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Replying To Dalriada:  "Alan Douglas still Trims best player?? Enough said...…….great player in his day but his best ones are behind him IMO."
Fairly sure the lad is 29, you are talking about him as if he's 36...

Meathman678 (Meath) - Posts: 55 - 12/09/2019 22:27:24    2234895

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Replying To Meathman678:  "Fairly sure the lad is 29, you are talking about him as if he's 36..."
Nothing to do with his age, I just think his best days are behind him, that's all.

Dalriada (Meath) - Posts: 39 - 16/09/2019 12:06:08    2236029

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Replying To Dalriada:  "Nothing to do with his age, I just think his best days are behind him, that's all."
Alan Douglas has found a new lease of life this season since moving into FF this season, playing with young Aaron Lynch seems to have put life back into the old dog

meathareclass (Meath) - Posts: 15 - 18/09/2019 15:48:10    2237186

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Trim v Duleek/Bellewstown Trim by 2
Nobber v Ballinbrackey or Walterstown bracks to beat nobber by 2
Dunderry v Oldcastle Oldcastle by 3
Meath Hill v Castletown Meath Hill by 1

overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 19/09/2019 08:43:11    2237446

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I think there is too much talk about Alan Douglas etc for Trim.
For me all Trim need to do is turn up on Saturday week and they will be assured of a win.
The real question is will they play BB in the final? This is the best Trim team we have seen for years and winning it all is well within their ability.

quincyadams (Meath) - Posts: 7 - 19/09/2019 11:54:05    2237501

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Replying To quincyadams:  "I think there is too much talk about Alan Douglas etc for Trim.
For me all Trim need to do is turn up on Saturday week and they will be assured of a win.
The real question is will they play BB in the final? This is the best Trim team we have seen for years and winning it all is well within their ability."
Trim need to turn up for 60 minutes to beat a very good Duleek team. Trim are leaking goals and this is something Duleek can exploit. the Trim backs need to tighten up if they are to win the championship. there forwards work-rate is very poor espeacillay the no.10 who is a former county hurler

meathareclass (Meath) - Posts: 15 - 19/09/2019 12:12:03    2237510

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Trim footballers in recent times have lost a number of games that they should have won. They should have won an SFC in the early 200's but couldnt get over the line. In recent years Dunderry, Longwood etc have taken them in Championship knockout. So the game vs Duleek/ Bellewstown is very much down to which teams wants it most & plays better on the day.

Trim hurlers on the other hand seem to win games they should have lost like the game vs Ratoath at the weekend.

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 19/09/2019 13:05:03    2237534

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I think the return of Paddy Kennelly and Simon Carty to Dunderry is massive and they should be considered favorites because of this.

Meath Hill are my dark horses very well organised hard working side who all play for each-other, no flashy superstars. There 10 point group phase win over Oldcastle was very impressive.

meathareclass (Meath) - Posts: 15 - 19/09/2019 14:46:13    2237575

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Replying To meathareclass:  "Trim need to turn up for 60 minutes to beat a very good Duleek team. Trim are leaking goals and this is something Duleek can exploit. the Trim backs need to tighten up if they are to win the championship. there forwards work-rate is very poor espeacillay the no.10 who is a former county hurler"
They qualified comfortably from their group playing within themselves.
This arguably bodes well for the rest of the knockout games, Brendan Murphy is a shrewd operator and will have the lads primed for a good crack at the title.
Duleek have performed poorly since making the drop down and correct me if I am wrong but they haven't beaten a genuine Intermediate contender yet.

quincyadams (Meath) - Posts: 7 - 19/09/2019 14:50:11    2237580

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Replying To overthehill72:  "Trim v Duleek/Bellewstown Trim by 2
Nobber v Ballinbrackey or Walterstown bracks to beat nobber by 2
Dunderry v Oldcastle Oldcastle by 3
Meath Hill v Castletown Meath Hill by 1"
Trim v DB - Trim by 8
Nobber v Bracks / Walt - Bracks to beat both by 3
Dunderry v Oldcastle - Dunderry by the minimum
Meath Hill v Castletown - Meath Hill by 2

From a good bit out it is looking like a Trim Bracks final, with Trim coming out on top. Bracks have had lots of chances.

royal_realist (Meath) - Posts: 11 - 21/09/2019 07:18:14    2237988

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Trim
Dunderry
Castletown
Nobber

boeder (Meath) - Posts: 53 - 21/09/2019 12:36:04    2238037

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So the bracks are out of this year's championship

end2end (Meath) - Posts: 6 - 21/09/2019 19:17:21    2238109

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Replying To end2end:  "So the bracks are out of this year's championship"
What a shock. Walterstown should be confident now that they have taken the strongest team out of that side of the draw. Apparently, they are missing their strongest forward too in young O'Connell.

