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Andy McEntee Was Right To Tell A Reporter To Stick It

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Replying To Jackpot:  "1 journalist was doing his job
2 mcentee threatened violence
3 a good question was asked. Club is the heartbeat of gaa and players should be released"
1. Journalist asked a stupid question for whatever reason.
2. McEntee told him off as I'm sure many of us would have.
3. The Chronicle have gone on a spectacular witchhunt with complete disregard for the Meath team in order to sell papers.

Saldy they'll probably get their apology to.

.....and all this while we're preparing to try and make the last 8 for the first time since 2010, thanks Meath Chronicle, top form.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8583 - 26/06/2019 21:47:35    2201483

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Replying To Jackpot:  "1 journalist was doing his job
2 mcentee threatened violence
3 a good question was asked. Club is the heartbeat of gaa and players should be released"
Is it the players who make the decision?? So why ask manager??

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 26/06/2019 21:48:47    2201485

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Replying To royaldunne:  "According to the Meath county board. It is the players themselves who make the decision whether to play for club or not. So perhaps the journalist should have known this?"
Oh my god, that is some statement. The day that any club, hurling or football is asked to play a championship match without county players is the day the club game is finished. That statement is code for players being bullied by a county manager that if they play with club then they are out in the cold. Simonstown lads took a stand on this last year

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1338 - 26/06/2019 21:51:19    2201487

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Is it the players who make the decision?? So why ask manager??"
No manager makes decision really. If a player disregards the management order they will be dropped. Good question by journalist. Andy out of order. We got hammered

Jackpot (Meath) - Posts: 199 - 26/06/2019 22:00:45    2201493

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Replying To Analyst:  "Oh my god, that is some statement. The day that any club, hurling or football is asked to play a championship match without county players is the day the club game is finished. That statement is code for players being bullied by a county manager that if they play with club then they are out in the cold. Simonstown lads took a stand on this last year"
Postpone the hurling till the football is over. Simple. It's only hurling after all!

Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 26/06/2019 22:31:31    2201505

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Replying To Htaem:  "1. Journalist asked a stupid question for whatever reason.
2. McEntee told him off as I'm sure many of us would have.
3. The Chronicle have gone on a spectacular witchhunt with complete disregard for the Meath team in order to sell papers.

Saldy they'll probably get their apology to.

.....and all this while we're preparing to try and make the last 8 for the first time since 2010, thanks Meath Chronicle, top form."
Well said. I hope they don't get their apology. However I do sincerely hope that they can stop journalists from entering dressing room

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 26/06/2019 23:22:43    2201531

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Replying To Jackpot:  "No manager makes decision really. If a player disregards the management order they will be dropped. Good question by journalist. Andy out of order. We got hammered"
So it's what you say rather than what anyone else says. ?? Ok

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 26/06/2019 23:25:15    2201532

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Replying To Barney123:  "I am also very disappointed with the Meath Chronicle, thought they would have handled the whole situation a bit better. I also agree with many other people who think the reporter knew what he was doing. Listened to the podcast and he didn't even sound that knowledgeable/enthusiastic about Meath winning the Christy Ring.

Always only liked Fergal Lynch from the chronicle, he has a great knowledge of football within the county and always very positive.

And just to say this isn't Andy McEntee's fault, the Meath County board organised hurling championship fixtures one week after the Leinster final, something they knew we would most likely be in and lose so we would be playing 2 weeks later. Also they organised it for one week after the Christy Ring final, something most people also thought Meath would win.

