were hard fought.

And who wouldn't want to see O'Leary marking Galvin Lynch marking Gooch and Canty marking Donaghy? Great battles."]A good game is a good game indeed but to be truly great it has to be important.

I've been to many good league and early championship games but they just don't linger in the memory. Kerry v Cork in the Munster Championship just isn't all that important anymore, it's like them playing in the league, we'll watch but no one really cares all that much who wins, it's all about later on down the line. If either team wins the All-Ireland but has lost in Munster they don't care. Or if Cork were to beat Kerry in Munster but lose to them later on, which defo happened during the 00s but we'd have to look it up to remember when though, they wouldn't care about the meaningless provincial game earlier in the year.

The same goes for all the old big provincial games, but doubly so for Kerry/Cork coz they essentially play every year, unless Cork are terrible at the time."]Mes I see eir sport are going to show the 1977 final between yer selves and Armagh where ye won by 12 points.

That's going to be intriguing to rewatch isn't it? but showing a game where kerry wins! Nah sure who would want that eh?"]Ah but you forget that the Dubs are box office."]Yer box office for who? We know ye are the favourite child of the gaa that's why ye get 10 times more money than yer nearest rivals, and yer rivals are expected to catch up :-)

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 11732 - 07/05/2020 07:55:54    2277681

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I have to say even though Kerry we're bet in '82 while going for the five in a row it probably hurt even more when they lost last years final and couldn't stop it being done on their watch.
Two bad beatings and significant too in their overall achievements. Funny how it panned out for them really. Sport can be cruel I suppose.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1647 - 07/05/2020 19:44:05    2277724

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The pressure and the hype seemed to get to Kerry that day. Offaly were fully deserving of their win. It was third time lucky for the Faithfull County as they lost to the Kingdom in 1980 and 1981.

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 221 - 10/05/2020 18:36:30    2277890

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Replying To catch22:  "I have to say even though Kerry we're bet in '82 while going for the five in a row it probably hurt even more when they lost last years final and couldn't stop it being done on their watch.
Two bad beatings and significant too in their overall achievements. Funny how it panned out for them really. Sport can be cruel I suppose."
This guy is a one man trawler tonight, you might get some catches on the Dublin forum.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 5828 - 11/05/2020 01:14:18    2277916

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Replying To TheHermit:  "This guy is a one man trawler tonight, you might get some catches on the Dublin forum."
He's probably jimbo.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 11732 - 11/05/2020 07:51:15    2277921

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Replying To TheHermit:  "This guy is a one man trawler tonight, you might get some catches on the Dublin forum."
where has the dublin forum gone? looks like they've been on lockdown long before the virus. in fairness the kerry one keeps on trucking.

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1357 - 11/05/2020 19:16:43    2277963

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Replying To TheHermit:  "This guy is a one man trawler tonight, you might get some catches on the Dublin forum."
That's it bud , wha !

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1647 - 11/05/2020 20:18:34    2277966

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