Trim v Walterstown final? Two stalwarts of Meath football.

royal_realist (Meath) - Posts: 11 - 21/09/2019 21:19:20    2238138

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Really don't understand the Ballinabrackey love in that goes on in this forum with. They were beaten twice in group stage, scraped past a depleted Michaels team in last group game and rely on the same 2/3 players to win games for them. Walterstown missed 3 goal chances and should have won comfortably yesterday. I can't see any facts that back up they are the strongest team in that side of the draw?? Fancy Nobber to beat Walterstown next weekend too.

boeder (Meath) - Posts: 53 - 22/09/2019 08:30:34    2238180

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Replying To boeder:  "Really don't understand the Ballinabrackey love in that goes on in this forum with. They were beaten twice in group stage, scraped past a depleted Michaels team in last group game and rely on the same 2/3 players to win games for them. Walterstown missed 3 goal chances and should have won comfortably yesterday. I can't see any facts that back up they are the strongest team in that side of the draw?? Fancy Nobber to beat Walterstown next weekend too."
I must have been at a different game than you, i don't remember any goal chances, one maybe after a bad pass from a bracks player but neither team looked like scoring a goal, walterstown deserved the win however on their second half performance, will be surprised if they go any further, the worst bracks played all year.

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 856 - 22/09/2019 10:12:45    2238203

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Replying To end2end:  "So the bracks are out of this year's championship"
Not sure it will happen ( objection ) but the referee made a dreadful howler yesterday by chalking off a bracks point and going back to hop the ball and red carding a bracks player, you simply cannot allow play to continue for a minute and then decide to go back after consultation from a very inexperienced linesman, colm mc manus is a fine referee and had a good game yesterday but this is a mistake from the referee and the bracks could be entitled to question the incident, the winning margin was one point and if the it is deemed an error from the referee what could happen ? if the bracks put in an objection it would be very interesting to hear what the referee was thinking. Never seen anything like it before and i am fairly confident if the referee allows the game to continue and a score is converted he cannot chalk it off, he can go back and red card the player but not disallow the score.

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 856 - 22/09/2019 10:36:54    2238207

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Replying To thelutch:  "Not sure it will happen ( objection ) but the referee made a dreadful howler yesterday by chalking off a bracks point and going back to hop the ball and red carding a bracks player, you simply cannot allow play to continue for a minute and then decide to go back after consultation from a very inexperienced linesman, colm mc manus is a fine referee and had a good game yesterday but this is a mistake from the referee and the bracks could be entitled to question the incident, the winning margin was one point and if the it is deemed an error from the referee what could happen ? if the bracks put in an objection it would be very interesting to hear what the referee was thinking. Never seen anything like it before and i am fairly confident if the referee allows the game to continue and a score is converted he cannot chalk it off, he can go back and red card the player but not disallow the score."
The only dreadful howler here wasnt from the referee but from the Ballinabrackey player lashing out after he had won a free and losing his team a man when the game was in the mix.

The linesman had signaled to call the referee back to an incident where a Ballinbrackey player had struck a Walterstown player. As the linesman had called it the referee is perfectly entitled to recall play to the point of the foul.

To be more specific on your point there is absolutely nothing in the rules specifically stating any score cannot be ruled out so id like to see where in the referees hand book you got this

Also to then say you could object to the result of a game and look for a replay is laughable, rather than blaming the referee maybe have a look at your clubs discipline as that is what cost you the result.

highking12 (Meath) - Posts: 184 - 22/09/2019 12:26:15    2238223

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Replying To highking12:  "The only dreadful howler here wasnt from the referee but from the Ballinabrackey player lashing out after he had won a free and losing his team a man when the game was in the mix.

