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I am at a total loss in trying to understand how Longford could pick their own man on every kickout. Why was this allowed to continue for so long? Embarrassingly poor i would describe it. Seems no awareness from sideline or no leadership on field. I am very critical of Andy and his team who carry full responsibility for this shambles. I am NOT calling for Andy's head . but i am saying wake up Andy and your team. One can support and be critical at the same time when you see a shambles for almost the entire match. It was very simple to give the instruction MAKE THE LONGFORD GOALIE KICK IT OUTFIELD. Why was that not done?? nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 841 - 15/01/2018 19:23:40 2068562 Link
More importantly do we have Kick out Strategy in place yet ? i suppose January is all about giving lads a run,see what they are like..see will they use their own football common sense without always been told what to do ! if this was late march or early April ...i would be worried WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 829 - 15/01/2018 21:02:11 2068580 Link
Sorry just think that is an over simplification. To me there is no acceptable excuse because it was allowed to CONTINUE for so long. VERY disappointing. nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 841 - 15/01/2018 21:20:36 2068585 Link
Replying To nobull456: "Sorry just think that is an over simplification. To me there is no acceptable excuse because it was allowed to CONTINUE for so long. VERY disappointing." I am not saying you are wrong Nobull....just I am not that worried just yet ! Forgive me if it looks like I am brushing things under the carpet with the rest of everything else....I am just not worried yet ! Plus I am on tablets ..lots of them WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 829 - 15/01/2018 21:52:29 2068592 Link
GOOD.....They seem to be working well for you. I think i may need a good dose of them before long . Maybe that is what i am missing! nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 841 - 15/01/2018 22:03:18 2068594 Link
Longford keeper had no long kick out. I don't know how or why we didn't go man to man. The few times we numbered up and he no option but to kick it straight to Menton. It's worrying that the short game was let persist..it wont do us any favours Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 750 - 15/01/2018 22:45:33 2068599 Link
Letting Longford have the short kick out is worrying but that can be easily fixed. The most worrying thing for me is why can't we have our own kick out strategy? They are allegedly training since October, are they spending all their time in the gym or should they not be working on their tactical approach. That can be the difference between winning and losing a game in my opinion. Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 15/01/2018 23:14:30 2068606 Link
We dont have a kick out strategy. Lump it down the field for a 50 50 chance of winning it and to be honest we are not hungry/good enough to win the breaks. You look at the top club football in Ireland and they all have a strategy of get the ball to a free man or make space for someone to run into. We need to wise up sharp as we are not physically bit enough to win breaks. It is extremely frustrating when you think plays are training 6 nights a week. As for this short fist passing non sense dont get me started. Terrible to say but we played better under Micko for 80% of the game but could not close anything out. I would still keep the faith as the right guys are in charge but we need to see progress. Roscommon could give us a good kicking if we play like last weekend. pretender (Meath) - Posts: 358 - 16/01/2018 08:03:34 2068618 Link
The main concern here for me over this was the lack of leadership on the pitch and also from the sidelines. Every single time you just knew it was going to happen. Goalie should have been made kick it out onto the field and the lads should have been putting pressure on him to do this but with no guidance it continued for the whole game. How it was allowed to continue is beyond me. I would be a tad bit worried going forward if im honest. Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 16/01/2018 08:50:42 2068622 Link
Replying To Barney123: "Letting Longford have the short kick out is worrying but that can be easily fixed. The most worrying thing for me is why can't we have our own kick out strategy? They are allegedly training since October, are they spending all their time in the gym or should they not be working on their tactical approach. That can be the difference between winning and losing a game in my opinion." Have to agree with you. You can see the players who have dropped weight and bulked up, we are looking fitter than we did last year and thats great but we need to be to working on our tactics. Andy has alot of pressure on them to get their fitness levels up training as a team and also training on their own time. But if we are fit and built like tanks but have no strategy whats the point!! Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 16/01/2018 10:01:10 2068635 Link