It is hardly ideal for the clubs to have a week with their county players after them winning and then celebrating after it."
Real debate should be about the scheduling of the club hurling matches knowing quiet a few players in the football squad will be effected. It gives some clubs an advantage over others clubs.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 768 - 27/06/2019 02:14:53    2201546

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I actually think the timing is good and it takes the spotlight off the players performance against Dublin. Who knows it might even galvanise them. Tyrone and Dublin use any excuse to instill a siege mentality. Never does them any harm.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 27/06/2019 02:56:44    2201548

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Genuine qs...Which players are we talking about here?, Burke plays for Longwood hurlers obviously..... let him off. Mcgill and McMahon play for ratoath but they have some cop on so will be using their 2 weeks to recharge the batteries and prepare right rather then get bet up and down the field with a stick. Osullivan I'm fairly sure only plays for kiltale when the meath footballers are knocked out, same with donal keogan I think with tones. Maybe I'm missing something but I dont think the journalists question was even that relevant

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 709 - 27/06/2019 06:51:27    2201556

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "Genuine qs...Which players are we talking about here?, Burke plays for Longwood hurlers obviously..... let him off. Mcgill and McMahon play for ratoath but they have some cop on so will be using their 2 weeks to recharge the batteries and prepare right rather then get bet up and down the field with a stick. Osullivan I'm fairly sure only plays for kiltale when the meath footballers are knocked out, same with donal keogan I think with tones. Maybe I'm missing something but I dont think the journalists question was even that relevant"
Eoin Lynch plays for Longwood, Adam Flanagan for Kilyon and Ronan Ryan plays for kiltale.

I think the point some teams/clubs are making is that it's a savage kick in the teeth from the county board to fix these games knowing right well that they're putting dual players in an impossible position.

Longwood for example will likely be relegated if Mickey Burke and Lynch aren't released. You have to think of the club player who has probably been training for this championship since January only to be told days before the first round that they'll be without their two best players. Kiltale and Ratoath are probably the only two clubs strong enough to field without 2/3 key players.
Leagues and cup games are still to be played. Don't see why they couldn't be finished out until Meath are knocked out of the championship.

begining (UK) - Posts: 277 - 27/06/2019 10:19:05    2201605

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Replying To Htaem:  "1. Journalist asked a stupid question for whatever reason.
2. McEntee told him off as I'm sure many of us would have.
3. The Chronicle have gone on a spectacular witchhunt with complete disregard for the Meath team in order to sell papers.

Saldy they'll probably get their apology to.

.....and all this while we're preparing to try and make the last 8 for the first time since 2010, thanks Meath Chronicle, top form."
I suspect that the question was a bit of a set up ,given the reporter would have know the McAntee
attitude to Meath Hurling . To ask such a question in the immediate aftermath of the Dublin massacar
could have been seen as insensitive to say the least . On the general matter of player and Manager interviews ,I find then totally bland ( in all codes ) and will always reach for the off button as soon as I hear Brian Carthy ,or
Marty doing pre or post match interviews . The same old pious platitudes are spouted , usually about how tough the opposition was ,and how we always knew they would bring the game to us in the second half ! I even heard Gavin say he expects quote " meath will have a big say in this championship yet " ...This surly illustrates the stupidity of post match interviews and their relationship with reality . I say all this in the context of people saying that the Chronicle might not get access to player interviews ,in the light of this so called row . Perhaps this would be the silver lining ....read Graham comments in the chronicle this week ,and weep ....no mention of ballooning his 4 scoreable kicks wide ! Where the player insight in that . ? Beyond the announcement of Team selection. I find the majority of reportage useless and bland . So roll on Andy ,and thanks for your honest reaction to the question ...

noluso (Meath) - Posts: 151 - 27/06/2019 19:08:57    2201836

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I think we should be able to draw a line under this so and if it needs to be sorted it should be done behind closed doors like should have happened in the first place.
If we end up reading about it next week again then we know the flames were fanned for publicity and sensationalism at the expense of Meath GAA.

