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I see there is talk of changing the under 20 competition to an under 19 competition (National). That would leave us with with Minor (Under 17) and Under 19. I think this would be a bad move. Firstly I think a 3 year gap between two significant age groups is just about right but I also think you will have boys under 19 who are doing leaving or just starting out their first year in college. In terms of 2021, it would mean that boys born in 2001(unless they played last year) will miss out on an opportunity which I think is a shame Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 284 - 05/11/2020 13:43:04 2305319 Link
listening to Moyles on the OTB podcast during the week, he mentioned that the u20 manager for 2021 still wasn't in place, we gave ourselves no chance last year with Ger Robinson's team not getting started till mid December are we going to make the same mistakes again. we can give out about Dublin being so well funded but we have to get the basics right here in Meath and help ourselves? Being organised doesn't cost anything extra the Kildare & Dublin Management teams are all in place and have started ABD09 (Meath) - Posts: 44 - 26/11/2020 09:44:22 2315521 Link
Replying To ABD09: "listening to Moyles on the OTB podcast during the week, he mentioned that the u20 manager for 2021 still wasn't in place, we gave ourselves no chance last year with Ger Robinson's team not getting started till mid December are we going to make the same mistakes again. we can give out about Dublin being so well funded but we have to get the basics right here in Meath and help ourselves? Being organised doesn't cost anything extra the Kildare & Dublin Management teams are all in place and have started" The question is why is this happening lots of shenagins goin on or just pure stupidity from people in power to make these decisions. Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 254 - 26/11/2020 10:45:09 2315541 Link
Replying To Borderroyal: "The question is why is this happening lots of shenagins goin on or just pure stupidity from people in power to make these decisions." im a bit of a broken record , giving out about CB , and look thats not fair to a lot of good people who are there or who have been there over the last number of years. And for me to just keep labelling the CB as clowns is totally wrong. . I do think at the root of it is a disconnect....call it even a mistrust...between administrators generally on the one side....and Management & players on the other...and very often it leads to really bad communication between both sides, and the odd time going totally separate directions ...until this disconnect is solved....any additional resources will be wasted Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 63 - 26/11/2020 16:22:50 2315667 Link
Replying To Thelongwoodslasher: "im a bit of a broken record , giving out about CB , and look thats not fair to a lot of good people who are there or who have been there over the last number of years. And for me to just keep labelling the CB as clowns is totally wrong. . I do think at the root of it is a disconnect....call it even a mistrust...between administrators generally on the one side....and Management & players on the other...and very often it leads to really bad communication between both sides, and the odd time going totally separate directions ...until this disconnect is solved....any additional resources will be wasted" Call a spade a spade here. Is there others who want this job and just dragging it out leads to the shar well have to go with whats there already.is there a panel of lads waiting or is ger robinson getting things together has he full control of it.seems a very bit lapsed situation thats not adding up.you imagine we'd hear who in or out.being around gaa circles not a peep out of any camps.wasnt kevin reilly involved there hes with trim now.so someone has replace him.not adding up.any wonder we are behind the gain line all the time. Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 254 - 26/11/2020 17:58:14 2315694 Link
Replying To ABD09: "listening to Moyles on the OTB podcast during the week, he mentioned that the u20 manager for 2021 still wasn't in place, we gave ourselves no chance last year with Ger Robinson's team not getting started till mid December are we going to make the same mistakes again. we can give out about Dublin being so well funded but we have to get the basics right here in Meath and help ourselves? Being organised doesn't cost anything extra the Kildare & Dublin Management teams are all in place and have started" Absolutely spot on. Been saying it for years about under 20/21s. Management is as important as seniors for this grade. Its beyond a joke. Common sense doesn't cost millions! bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1668 - 26/11/2020 18:39:44 2315711 Link
It's where we are falling behind. At the 1998 age, we beat Dublin 1-18 to 2-5 at minor, 2 years later we lost to Dublin by 12 at under 20. At the 2000 age, we beat Dublin by 5 points twice, 3 years later Dublin beat us by 13. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that this is where we are going wrong. There needs to be a continuation from under 17 to 20 with under 18 and 19 development squads. Obviously not as full-on but just to get up to speed with S&C, professional attitude, extra skills practice. Along with emphasizing the importance of playing competitive 3rd level football if attending college and driving standards with your club. This isn't being done and it is failing talented players. We've another Leinster under 17 team playing under 20 next year and I have 0 faith that they would win Leinster. We have reached 1 Leinster under 20/21 final since 2001. Dublin have won 10 in that time (6 of the last 7) and 5 all Irelands on top of that. We need to fix this, it's the number 1 issue for the county teams at the minute. We have turned the tide at minor since 2016 we have 5 wins and 2 losses against Dublin at under 17/18. We have a team with Costello, Hickey, Mitchell, O'Hare, Sean Brennan, Jack Flynn, maybe Eoghan Fryane and Conor Gray. There's talent there but with no management team appointed yet it looks like we are failing them again LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 833 - 26/11/2020 20:43:55 2315751 Link
Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "It's where we are falling behind. At the 1998 age, we beat Dublin 1-18 to 2-5 at minor, 2 years later we lost to Dublin by 12 at under 20. At the 2000 age, we beat Dublin by 5 points twice, 3 years later Dublin beat us by 13. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that this is where we are going wrong. There needs to be a continuation from under 17 to 20 with under 18 and 19 development squads. Obviously not as full-on but just to get up to speed with S&C, professional attitude, extra skills practice. Along with emphasizing the importance of playing competitive 3rd level football if attending college and driving standards with your club. This isn't being done and it is failing talented players. We've another Leinster under 17 team playing under 20 next year and I have 0 faith that they would win Leinster. We have reached 1 Leinster under 20/21 final since 2001. Dublin have won 10 in that time (6 of the last 7) and 5 all Irelands on top of that. We need to fix this, it's the number 1 issue for the county teams at the minute. We have turned the tide at minor since 2016 we have 5 wins and 2 losses against Dublin at under 17/18. We have a team with Costello, Hickey, Mitchell, O'Hare, Sean Brennan, Jack Flynn, maybe Eoghan Fryane and Conor Gray. There's talent there but with no management team appointed yet it looks like we are failing them again" You are right that we need to keep continuation as much as possible with development squads from u17 through u18, u19 to u21. Its pretty sad that no one is even contesting the main roles in the County Board this year which means although the same mistakes were made last year among them, appointing Ger Robinson way too late, no one is interested in challenging for a spot at the top table or wanting to have a go at changing how things get done in Meath GAA. Meathball (Meath) - Posts: 28 - 26/11/2020 23:09:35 2315799 Link