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Dublin Vs Kerry Replay - 15 Like(s)
Replying To TheHermit: "Amazing how in the light of siring questions and the full glare of public opinion turning on D-GAA and by extension Dublin, the climate change deniers turn to googling provincial records of other counties or insinuating that people asking honest and hard questions are not "genuine" GAA people.
I've seen it over on the Kerry forum by "guests" coming in to "commensurate" with us.
Apparently if we point to the well know facts and figures we are dismissed as being "obsessed" with Dublin and are probably an "embarrassment" to genuine GAA people in our county.
It's very interesting seeing how the arguments, deflections and rhetoric of Dublin supporters on places like this and on social media are evolving. One thing is for sure, it's getting more aggressive, more defensive and by implication they know public opinion has well and truly shifted and they can't hide behind words like volunteerism and once in a generation any longer. The horse has bolted.
Also of course this isn't some reaction to the 5 in a row, for several years now people have rightly been asking questions about what has been allowed go on with Dublin by the GAA.
We have the GPA, every major media outlet, every second poster on here and the majority of GAA supporters up and down the country raising these issues now. Are we all paranoid or obsessed or can Dublin supporters finally concide the simple premise that where there's smoke there's a fire.
What's beyond doubt for me is that there's a semi-professional team playing 31 other counties and playing all but 1 or 2 of their games in their own ground. They are a talented, truly excellent group of players with an incredible manager but don't tell me or anyone else their dominance hasn't been greatly aided. In the past week we have heard how the Dublin senior team is able to engage in high-altitude training, no wonder they can keep running while other teams are out on their feet when the clock hits 70l!
I'm sure the Dubs have enjoyed the 5 in a row, personally I don't think they being first to do it negates the wonderful tradition and history of my own county.
History will judge this decade in the long run and the contexts of what went on will be set out.
Looking forward to 2020 and also to the GAA (rightly) getting it in the neck all winter." History will also judge those facile Kerry AIs won with just 3-4 games. Meaningless titles and so the roll of honour will have a huge asterisk against them. This Dublin team won 9 games in the championship this year. Four of their AI final were won by either a point or went to replay. That's how hard fought they were. The money of course is games development money that is pushed down to the lower levels and not IC but it does give ammunition to the uninformed begrudgers. It's been a tremendous hard fought run from Dublin, 9 games this year, 8 games last year to win Sam and almost halted 3 times by Mayo x 2 and Kerry x 1 but it's a measure of this team's greatness that they should come through. It must pain some to witness their great success.
Joxer (National) - 22/09/2019 15:12:03
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Stephen Cluxton - 15 Like(s)
It's always hard to comment on a Dublin player and not be accused of having the blue tinted glasses on but he is a one of a kind IMO. I watched him yesterday pluck a kid out of the Cusack stand, little guy handed over by his dad, and Clucko walked him around with him around with the team and then jogged the kid back over to his dad from the Hogan stand. He stopped again there for photos and to sign autographs. He could have been centre stage with the lads and the cup but instead he spent the victory lap with the kids and their parents. Apart from being a great shot stopper, his commanding presence in the air (fisting away, fielding), his revolutionising of the kick-out, his penalty stopping record, his ability to take 45s, his perfectionism and training ethic, the guy is just a great leader and class act. A true legend and I really hope that when he does hang up the boots that he becomes a member of the backroom team. His leadership and experience would be invaluable.
Joxer (National) - 15/09/2019 21:25:43
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Mayo V Galway - 15 Like(s)
Replying To WanPintWin: "Well, sin sin. The soft early goal put us on the back foot straight away. The first half was a familiar sight unfortunately. Slow build-up and a complete lack of support any time we won a ball inside. We started to finally look like a better team when we went man for man and pushed up fully on their kickout.
We have no business in the last 8 this year, and it should be the catalyst for a change of the management team. The best of luck to Mayo in the Super 8s. They'll give Kerry a much better rattle than we would have at the moment.
On a separate note, I'm not one to usually call out players, but Cillian O'Connor was a shining example of so much that is wrong with the game today. He takes playacting to a level I haven't seen before, be it diving, faking getting hit and constantly trying to get his marker booked. I'm well aware that he's not unique in this regard, but the regularity of it is ridiculous in his case." O'Connor is a blight on the game. He is constantly in the referee's ear, niggling at the opposition and then when he gets a tap he's on the deck glancing up at the ref looking for a free. His antics should be held up to every kid in the country as an example of how not to act on the field of play. On the game itself, cracking entertainment compared to the earlier snoozefest. Both team tried to play open football which was great, none of the endless halfway line hand-passing nonsense. Galway paid for those early goal concessions. Comer could have been the answer but they didn't seem to know how to play him. Mayo's experience and game management shone through. That's going to be some group in the S8s.
Joxer (National) - 06/07/2019 23:07:42
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Kerry 4 In A Row V Dublin 5 In A Row - 14 Like(s)
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "Yep its true, the GAA couldn't do anything while the dubs were going for the 5 but it's ok now .
