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Replying To royaldunne: "Not a hope of changing me. And you right I don't give a boiled s###e what anyone thinks of , especially on a forum. That been said nothing pleases me more than the red thumbs, the more I get the more I know I am annoying people (hoping for at least 7 on this one. Been like this all my life.
But you have given me a idea about the plane !!!!! . Lightbulb." Typical Meathman, loves being hated :D
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7772 - 17/06/2019 18:35:32
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Replying To Young_gael: "As a point of interest, how do you lads think Meath will approach the game tactically? Will they sit back and try defend as tigerishly as possible around the 45 metre - D area as teams such as Tyrone and Donegal have tried? Then try to strike on the counter if possible through the half-backs (our biggest threat) at pace, will they go man-to-man and have a jaunt old fashioned style, as particularly Mayo and Kerry have done in recent years past? Will they try implement the use of early long ball to Newman, Conlon, Dardis, O'Reilly up front as in the movement that led to the goal v. Donegal from the league final, the same old school high ball tactic gave Kildare opportunity which they didnt capitalise upon... will they be instructed to tear lumps out of them early to disrupt the game as much as possible and rattle cages? obviously most of these elements are present in recent months in this Meath side but can be less or more prevalent depending on the opposition. Will they allow Dublin to keep possession up until the point-scoring danger zone and filter back to apply pressure or will they contest all areas of the pitch, as Ive seen Meath do both depending on the opposition ? What will the actual plan be?" Knowing the team would help and tell more. But If Haran plays 6 it should free Keoghan to push forward with Ryan hopefully as sweeper.
Personally I dont think we going abandon our game plan that has got this far for the Dublin Ie everyone goes 1/1 or anything like that, I think that would be crazy. I think might do both ie we will keep it tight 20 minutes or so then depending where then we could go for it.
The thing I like about the team now lads are getting plenty of experience/game time Harnan (hopefully he plays ) Conlon Flanagan have all got game time since the league. Also any possible subs that might come will not weaken the team. Eoin Lynch, Barry Dardis, Ethan Devine, Daragh Campion. Biggy, Sean Tobin etc. this is important as Dublin far superior bench. but it will be important we try keep at the level we are capable of playing at. Last year I would have feared subs coming might weaken the team. Not this year its a toss of coin between allot players.
bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1192 - 17/06/2019 19:18:51
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Replying To realdub: "Typical Meathman, loves being hated :D" Oh yeah. Thrive on it :)
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 17/06/2019 20:13:14
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Replying To Ratoath Royal: "To be fair, we get ahead early and Dublin will reel us in (unless we go unrealistically far ahead). We went 8 up early on against Donegal and couldn't get the job done and I'd wager that Dublin would easily beat them. On the other hand, we keep it competitive for 50-60 minutes and we're dealing with the fittest team in the country who have scored 4-9 and 15 points in the second half of their two games and can kick points from pretty much any angle inside the 45.
I've no doubt the players will give it their all and that's literally all any of us can ask of them. But whatever way you look at it, I don't see how anyone can foresee us winning unfortunately." Totally agree, all we have to go on is our three championship games todate, I saw nothing in these games to suggest we can beat Dublin next week. We have not experienced the intensity and skill level the Dubs will bring, in second half of league final Donegal upped their game and left us for dead. This is why the super 8s and Division one is so important to this group of Meath players, they can train and train but nothing will prepare them until they start playing the top teams on a regular basis. I expect a cautious approch from management, attempt to stay with Dublin for as long as possible and hopefully we are still in it with 15 min to go. As you said I am confident that every player will give it their all and hopefully we get a good crowd to cheer them on.
seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 1432 - 17/06/2019 20:21:08
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As much as I'd love to see us win on Sunday I cant !! Sadly I dont even see us getting close .
Apart from 25 minutes against Donegal I haven't seen anything this year to suggest we can compete with Dublin and I have been at most games .
I believe Colgan will struggle massively Sunday he has proven to be a decent shot stopper but his kickouts are way off what is required against a team like Dublin and I believe McEntees faith in him will back fire Sunday .
If we set up Sunday the way we did against Laois and Offaly we will be hammered Dublin will destroy us .
After 15 minutes against Laois we had 1 point on the board we didn't score for over 15 minutes at the start of the second half both of these periods of play were dominated by Laois they didn't score the Dubs will .
Offaly totally dominated the first 25 minutes of the second half in Navan this is time of the game Dublin are ruthless .
The gap between our defence and forward line is to wide too often we get players isolated coming forward if we dont support the players breaking with the ball Dublin will turn us over all day.