49erroyal (Meath) - Posts: 53 - 28/06/2019 10:17:30    2202012

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Replying To noluso:  "I suspect that the question was a bit of a set up ,given the reporter would have know the McAntee
attitude to Meath Hurling . To ask such a question in the immediate aftermath of the Dublin massacar
could have been seen as insensitive to say the least . On the general matter of player and Manager interviews ,I find then totally bland ( in all codes ) and will always reach for the off button as soon as I hear Brian Carthy ,or
Marty doing pre or post match interviews . The same old pious platitudes are spouted , usually about how tough the opposition was ,and how we always knew they would bring the game to us in the second half ! I even heard Gavin say he expects quote " meath will have a big say in this championship yet " ...This surly illustrates the stupidity of post match interviews and their relationship with reality . I say all this in the context of people saying that the Chronicle might not get access to player interviews ,in the light of this so called row . Perhaps this would be the silver lining ....read Graham comments in the chronicle this week ,and weep ....no mention of ballooning his 4 scoreable kicks wide ! Where the player insight in that . ? Beyond the announcement of Team selection. I find the majority of reportage useless and bland . So roll on Andy ,and thanks for your honest reaction to the question ..."
Your point about reporters only asking bland non sensical questions is correct.

Yet here we have a reporter asking a question that quite a number of Meath supporters are interested in - will the dual players be released to play hurling for their clubs? There is a very significant hurling following in this county.

It could be argued that the reporter should have realised that Andy might be a little touchy after the game. However, touchy or non touchy it was a question people like me (who paid €105 for 3 tickets on Sunday) are interested in hearing. I am also old school in that I do buy the chronicle especially around GAA time and I found the coverage of this weeks games excellent.

I think Andy's initial reaction where he obviously smarted at the question was fair enough. However, to say what he did in front of players and officials was out of line in my opinion and does not show him in a good light at all. To use the threat f physical violence to someone doing their job like he did and then deprived the supporters of interviews etc is very much to be condemned.

However, if Andy had apologised then this could have been forgotten about and the Chronicle said that they wait and requested an apology but none was forthcoming.

In my opinion this is unprecedented and the reporter and the Chronicle have been covering Meath GAA at all levels for over 100 years. The editor obviously discussed this with the sports team and came to the conclusion hat this was worth taking a stand on. The editor has to consider all of their reported at other games, courts, community events etc and sometimes you need to take a stand no matter how popular the person they are in the dispute with is.

I would go as far to say that, without some apology or meeting of minds on this, if the chronicle's relationship is broken down with Meath GAA and the manager stands by his abusive and violent comments then the position of the manager could become untenable and this should be a significant factor in any decision to continue with him after the All Ireland series completes for Meath.

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 28/06/2019 11:04:05    2202030

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Replying To oldsam_newsam:  "Your point about reporters only asking bland non sensical questions is correct.

Yet here we have a reporter asking a question that quite a number of Meath supporters are interested in - will the dual players be released to play hurling for their clubs? There is a very significant hurling following in this county.

It could be argued that the reporter should have realised that Andy might be a little touchy after the game. However, touchy or non touchy it was a question people like me (who paid €105 for 3 tickets on Sunday) are interested in hearing. I am also old school in that I do buy the chronicle especially around GAA time and I found the coverage of this weeks games excellent.

I think Andy's initial reaction where he obviously smarted at the question was fair enough. However, to say what he did in front of players and officials was out of line in my opinion and does not show him in a good light at all. To use the threat f physical violence to someone doing their job like he did and then deprived the supporters of interviews etc is very much to be condemned.

However, if Andy had apologised then this could have been forgotten about and the Chronicle said that they wait and requested an apology but none was forthcoming.

In my opinion this is unprecedented and the reporter and the Chronicle have been covering Meath GAA at all levels for over 100 years. The editor obviously discussed this with the sports team and came to the conclusion hat this was worth taking a stand on. The editor has to consider all of their reported at other games, courts, community events etc and sometimes you need to take a stand no matter how popular the person they are in the dispute with is.

I would go as far to say that, without some apology or meeting of minds on this, if the chronicle's relationship is broken down with Meath GAA and the manager stands by his abusive and violent comments then the position of the manager could become untenable and this should be a significant factor in any decision to continue with him after the All Ireland series completes for Meath."
To quote another regular poster here
"Well said"

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1338 - 28/06/2019 11:24:27    2202035

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Replying To oldsam_newsam:  "Your point about reporters only asking bland non sensical questions is correct.

