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You really haven't a clue have you? In Italy they are so overwhelmed that in certain hospitals they've stopped treating people over 40 and just left them on oxygen masks to die. Maybe read a few Italian newspapers and see what's happening (google translate will help you). Your ignorance reflects the unfortunate ignorance of your government it seems. Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 926 - 13/03/2020 20:19:00 2273743 Link 11 |
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Stay safe everyone and most importantly be mindful of your behaviour around those most vulnerable to the virus, however long it takes to get us out of it so be it, #inittogether wexico15 (Wexford) - Posts: 2602 - 13/03/2020 20:21:02 2273745 Link 1 |
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You have to be careful of the information and how you read it. There may be more people die from the flu but the virus is 7 times more infectious that the flu. There is period in all these virus were they plato and the graph humps up. If this is not flattened out then there is a much bigger risk of escalation in infections. Thus the panic and getting smug about the risk today may be a mistake. No medical expert but this is the message from the top medical people and scientist. These are the people to listen to not the politician's like Trump talking through his rear end.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 979 - 13/03/2020 20:22:11 2273746 Link 1 |
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You are in healthcare??!!! Given how much time you seem to spend on here morning, noon and night I think we might now know why the HSE is in the state it is :D
TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 5828 - 13/03/2020 20:24:33 2273748 Link 5 |
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Its been in China sense xmas and they got it under control implementing strict measures, yes most of us recover from the virus but we could be the cause of someone in a vulnerable situation getting it
wexico15 (Wexford) - Posts: 2602 - 13/03/2020 20:32:02 2273749 Link 3 |
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Too late. There are around 10,000 Irish punters returning from Cheltenham as I write.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 1115 - 13/03/2020 20:59:12 2273752 Link 0 |
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Haaahhaaa nice one man
Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1106 - 13/03/2020 21:05:35 2273754 Link 2 |
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Totally agree. The effects for the vast majority is just like a normal flu - but that's not the point of the measures. This allows the health service to slow down the cases and allow them to care for people that would needlessly die otherwise.
Morty (Westmeath) - Posts: 171 - 13/03/2020 21:51:40 2273755 Link 0 |
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Please stop this kind of nonsense.
Morty (Westmeath) - Posts: 171 - 13/03/2020 21:53:02 2273756 Link 2 |
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Your correct a Crinigan. The virus is a threat to life but so are limited resources this is the problem with the virus. The numbers escalate to the point that not everyone can be treated if critical with virus. The nature of the the virus is its exponential growth, If the numbers escalate and grow to the point that not everyone can be treated then not everyone can be offered the opportunity to be cured. That's the worry we don't have an infinite number of ICU beds, when this virus hits mitigation a decision needs to be made on who gets treatment in ICU, at that stage it's not about who will recover, it's about who will be given priority to be treated. Our commuinty transmission is still relatively low, this is the main threat. By far the best way of managing the virus at this stage is identifying contacts of an effected person, isolating and testing these, they then become local cases, healthcare workers infected by their work are considered local to - there is an explainable source to their infection. Even though our community transmission is low, its worrisome because if one person has it and a source is unidentified, then there is someone unidentified going around spreading it, infecting others, unknown to anyone maybe even themselves. This is the risk of the "exponential growth", for example Denmark had 40 cases during the week that grew to 500 in 24 hours imagine the impact of that massive, speedy growth on finite health resources and professionals. We had 40 odd cases Weds and 70 odd yesterday and 90, over a 50% jump in 48 hours and on it goes and expands, every new case in another risk due the principal of exponential growth. That's the risk the bigger it gets the harder it is to control and landslides from there and impacts services. I didn't think we would move to the delay phase until 100 cases, so yesterday was positive, hopefully it's successful but I see measures escalating in the day's ahead now we have broke the seal. We are in the delay stage, the purpose is to give health services a chance before we hit the mitigation phase, this isn't going away or ending soon. Mad thing is the Goverment call for self distancing and what do people do - thousands head for the super market to stockpile. Insane. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 3671 - 13/03/2020 21:57:34 2273757 Link 1 |
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You have heard of the flu vaccine i assume?
achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 451 - 13/03/2020 22:12:56 2273759 Link 1 |
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Hope nothing happens your family.
cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 517 - 13/03/2020 22:19:57 2273761 Link 1 |
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Stay safe is always a good sentiment. Stay sensible is what I would advise, if you don't need to go out and meet someone then don't do it. Stay at home, surf the net, eat bread, drink water. If every one of us restricts our contact with others then we reduce the risk of transferring this virus on to to someone down the line who may not be able to fight it. We can all survive for the next 8 weeks without too much contact with the outside world. It still hasn't peaked, but in 3 months time it will have passed. We just need to keep ourselves to ourselves until then. I've seen some very creative ideas about how we can all help small businesses survive this temporary blip. Buy vouchers now for goods or services that can be redeemed in the future. Whether we like it or not, there are a lot of enterprises going to run out of cash and go bust. Small businesses who depend on footfall are going to be the worst affected. Hoofhearted (Australia) - Posts: 36 - 14/03/2020 03:21:01 2273770 Link 0 |
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I turned on the late late show for a few minutes last night just to see if they were keeping the 1to 2 meter rule and no there was a full audience side by side singing away with some young lad on stage. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 11732 - 14/03/2020 10:04:22 2273778 Link 0 |
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Thank you.
Gowran_Yank (Kilkenny) - Posts: 96 - 14/03/2020 10:09:03 2273779 Link 1 |
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Ok talking to a politician friend of mine, there is absolutely no need for the panic buying, last year the gov put in a plan for a no deal brexit , basically doubled in some cases tripled the supply chain in the event of a crash out, there is warehouses all over the country stocked with dry goods, and toiletries (yes even loo roll) . Freezer Containers full of frozen goods and meets etc, we have enough supply that if we didn't get one shipment into country for next six months we wouldn't run short. People need to not believe what is been written or said on the likes of fb WhatsApp or Twitter. For god sake people stop the bloody panic buying. So much for a new tolerant country my ass, everyone for themselves mentality is absolutely disgraceful. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 14/03/2020 10:12:57 2273781 Link 0 |
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Are you saying panic is a good answer? Panic is what I fear most from this. I trust the elderly in my family to use common sense & will help them in any way possible but I am blown away by the media & the public's reaction. Panic never helped anything. I do hope for the best for all of you and your families whether we completely agree or not. Gowran_Yank (Kilkenny) - Posts: 96 - 14/03/2020 10:23:02 2273782 Link 2 |
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It wasnt a full audience. Was there not pre recorded or old clips used which would have had audiences. They started the show with a doc and few other medical professionals who talked through correct procedures to deal with covid19 KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 1636 - 14/03/2020 11:31:58 2273785 Link 2 |
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I'd say a lot of us heard the same thing from a politician. Heather Humphreys stated that categorically in a broadcasted press conference :-/ greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 830 - 14/03/2020 12:54:44 2273794 Link 1 |
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The panic buying is crazy, selfish and smacks of as long as I have what I need to hell with everyone else. Panic about the virus itself ? May be somewhat but better than denial. If you use posters on here as barometer for the serious of the situation the majority are trying to playing it down. Comparing you chance of getting it with winning the lottery is a stupid comparison based on zero science. Not winning the lottery doesn't change anyone's life but for someone getting the virus it may get them a head stone. A virus control doctor said that those who are in denial about the virus are a worry because of they possible ignoring protective care. It would not surprise me if they are also the people running with the food off the shelves. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 979 - 14/03/2020 13:05:54 2273795 Link 4 |