Theres no place for Flanagan in Croke Park and thats not a personal insult its sadly fact we need runners around the middle on Sunday than can get forward when we attack but also get back when they break I would start 2 of 3 if all fit McEntee , Devine , Harnan I would take out McCoy and Flanagan .
Unless Conlon gets a bit more support than he did against laois I cant see him getting much ball against Dublin .
I've no doubt he's a great player but personally I think against the better teams he will struggle because of his size .
Newman has to stay closer to goal he has a habit of wandering and ends up in no man's land. He was outstanding against Donegal when he stayed in he must do the same Sunday.
I have watched Meath v Dublin in every game since 1983 I admire the optimistic people on here but I have always being a realist and I fear what is coming Sunday .
This Meath team have trained hard since January to gain promotion they are coming up against a fresh team the best team ever in football who only starting serious training when the league finished .
I'm a gambler but wouldn't back against Meath but if I did Dublin - 12 at evens is serious bet .
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lads its a farce we all know it. im goin to the junior game and ill be only half interested in the second game ill support the lads but its only going through the motions , we need to get this sham over and done with and focus on the qualifier game a fortnight later. it wont even be woth analysing
dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 532 - 17/06/2019 22:33:12
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Replying To mmc: "As much as I'd love to see us win on Sunday I cant !! Sadly I dont even see us getting close .
Apart from 25 minutes against Donegal I haven't seen anything this year to suggest we can compete with Dublin and I have been at most games .
I believe Colgan will struggle massively Sunday he has proven to be a decent shot stopper but his kickouts are way off what is required against a team like Dublin and I believe McEntees faith in him will back fire Sunday .
If we set up Sunday the way we did against Laois and Offaly we will be hammered Dublin will destroy us .
After 15 minutes against Laois we had 1 point on the board we didn't score for over 15 minutes at the start of the second half both of these periods of play were dominated by Laois they didn't score the Dubs will .
Offaly totally dominated the first 25 minutes of the second half in Navan this is time of the game Dublin are ruthless .
The gap between our defence and forward line is to wide too often we get players isolated coming forward if we dont support the players breaking with the ball Dublin will turn us over all day.
Theres no place for Flanagan in Croke Park and thats not a personal insult its sadly fact we need runners around the middle on Sunday than can get forward when we attack but also get back when they break I would start 2 of 3 if all fit McEntee , Devine , Harnan I would take out McCoy and Flanagan .
Unless Conlon gets a bit more support than he did against laois I cant see him getting much ball against Dublin .
I've no doubt he's a great player but personally I think against the better teams he will struggle because of his size .
Newman has to stay closer to goal he has a habit of wandering and ends up in no man's land. He was outstanding against Donegal when he stayed in he must do the same Sunday.
I have watched Meath v Dublin in every game since 1983 I admire the optimistic people on here but I have always being a realist and I fear what is coming Sunday .
This Meath team have trained hard since January to gain promotion they are coming up against a fresh team the best team ever in football who only starting serious training when the league finished .
I'm a gambler but wouldn't back against Meath but if I did Dublin - 12 at evens is serious bet ." do we really need supporters like you, na I don't think so
meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 459 - 17/06/2019 22:33:25
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Is it just me or is there no hype around the county. Makes me sad thinking of all those years when we'd proper build ups to these finals.
Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 17/06/2019 22:58:09
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Replying To waynoI: "exactly this.
very talented, you have to be to get into a senior ic team at 20.
But Dublin will be sayin, don't stop him when he has the ball, don't allow him to get it in the first place.
what you say is exactly how I see it going, Dublin will own the ball, Meath will try keep it tight, Newman and conlon will be totally isolated, Dublin will sweep up every attack, will have very few wides themselves, be economical in possession, manage the game, and dispose of the meath challenge like they've disposed of most challenges in the past 5 years.
All the chat about Meath starting well and trying to make Dublin worry, fine, do it... Noone will be worrying, Weve gone 0-06 to 0-01 down in an all Ireland final last year against a much better team, and comfortably battered them. We conceded 3 goals v Kerry in 2013 in the first half of an all Ireland semi final, came back and beat them. We where 4 down in an all Ireland final a few years ago against Mayo midway through the second half and beat them. These lads will expect a fast Meath start, and wont be swayed by conceding a goal.