The linesman had signaled to call the referee back to an incident where a Ballinbrackey player had struck a Walterstown player. As the linesman had called it the referee is perfectly entitled to recall play to the point of the foul.

To be more specific on your point there is absolutely nothing in the rules specifically stating any score cannot be ruled out so id like to see where in the referees hand book you got this

Also to then say you could object to the result of a game and look for a replay is laughable, rather than blaming the referee maybe have a look at your clubs discipline as that is what cost you the result."
lashing out !! well im glad you seen it as that because he didn't strike, i would say the tackle on the bracks keeper was probably the worst tackle in the game, it was not a dirty game at all, the linesman didn't know what he was doing as he had jack Gordan behind him shouting at him every 30 seconds, the young lad completely lost his nerve. Can we agree that the referee allowed the game to continue and he seen what everyone else seen ? I am not sure there will be an objection but you cannot allow play to continue for a minute, allow a score and just before a kickout take advice from a linesman who seen what colm mc manus seen and go back for a hop ball. I have never seen it before in all my years watching sport, now lets be clear on one thing, walterstown deserved their victory on their second half display, i am certain the game was videoed so IF there is an objection im sure it will clear it up, i spoke to three referees today and they all said the same thing, you cant allow play to continue and have a team to score and then go back and disallow it for something off the ball (allegedly) he didn't see, but im sure you can agree it was a complete mess and a mistake from the officials. I was chatting a friend of mine from walterstown coming out ( darren kearney ) and he said the very same thing regarding the incident, the referee made a huge mistake in disallowing the score but your right i don't know the exact rules.

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 856 - 22/09/2019 13:19:04    2238237

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Replying To thelutch:  "lashing out !! well im glad you seen it as that because he didn't strike, i would say the tackle on the bracks keeper was probably the worst tackle in the game, it was not a dirty game at all, the linesman didn't know what he was doing as he had jack Gordan behind him shouting at him every 30 seconds, the young lad completely lost his nerve. Can we agree that the referee allowed the game to continue and he seen what everyone else seen ? I am not sure there will be an objection but you cannot allow play to continue for a minute, allow a score and just before a kickout take advice from a linesman who seen what colm mc manus seen and go back for a hop ball. I have never seen it before in all my years watching sport, now lets be clear on one thing, walterstown deserved their victory on their second half display, i am certain the game was videoed so IF there is an objection im sure it will clear it up, i spoke to three referees today and they all said the same thing, you cant allow play to continue and have a team to score and then go back and disallow it for something off the ball (allegedly) he didn't see, but im sure you can agree it was a complete mess and a mistake from the officials. I was chatting a friend of mine from walterstown coming out ( darren kearney ) and he said the very same thing regarding the incident, the referee made a huge mistake in disallowing the score but your right i don't know the exact rules."
Ah Lutch, come on, I know you are a Bracks die hard but surely you can be honest here. The Walterstown player clattered Carroll and he won his free. He popped up and swung for the Walterstown man connecting with him in the face then proceeded to take the free in which the Bracks point came from. The linesman put his flag up straight away after the incident but the ref did not see it until the ball went dead. He consulted with his linesman, gave the red card, disallowed the score then brought it back for a hop ball correctly in my opinion. If the ref and linesman had been mik'd up he would have been able to tell the ref straight away but he didn't see the flag up until the ball went dead as I said. This is what the neutrals seen and what the video recording will confirm.

boeder (Meath) - Posts: 53 - 22/09/2019 14:28:12    2238254

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Replying To boeder:  "Ah Lutch, come on, I know you are a Bracks die hard but surely you can be honest here. The Walterstown player clattered Carroll and he won his free. He popped up and swung for the Walterstown man connecting with him in the face then proceeded to take the free in which the Bracks point came from. The linesman put his flag up straight away after the incident but the ref did not see it until the ball went dead. He consulted with his linesman, gave the red card, disallowed the score then brought it back for a hop ball correctly in my opinion. If the ref and linesman had been mik'd up he would have been able to tell the ref straight away but he didn't see the flag up until the ball went dead as I said. This is what the neutrals seen and what the video recording will confirm."
How did colm mac manus not see it then boeder ? we will agree to disagree sure

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 856 - 22/09/2019 15:00:17    2238261

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