Replying To pretender: "We dont have a kick out strategy. Lump it down the field for a 50 50 chance of winning it and to be honest we are not hungry/good enough to win the breaks. You look at the top club football in Ireland and they all have a strategy of get the ball to a free man or make space for someone to run into. We need to wise up sharp as we are not physically bit enough to win breaks. It is extremely frustrating when you think plays are training 6 nights a week. As for this short fist passing non sense dont get me started. Terrible to say but we played better under Micko for 80% of the game but could not close anything out. I would still keep the faith as the right guys are in charge but we need to see progress. Roscommon could give us a good kicking if we play like last weekend." They arent training football 6 nights a week. They also put in their own training which is gym based. Maybe he should be taking them the 6 nights and actually train football. Look we need to keep the faith, its early days and this time last year we would have been out of the O'Byrne cup. Every year we are optimistic and then its like a kick in the stomach. We weren't consistent last year. Could this really be our year for football?? Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 16/01/2018 10:09:35 2068639 Link
In the first half we obviously had a strategy of let them have kick outs and dispose them in our half. Ala Tyrone, It didn't work. No harm trying things out in this comp that's what it's there for. Management have to learn what works and does not work in games, you only learn that in games never in training. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 16/01/2018 10:23:37 2068642 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "In the first half we obviously had a strategy of let them have kick outs and dispose them in our half. Ala Tyrone, It didn't work. No harm trying things out in this comp that's what it's there for. Management have to learn what works and does not work in games, you only learn that in games never in training." True but they looked like they hadnt a clue what they were doing 1st half and even though it was probably a plan McEntee had it didnt look good and was very frustrating to watch. It was very poor football no matter what way you look at it. But they definetly have to have learned from it cos as you said this is what these games are for a learning curve for them. Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 16/01/2018 10:31:10 2068647 Link
Replying To Loyalroyal17: "True but they looked like they hadnt a clue what they were doing 1st half and even though it was probably a plan McEntee had it didnt look good and was very frustrating to watch. It was very poor football no matter what way you look at it. But they definetly have to have learned from it cos as you said this is what these games are for a learning curve for them." Oh I agree it didn't look good or work too well. In second half it changed . You see in training this might have looked all rosy , better to find out now that the lads just didn't get hang of it at all , than in a game v rossies Cavan or cork. Plenty to work on, rumours have it heslin may be back for Sunday, if that's the case then westmeath won't be doing any short kick outs. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 16/01/2018 11:10:05 2068661 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Oh I agree it didn't look good or work too well. In second half it changed . You see in training this might have looked all rosy , better to find out now that the lads just didn't get hang of it at all , than in a game v rossies Cavan or cork. Plenty to work on, rumours have it heslin may be back for Sunday, if that's the case then westmeath won't be doing any short kick outs." John Heslin or no other St Loman's player will be involved Sunday. Looking forward to a keenly contested local derby and I reckon Meath will have too much for their opponents. RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 809 - 16/01/2018 12:10:48 2068674 Link
If Westmeath saw that game Sunday they would be playing all their kick outs short.... Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 16/01/2018 12:45:54 2068677 Link
Replying To Loyalroyal17: "True but they looked like they hadnt a clue what they were doing 1st half and even though it was probably a plan McEntee had it didnt look good and was very frustrating to watch. It was very poor football no matter what way you look at it. But they definetly have to have learned from it cos as you said this is what these games are for a learning curve for them." Yes .....Will learning take place as a result? That is the important issue. Cant understand how it went on so long. However,lets see what happens next. Think that shambles will not be repeated. ON and UP. nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 841 - 16/01/2018 13:02:30 2068682 Link
Replying To nobull456: "Yes .....Will learning take place as a result? That is the important issue. Cant understand how it went on so long. However,lets see what happens next. Think that shambles will not be repeated. ON and UP." Heres hoping. Jeez we cant possibly play that bad again, i will be shocked if we see a repeat of it Sunday. Something seriously wrong in camp if we do. Hon the Royals!! Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 16/01/2018 14:16:44 2068702 Link