Just like the league final against Donegal, If meath get a good lead, Dublin will just keep believing in the process. How will Meath react if they concede a goal or two early doors though, when was the last time they came up against a top D1 team in the summer in croke park ? you may be running around like rabid dogs for the first 20 minutes, you might throw a few digs, act the tough lads, but the dubs are far far too streetwise for that carry on. And my confidence stems from watching Dublin all year every year home and away, and the fact there is no way jim gavin wont give Meath his and his teams, time. Dublin will learn more about Meath in 2 weeks than any ordinary match going fan like myself, RD etc would learn in a couple of months.
For all the talk about being ready for Dublin, the best team of all time will be more than ready too" The best team of all time? What about the Cavan team of 3125AD or the mighty eight in a row Leitrim team of 11168653AD? Slightly premature lad especially given the fact that this Dublin 'team' has changed so much since its 2015 iteration nevermind its 2011 iteration.
LobinstownMan (Meath) - Posts: 119 - 17/06/2019 22:59:27
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Replying To meath1977: "do we really need supporters like you, na I don't think so" Ha ha I expected royaldunne to bite first after all the delusional posts I read I actually had to look at the calendar to see if I was in a coma for a couple of years .
Count the number of kickouts we lose on Sunday this hasn't been addressed all year and will be our main down fall Sunday guarantee.
Dublin are 1/50 to win Sunday thats a sad reflection on what's happend to football in general if you are offended by my opinion that we will lose by more than 12 points I'm sorry but I've seen nothing this year apart from 25 minutes to suggest otherwise and we did lose the remainder of that game by 10 points .
I will attend on Sunday and if we keep it to a single figure beating it'll be a moral victory in my eyes and if believing we can win makes you a better supporter good luck to you .
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Replying To mmc: "As much as I'd love to see us win on Sunday I cant !! Sadly I dont even see us getting close .
Apart from 25 minutes against Donegal I haven't seen anything this year to suggest we can compete with Dublin and I have been at most games .
I believe Colgan will struggle massively Sunday he has proven to be a decent shot stopper but his kickouts are way off what is required against a team like Dublin and I believe McEntees faith in him will back fire Sunday .
If we set up Sunday the way we did against Laois and Offaly we will be hammered Dublin will destroy us .
After 15 minutes against Laois we had 1 point on the board we didn't score for over 15 minutes at the start of the second half both of these periods of play were dominated by Laois they didn't score the Dubs will .
Offaly totally dominated the first 25 minutes of the second half in Navan this is time of the game Dublin are ruthless .
The gap between our defence and forward line is to wide too often we get players isolated coming forward if we dont support the players breaking with the ball Dublin will turn us over all day.
Theres no place for Flanagan in Croke Park and thats not a personal insult its sadly fact we need runners around the middle on Sunday than can get forward when we attack but also get back when they break I would start 2 of 3 if all fit McEntee , Devine , Harnan I would take out McCoy and Flanagan .
Unless Conlon gets a bit more support than he did against laois I cant see him getting much ball against Dublin .
I've no doubt he's a great player but personally I think against the better teams he will struggle because of his size .
Newman has to stay closer to goal he has a habit of wandering and ends up in no man's land. He was outstanding against Donegal when he stayed in he must do the same Sunday.
I have watched Meath v Dublin in every game since 1983 I admire the optimistic people on here but I have always being a realist and I fear what is coming Sunday .
This Meath team have trained hard since January to gain promotion they are coming up against a fresh team the best team ever in football who only starting serious training when the league finished .
I'm a gambler but wouldn't back against Meath but if I did Dublin - 12 at evens is serious bet ." Well said, ya want meath to win, hope they pull something off but realise it's probably a non runner
southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 709 - 18/06/2019 07:08:21
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Replying To Jack_Goff: "Is it just me or is there no hype around the county. Makes me sad thinking of all those years when we'd proper build ups to these finals." The hype is starting to build around my way jack, there's people going that havnt been to a meath game in years and I'm beginning to see the green and gold flags coming out to, but your claiming you know what the scoreline is going to be which might explain why your not getting excited.
Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 461 - 18/06/2019 09:25:08
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Replying To Meathmaverick: "Wayno what is your deal lad ? why do you feel the need to come on here and dissect every post.
You obviously know your football and can be hilarious with some of your posts but jesus in your last few posts on here come across unbelievably arrogant.
On one hand you say you respect that some meath fans believe we can win but then you go onto basically belittle any post that suggests meath have a chance.
I do understand there are some delusional meath fans here and i agree with you on the over the top building up of conlon but this is a forum so there is obvioulsy going to be 100s of different opinions varying from sensible to bizarre.
