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I am 100% against every new rule change that is due to be trialed and introduced into our game. DontChangeAThing (Meath) - Posts: 12 - 15/11/2018 17:44:55 2151252 Link 0 |
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A bad 10 15 years is a lot of bad football lad, but I hear your pain it's gotten bad from poor coaches I think Jim Gavin is the only real one to b promoting good attacking football at the moment. Ok there has been good coaches over the last 20 years but the blanket defense and lazy coaching has killed all passion for a good one on one battle.all that will happen with the changes is there there to b bended.and ridiculed and more bull on the sunday game. Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 15/11/2018 21:49:56 2151269 Link 0 |
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Don't get me wrong it has been poor but changing the game is not the answer. DontChangeAThing (Meath) - Posts: 12 - 15/11/2018 22:09:44 2151270 Link 0 |
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"The handpass is part of our game, always has been and always should be". This is a load of nonsense, the handpass existed in the early 1950's and was the outlawed. It was reintroduced in the mid seventies. At that stage handpassd goals became commonplace especially by Erin 'Bomber' Liston. I am not sure when handpassed goals were banned but they were as were handpassed points. So you see the handpass has been removed in the past and has been tweaked several times in the pass. As an aside the Antrim team of the early '50s became known as 'handpass experts' but did not deliver an All Ireland for them. Unlike Dublin and Kerry who were the first out of the blocks in the '70s and dominated the game for seven consecutive years. MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 742 - 16/11/2018 11:42:09 2151300 Link 0 |
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Coaching is the answer absolutely but in our county very little been promoted as regard education it's boys club freinds getting the jobs. Any good coaches outside that loop get the scraps or nothing at all.
Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 16/11/2018 12:00:37 2151303 Link 0 |
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Taken from the main page in support of NO RULE CHANGES: DontChangeAThing (Meath) - Posts: 12 - 19/11/2018 19:48:49 2151719 Link 0 |
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You make a good point and maybe the changes are required for the coaches-the guys dictating how our games are being played with most of them promoting a game with few forwards and everyone behind the ball. Most of them coach a type of play which is 'damage limitation' based.
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2189 - 20/11/2018 14:40:20 2151832 Link 12 |
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Agreed there is no need for any rule changes. The changes that are needed are the way teams are coached/instructed to play mainly at county level. The reason we have poor games at inter county level is due to teams playing at a level that they should not be at. Nobody is ever crying out for rule changes in the league, and this is because teams are playing opposition at their own level and they believe they can beat them and go out in play with the intention of outscoring the opposition. Then come championship you have division 3/4 teams playing division 1 teams and as a result it is one sided and meaningless and one team goes out with no realistic believe that they can actually win the match. You will get a once off like Carlow v Kildare this year but that is that is, a once off. The Super 8's was tarnished by the first round of games where Roscommon (Div 2) came up against Tyrone (Div 1) in a not even half full dead Croke Park and got absolutely hammered out the gate. Donegal v Dublin was a decent match, while Galway v Kerry was played on a horrendous day weather wise on the same day as the world cup final (not an excuse for the game, more the crowd) in a half empty Croke Park and both teams played within themselves. I have attended many club games from minor up to Senior recently and college matches and the games are very entertaining and teams are going out to play football in the right way. These rule changes, especially the hand pass and kickout ones, are ridiculous and need to be stopped. Limiting the hand pass to just 3 is outrageous. They may as well have got rid of it all together if that's they way they want it. Rule changes are not what is needed now. A new calendar that a accommodates both club and county football and hurling, equally at all levels is what is needed. The club scene makes up 95% of the GAA playing population and brings people the most joy and participation, yet it the one that is being ignored the most. Start with a blank page and go again is what is needed. It cannot continue the way it is going. BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 565 - 20/11/2018 15:36:28 2151848 Link 2 |
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The sideline rule is stupid. No need for having to kick forward. As it stands all teams have to get back behind the ball and cut off supply. Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 25/11/2018 17:29:08 2152385 Link 0 |
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What football are you watching???? The game has been around for over 100 years alright, but for god sake it has quickly turned into a game that looks so bad it would crack a television screen. I personally watch any sport on TV as long as it's interesting but I have found myself turning off Gaelic Football because it is that predictable and hard to watch. Any changes they are trying to implement is a good thing. For example, the biggest spectacle of the Gaelic Football calendar is the All-Ireland Final and bar the fact that Dublin are obviously above and beyond anything in the country, I don't see how it could have been considered good to watch. The hard hitting is gone, the CCCC have to much influence on suspensions,etc... and unless some sort of Semi Professional pay gets introduced into football, we are going to continue to loose our best attributes to the AFL, Rugby and Soccer. Every change attempted to better the game is a step in the right direction.