Yet here we have a reporter asking a question that quite a number of Meath supporters are interested in - will the dual players be released to play hurling for their clubs? There is a very significant hurling following in this county.

It could be argued that the reporter should have realised that Andy might be a little touchy after the game. However, touchy or non touchy it was a question people like me (who paid €105 for 3 tickets on Sunday) are interested in hearing. I am also old school in that I do buy the chronicle especially around GAA time and I found the coverage of this weeks games excellent.

I think Andy's initial reaction where he obviously smarted at the question was fair enough. However, to say what he did in front of players and officials was out of line in my opinion and does not show him in a good light at all. To use the threat f physical violence to someone doing their job like he did and then deprived the supporters of interviews etc is very much to be condemned.

However, if Andy had apologised then this could have been forgotten about and the Chronicle said that they wait and requested an apology but none was forthcoming.

In my opinion this is unprecedented and the reporter and the Chronicle have been covering Meath GAA at all levels for over 100 years. The editor obviously discussed this with the sports team and came to the conclusion hat this was worth taking a stand on. The editor has to consider all of their reported at other games, courts, community events etc and sometimes you need to take a stand no matter how popular the person they are in the dispute with is.

I would go as far to say that, without some apology or meeting of minds on this, if the chronicle's relationship is broken down with Meath GAA and the manager stands by his abusive and violent comments then the position of the manager could become untenable and this should be a significant factor in any decision to continue with him after the All Ireland series completes for Meath."
well said. to threaten physical violence and then refuse to apologise is unacceptable.
realistically county board will do nothing about it

overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 28/06/2019 12:19:11    2202052

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Replying To Analyst:  "To quote another regular poster here
"Well said""
is anyone really shocked!!!!

Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 28/06/2019 12:31:18    2202055

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Replying To Analyst:  "To quote another regular poster here
"Well said""
Analyst............Yes "Well Said" again. In all probability i think there will be a very significant review of all matters both on and off the pitch at the end of our championship season. The Meath Chronicle could have handled that quietly in the background ! More importantly look at the distracting effect this has on our players......I suppose some people will still wonder why some players walk away !! It appears to me they are very patient men to say the least!! P.S. Well done and congratulations to both our hurlers and junior footballers on their achievements.!!!

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 841 - 28/06/2019 12:31:20    2202056

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I know the reporter fairly well and he is a gentleman. I feel he is mortified by all the latest goings on and that this spat with Andy McEntee is being pushed from other sectors, it is not his doing. Also it seems that the hurling brigade in the county are starting to change the argument into a hurling versus football debate. I know that most people associated with football in Meath were thrilled at the hurlers big win in Croke Park. However the even bigger point is that the weekend after next Meath footballers face their biggest game in years. It is so important for the GAA in the county and by that I stress all forms of GAA, that the footballers make it into the Super 8s. Time to put any differences aside and let us all row in with Andy and the boys.

Triple H (Meath) - Posts: 551 - 28/06/2019 13:07:14    2202069

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If anyone thinks Andy's position is under threat because of this then they are not living in the real world. I've spoken to a lot of people about it. It is a topic of conversation and a lot of people knew of the row before it made the paper. i wasn't sure what way people would go, but nearly everyone I spoke to backed McEntee which surprised me. I think with the county under fire from a lot of outsiders, people tend to circle the wagons which is what is happening here.
Personally I think Andy was out of order and should apologise but I think the Chronicle were wrong to make the big thing about it. I think they had it on three different sections of the paper. At the same time it is a great story so you have to see their view. Paper sales are falling all the time and they have gone tabloid to survive. They probably would have ran the story even if Andy said sorry as they have jobs to keep going.

Roger (Meath) - Posts: 400 - 28/06/2019 13:27:21    2202073

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