Myself i dont think Meath have much hope on Sunday, I think we'll struggle to cover the handicap but i'll still be there. and from now until then the old romantic in me will try and find a way of Meath beating the Dubs in my head.
Of course you as well are entitled to your opinion on Sunday and im not knocking that , Its more the arrogance of the posts and the condescending attitude towards the hope of others. All comes across very imperialistic." Well, Dublin are playing Meath, so it is the best time to come on a Meath forum and get a feel for how Meath fans feel.
I wasn't trying to be arrogant, I was just giving a realistic assessment from my POV and from reading back I can see how it comes across as arrogant. I think youll find its the delusional posts I get back to though. You have actually replied to me and basically said you agree with everything I say, apart from it coming across as imperialistic, that wasn't my intention. So apologies for how it came across.
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13574 - 18/06/2019 11:47:14
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Replying To Crinigan: "Very insecure. Might have some issues as apparently he lives in Meath. Why doesn't he just live in Dublin?" Why doesn't every Polish person live in Poland?, Why doesn't every Kerry person live in Kerry etc. Why doesn't every Irish person live in Ireland ? Ehhhh Reckon money has a bit to do with it as a starting point.
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13574 - 18/06/2019 11:54:03
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the only way we can even come close is by going man to man like mayo have done in previous years and pushing up on kick outs , we need to play in the forwards like we did against Donegal in croker , one thing is though that our lads will relish this more so than ever before , you won't see nerves as their is absolutely no pressure on us , a 15 point defeat or more would be extremely damaging to the group and it's what most expect.
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Replying To waynoI: "Why doesn't every Polish person live in Poland?, Why doesn't every Kerry person live in Kerry etc. Why doesn't every Irish person live in Ireland ? Ehhhh Reckon money has a bit to do with it as a starting point." Yeah but did you integrate into local club? I live in Westmeath and are very much involved in the local club.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 18/06/2019 12:58:45
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Replying To Royal.Legend: "The hype is starting to build around my way jack, there's people going that havnt been to a meath game in years and I'm beginning to see the green and gold flags coming out to, but your claiming you know what the scoreline is going to be which might explain why your not getting excited." Out home yesterday, the flags are up , and fierce excitement, as you said people going that haven't gone in years.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 18/06/2019 13:01:58
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Replying To mmc: "Ha ha I expected royaldunne to bite first after all the delusional posts I read I actually had to look at the calendar to see if I was in a coma for a couple of years .
Count the number of kickouts we lose on Sunday this hasn't been addressed all year and will be our main down fall Sunday guarantee.
Dublin are 1/50 to win Sunday thats a sad reflection on what's happend to football in general if you are offended by my opinion that we will lose by more than 12 points I'm sorry but I've seen nothing this year apart from 25 minutes to suggest otherwise and we did lose the remainder of that game by 10 points .
I will attend on Sunday and if we keep it to a single figure beating it'll be a moral victory in my eyes and if believing we can win makes you a better supporter good luck to you ." Meath are in a Leinster final. we have a good young team. support the team . stop with your defeated views, how much we are going to lose , this is a very special Dublin team who have hammered everyone over the last six or seven years. so if we lose by 15 twenty points we are in good company. we will go believing we can win and have a good cut off them. hit them hard and make them work for every score. and see where that takes up. stay at home if you think we have no hope and can't win
meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 459 - 18/06/2019 13:25:19
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Replying To royaldunne: "Yeah but did you integrate into local club? I live in Westmeath and are very much involved in the local club." Oh right so if you live in an area you've to be associated with that club do you ? Is that all sports in that area or what ? Do you associate with you local soccer rugby gaa golf etc etc club? Do you go to league of Ireland games for your most local club ?
Why do you live in westmeath ? Why dont you move back home ? Serious question. You're living in a neighbouring county just like I am but support the one you're from.
The question I was asked is why do I live in meath, I also asked a question to cringan, yourself or anyone else, why do all polish people not live in Poland. Why dont all Irish people live in Ireland. Should we send all the Irish people in America, London, Asia, Australia etc home ?
Where I live has nothing to do with talking about the football, I'm certainly not insecure about living in meath, I do get more insecure when people try to have cheap little digs about my resident and circumstances around it.
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Young Conan great potential but it's when his man leaves him and goes up the field is where we will b caught for gaps. Newman the same if not tracking it will b like the Offaly game only dublin will b ruthless.we were caught out then with lads running from deep.its a tough ask to beat the dubs but the closer we get to them will give us confidence goin forward.
Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 18/06/2019 15:28:45
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