But in fairness it should have been done from the start." Yes it should make a huge difference alright. Dubs have a 100% record in away games in Super 8s. It's hard to see their neutral game stats being much less inferior. The business end games will still be in Croker and sure Croker has to be somewhere. Any truth in the rumour that Kerry will get a bye to the Super 8s next year? After 81 titles in a hurling province it looks as though the penny is finally dropping with HQ. Munster football is a write off.
Joxer (National) - 20/09/2019 15:29:04
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Bernard Brogan Has Retired From IC Football - 14 Like(s)
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "Will you cop on 37, intercounty football is dead and buried at this stage, the only thing that can save it now is if the GAA revive the lads old railway cup and they enter Dublin as a 5th province." But sure ye could have saved it yourselves in game 1 this year had ye not curled into your blanket defence shell and invited 14 Dubs onto ye.
Joxer (National) - 30/10/2019 14:36:58
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Dublin Pull Out Of The O'Byrne Cup - 14 Like(s)
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "Well we pay for our own holiday down here in kerry anyway as we pay for everything out of our own pockets, our county board put a €10 levy on allireland final tickets that goes towards the holiday." If you ever win an AI again I'm sure that the KCB will pay for you to go to Center Parcs. It's not like they can't afford it with all of the dollars coming in from Kerry Group, the myriad of sponsors, the US and of course Minister Brendan Griffin.
Joxer (National) - 10/01/2020 18:15:12
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Dublin Vs Kerry Replay - 14 Like(s)
Replying To mayo_123: "12 steps who else but Dublin would get away with it but that said fair play great achievement congrats" How many steps did Killian Spillane take for his goal in the drawn game? 8. I don't remember you on here whinging about it though.
Joxer (National) - 14/09/2019 23:29:54
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Dublin 2015 - 2019 - 14 Like(s)
Replying To Tizcold: "The Man City of the Gaa....." Must try harder.
Joxer (National) - 18/09/2019 12:44:39
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Munster Footballers Revolt In 2013 - 14 Like(s)
Replying To legendzxix: "As I mentioned in another thread:
"In October 2013, the players of Clare, Limerick, Tipperary and Waterford threatened to boycott the 2015 Munster Football Championship. They were rightly annoyed with wrong decision to seed Kerry and Cork in opposite semi-finals.
It was about time these counties grew a pair to sort the mess. After extensive meetings, it was rightly agreed that Munster finalists would be seeded to the semi-finals in the following year but could be drawn against each other. Tipperary benefitted from this seeding a few years back. The seeding is now earned on the field of play."
Is this an example of what players in other provinces might have to do if they are unhappy about injustices or imbalances?" Fair play to those counties. Did it benefit them? Who won Munster in 2013?..... wait I'll just check. Ah, ok, Kerry won it
Surely this new found courage delivered in 2014. No looks like Kerry again
2015 hard luck, Kerry again
2016 surely this time. No, Kerry
2017 it has to be or what was the point. Kerry again
2018 for the love of God come on other counties. Oops it's Kerry again
2019 no way. It can't be. It is ye know. Kerry yet again.
Fair play to those counties. They should ask God for the time wasted on it back.
Joxer (National) - 02/07/2019 19:20:15
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Kerry V Dublin - 13 Like(s)
Replying To bdbuddah: "Some people want to completely turn Gaelic football into tiddlywinks." Certainly if penos and red cards are to be dished out for the likes of the grappling that we saw today then we are already at the tiddlywinks stage.
Joxer (National) - 01/09/2019 22:16:16
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Jim Gavin - Freedom Of The City - 13 Like(s)
Replying To Jack_Goff: "Will you be building the GAA administrators statues as well? They're the unsung heroes. Never even get so much as a thanks for Dublin GAA people." Statue of Dean Rock outside Ashbourne Credit Union with 4 Sams at his feet, with one in his hands polishing it with a Meath jersey.
Joxer (Dublin) - 23/09/2019 22:33:24
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Next Dublin Manager - 13 Like(s)
Replying To cavanman47: "That's the bit that no Dublin poster can close the circle on!
They claim they've been successful in a competitive era where standards are higher than ever, and yet they've scraped past a Mayo team who failed to win Connaught and drew with Derry and Cork in the same championship.
Mayo stumbled to the all ireland finals of 16 and 17 and were still a match for Dublin.
Kerry were definitely in transition in 2015 and came within a score of Dublin without showing up for that final.
If any team other than Dublin had won the 2018 all ireland, they'd probably be labelled the worst team to ever win it.
2019 Kerry are showing signs of a very promising young team, but even drawing the 1st final was a huge shock as they've a long way to go to become the finished article.
The Celtic comparison is relevant here again. The current Celtic team will win 10 in a row in all likelihood. They are by far and away a pale pale shadow of previous Celtic teams who couldn't manage the same feat.
Good achievements on paper aren't always what they seem." Yet Dublin are 37 games unbeaten in the championship. That's not just a good achievement, it's likely to never be surpassed. That's something that some people just don't get, for some reason.
Joxer (National) - 16/12/2019 14:43:12
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Dublin Results 2019 - 13 Like(s)
Replying To Jack_Goff: "It would be painful if it was a county like Kildare doing what you are doing. They are on a pretty equal footing to us across different metrics.