bowza123 (Meath) - Posts: 42 - 26/11/2018 12:03:06 2152454 Link 1 |
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Change for the sake of change does not make our game better. Are the guys coming up with the changes for real. I'm not against changes but most of what is proposed is silly (like the black card which was impossible to apply correctly). Maybe less changes of the rules and more changes in how we manage and coach would have better results. Get the Refs to penalise the arm pulling, dragging when an opponent is going past would help greatly and stop blowing up the shoulder to shoulder contact. How will a Ref be able to do the counts on some of these rules with all the other incidents going on around him?- will he require a calculator?, or an extra set of eyes. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2189 - 26/11/2018 12:47:07 2152464 Link 12 |
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100% agree with all that's said here- appears to be some crazy people in charge of our game. Only one change that might work well is the sin bin and get rid of the stupid black card. Football is better than it ever was-its just Dublin are so far ahead than the rest of us that they are trying to come up with quick ways of balancing it out instead of dealing with the real issues. Crazy stuff!!! Poormouth (Meath) - Posts: 193 - 26/11/2018 18:22:56 2152517 Link 0 |
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There are simple things that can change the game........it has been mentioned already but the basic 4 steps rule has just been totally forgotten about and refs rarely police it unless its 6/7 + steps. This means players are not going into tackles and the game has lost that element. People constantly contradicting themselves with these new rules too.......people want more tackling back in the game but then take away this opp from defenders by introducing the mark. Have the people in HQ focused on how they want the game to genuinely look in 15-20 years?! I. Don't think they have. I'm a player and theae rules are doing the complete opposite to what people might think and they are actually turning me off the game of they come through. DontChangeAThing (Meath) - Posts: 12 - 26/11/2018 21:43:40 2152530 Link 0 |
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If the changes were that simple and obvious, I think surely it would have been figured out. I would agree with you that the mark is a silly new rule and they have tried to implement to many changes at once, but I feel like that they are doing things as trial and error. I am usually the first to criticize the likes of these changes but they say when it's not broken, don't fix it. But it's broken and every trial run they do on rule change is an attempt to repair the damage they have done to the beautiful game. You mentioned that players don't go into contact anymore and I don't blame them because some of the adjudged fouls by ref's are borderline insane. Football in a referee's eyes, in this day and age, is practically non-contact and is a huge part of the reason why football has gone so bad. I don't condone some of the nastiness that used to happen years ago but gaelic football is nearly as bad as soccer now. I think if they stopped targeting the game itself and went back to training referee's better at every level, the game would be rejuvenated. Too often football matches are tainted by decisions throughout a game instead of sometimes just letting the game played as it was many years ago. But it has to be consistent. bowza123 (Meath) - Posts: 42 - 27/11/2018 09:41:44 2152569 Link 0 |
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Ah the romantic notion that football long ago was better. What a load of crap.There are far higher scoring these days. Just look back at the results from the 70/80's. latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 325 - 27/11/2018 19:10:56 2152638 Link 0 |
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There are very strong and differing views here. The main problem in my opinion is that too many changes are being introduced at the same time. The spectators will simply go ballistic especially if a mistake is made by a referee, while players nodding off will be excused. Personally I think there has to be some restriction on the hand pass, it is football after all. In rugby league all players have to be aware of the "6 down" rule and they can manage so our players should be able to cope with the 3 handpass limit. Players actually do communicate with each other on the field, they could easily call "1", "2", "3" etc, not rocket science and it would also influence / assist the referee, that is if the said referees had anything between the ears, some may even resent the calls. The various 'marks' would be hard to police together with the forward sideline kick, while I can understand the intent it is too much in too short a timeframe. MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 742 - 28/11/2018 00:31:35 2152674 Link 0 |
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I'm talking about 80's/90's and early 00's, when football in my opinion was at its best. I don't see how you can disagree with that? Games are far higher scoring? Maybe in one sided contests in every other province other than Ulster which is mostly puke football and has crept into teams all over the country. I agree that some of the rule changes are ludicrous but when the silly ones are removed again, it may entice players to do what those changes were attempting to gain without players thinking about it. Dublin included, the game is spending too much time going sideways and backways and I, for one, am delighted that there is more emphasis on bringing direct kick passing back into the game. bowza123 (Meath) - Posts: 42 - 28/11/2018 09:24:34 2152683 Link 0 |
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Ur goin to see other teams target that by shouting numbers to confuse it. But let's give it a chance to see how it goes
Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 28/11/2018 10:36:29 2152689 Link 0 |
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In that era the players tried to play football even if they were getting well beaten and there was some enjoyment. Now times have moved on and our game has gone backwards with many folk deciding not to watch a game which has gone like soccer- with the game being slowed up with back passing, side passing, allowing enough time for everyone to get behind the ball. Now the players are faster, fitter, maybe stronger but not able to take a good shoulder. Some of the modern players have low skill level on the basics. Like the soccer some of the modern players will roll over and fake injury to get an advantage. Something has to change. Now there has been some excellent games like Dublin v Mayo.
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2189 - 28/11/2018 10:41:03 2152691 Link 13 |