Nobody in Meath is feeling too down about a province with 7 times our population, 30 times our funding this century and far more registered players dominating. Not to mention far bigger sponsorship money, better facilities and resources available.
It's like a Wolves fan feeling down because Man City are winning the league. Keep convincing yourself that we are though." Yeah it would be like Meath beating Carlow I suppose. You just don't see Carlow people on here incessantly whinging about Meath's advantages over them though. Funny you didn't have a problem with your mismatched fixture against Carlow, almost triple scores I think in the end.
Joxer (National) - 12/08/2019 22:09:44
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Gough Speaks Out Against Shamefull Slurs - 13 Like(s)
Replying To GeniusGerry: "The victim mentality from fans of a team that has spent a decade outspending everyone to the tune of millions while playing every meaningful game at home along the way is actually embarrassing." Spending is all relative Gerry. Kerry have been spending millions and the county population is just twice that of Tallaght. EVERY game at home?? Murchin could race Moran at the Kingdom Greyhound Stadium in Tralee or Shelbourne Park in Ringsend, we all know that the outcome would be the same. David would still be eating dust. Gerry, there was a time when I actually thought that you were a voice of reason amongst a predictable cohort of Kerry WUMs. Looks like you may just be another Kerry Legend trumpeting the same old predictable bluster and trying to make excuses for your own county's shortcomings. Get the head up. Jim has abdicated the thrown. Ye may just have a chance this year.
Joxer (National) - 02/12/2019 19:59:18
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Kennelly Salutes Egoless Dubs - 12 Like(s)
I've always been fond of Tadhg. Like a true Kerry supporter, he doesn't begrudge and he knows his football ;)
Joxer (National) - 17/10/2019 20:13:08
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Kerry 4 In A Row V Dublin 5 In A Row - 12 Like(s)
Replying To legendzxix: "I was impressed with Kerry's Munster Championship. Winning a provincial title without any home games in Killarney.
When Dublin get to 40, the question is: Who has won the most All-Irelands away from home?!
Anyways look, Dublin have achieved what is a good achievement for them. May they winter well." I was very impressed with Kerry's Munster Championship win on the 4 in a row when they were crowned champions after just one game, yes one game!!! They won a Sam having played just 3 games. They won 2 Sams having played just 7 games. Dublin had to play 9 games this year alone to win Sam. No contest really is there? As Tomás said. The greatest of all time. I think that Kerry man should have the last word on it as he would know.
Joxer (National) - 18/09/2019 16:42:00
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Sean Boylan Vs Jim Gavin - Who Is The Greatest? - 12 Like(s)
Replying To TheHermit: "Whatever about Dublin fatigue, your good self reached saturation point years ago.
Still your mind numbing essays returning on here and least signals we must be winning the old war on Covid, eh doc??
As a wider point it's good to see that after the hype of the 5 in a row has settled down, Dublin's success is now being seen for what it is by the wider GAA world.
This, * my Dublin friends is an asterisk. You'll spend the rest of your lives getting acquainted with it :D" This my Kerry friend is the number 5. You'll spend the rest of your life getting acquainted with it :D
Joxer (National) - 25/05/2020 23:55:25
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Forum reopened due to demand - 12 Like(s)
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "I see the mods are still a barrel of laughs on here, God forbid ye might lighten up and let a few fun posts through." Mods, can we put some more social distancing between us Dubs and Kingdomboy? Give him his own thread or something and he might self isolate there. :). No offence pal.
Joxer (National) - 18/03/2020 23:54:39
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Dublin Vs Kerry Replay - 12 Like(s)
Replying To TheHermit: "Ah yes all our 37 titles were shams and sure don't we know only titles won in this decade count for anything, D GAA never existed before 2011.
Pitiful stuff from the usual climate deniers but keep it up, they seem convinced too it's only conspiracy theorists in Kerry that are asking questions, lads the whole country is and has been for a long time.
If only you had the decency to acknowledge the help you've been given perhaps public opinion would be less indignant. But no siege mentality and sneering is all ye can retreat to.
It's been a long time since I bothered reading the Dublin forum but I'd be curious too the amount of Kerry posters that said congrats on there to ye after last Sat week and contrasted that with the amount of ye that came onto the Kerry forum to have a go or "commiserate" as most of ye called it.
It tells its own story.
Anyway it's back to the county championship for us and hoping to find a few more players that can make the step up. 2020 should be a massive year for Kerry." Why be curious? Just have a look. If Kerry posters are consoling themselves in their defeat by coming onto the National Forum and questioning Dublin's success due to population and/or money then expect your own successes to be questioned also. It's only fair isn't it? Genuine Kerry posters, and there are some on here like Gerry, will be consoled by Dublin posters. WUMs and begrudgers may expect to be flamed.
Joxer (National) - 22/09/2019 16:21:06
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Kerry V Dublin - 12 Like(s)
Special mention to Clucko. What a keeper that man is. Two world class saves today and his 45 yard arrow setup the Dublin goal. Unquestionably a keeper for the ages.
Joxer (National) - 01/09/2019 22:56:24
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