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Naturally disappointed even though I taught Donegal might win by a few points.

A couple of points.

1 I echo People the praise of Michael Murphy a master class is the second first we did a decent job on him. But what a class player he has the skill as well as tricks.

2 I second a lot of peoples opinions that Mc Mahon going off was a blow for us it he was playing well is speed was needed in croke park, also it forced us to use Biggy a bit earlier that we wanted too.

3 Midfield is a massive problem for us it has been all league. Its the reason the lost the game. And we where shown up in the second half it needs to be addressed. I wouldn't kick the can the road until Ronan Jones comes back. Why have Adam Flanagan on the bench if he is not going to use him ? The problem is Shane Mc Entee is not a midfielder. So Menton is soldiering largely on his own. So now we have Shane Mc Entee who is not a midfielder and a back up of Adam Flanagan that we are afraid to use.

4 Yes Brennan was taken off to early he was after winning a few decent balls and was going to though a decent spell and he was whipped off. Campion didn't was much when introduced. Over all our subs did'nt perform. I think the sideline let the team down some more decisions cost us.

Finally I hope the lads enjoyed themselves last night over all the did well yesterday. And listen we will re group and will head in to the championship in good shape.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1192 - 31/03/2019 12:09:15    2176592

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I thought McGill did very well on Murphy. He didn't score from play and only began to dominate when he went out around half forward/midfield

TakeYourPoints6 (Meath) - Posts: 223 - 31/03/2019 12:26:09    2176594

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Replying To Marara:  "No he wasn't..still can't understand that change to be honest..."
Only thing I can think of is that he was on a yellow and had committed one or two more fouls

TakeYourPoints6 (Meath) - Posts: 223 - 31/03/2019 12:27:39    2176595

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Hard luck to the lads, the best first half I've seen from a Meath team in a long time. Unfortunately we came up short in the in the end but you couldn't fault the effort. I will say that we need more from our midfield. I cant remember them winning any aerial balls. Perhaps we're lacking in size there. Thomas O'Reilly was having a stormer until one of the Donegal lads picked a row with him. That seemed to put him off his game then.

ISupposeSoSheehan (Meath) - Posts: 85 - 31/03/2019 12:36:54    2176598

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Cuter team won. We played into it a lot.

As I said in an earlier post I am thrilled at our first half play.

But the obvious signs are there. We need to sort out midfield. It was the losing of the game as it gave Donegal almost all the attacking possession.

Once Murphy was dropped in at full forward and ball was serviced to him he took his mark or laid it off. We had no secondary option.

We have come a long way but yesterday is a key example of why we will be pipped in close games.

We lack the cuteness (all from inexperience) and hopefully a year in Division 1 against the top 6-8 teams will improve that

Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 750 - 31/03/2019 12:43:32    2176599

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Replying To TakeYourPoints6:  "I thought McGill did very well on Murphy. He didn't score from play and only began to dominate when he went out around half forward/midfield"
He did but he allowed Murphy in behind him in the second half he out muscled by him .
Murphy was in my opinion lucky to stay on the pitch he continuously fouled and stuck a hand in the face any chance he got .
Both throw up balls in the second half should have resulted in Meath frees he was all over the Meath player for the throw up and got away with it in front of the ref .
He got a free in against McGill in the second half that was clearly a free out .
Murphy is clearly a great player but was looked after by the Ref yesterday .

mmc (Meath) - Posts: 214 - 31/03/2019 13:03:37    2176604

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just on our subs is devine injured he was starting games early on in league and coming on in others but the last few games no sign of him he might have been a good option yesterday in the half forward line also helping out the midfield

thecraw1 (Meath) - Posts: 101 - 31/03/2019 13:04:33    2176605

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Replying To TakeYourPoints6:  "I thought McGill did very well on Murphy. He didn't score from play and only began to dominate when he went out around half forward/midfield"
Big fan of conor mcgill and i don't take any pleasure in saying mcgill got roasted, and there's no shame in getting roasted by one of the best players of this generation, you say murphy didn't score from play but every free he got was from him being fouled by mcgill, they would have ultimately led to scores from play had he not been fouled

redser123 (Meath) - Posts: 306 - 31/03/2019 13:25:23    2176609

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Replying To SheridansTry:  "Burke and s tobin if he is in the mix would be good lads to steady the ship a little but losing mc mahon and ben were serious for us. Square ball for our disallowed goal"
Correct me here is there not a rule square ball only from set play free kick sideline etc???

Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 31/03/2019 13:38:30    2176610

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Great to see mostly positive comments on here, i'm sure when the management team sit down and analyze the game they will learn from it, the first twenty minutes of that game was as good as i have seen from a Meath team in years, i'm sure they will see that certain players just cant last that pace for 70 minutes plus and that some players are completely out of position, one or two little twerks can make this team more solid and getting 6 players to come on for twenty minutes to keep the intensity up are basic things they need to see and implement, there are some great lads in that squad and some of them have not even got a minute of league football that i personally believe they could have brought energy into the team yesterday when we looked out on our feet. saying that andy mc took a very depressed county team out of the gutters and back competing with some of the top teams in the country in this short period of time so credit where due, although i think he can and will make it even better, we have nothing to loose now in the champo so lets have a real go and make those super 8's which is achievable. #hontheroyal

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 856 - 31/03/2019 13:39:35    2176611

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Replying To thelutch:  "Great to see mostly positive comments on here, i'm sure when the management team sit down and analyze the game they will learn from it, the first twenty minutes of that game was as good as i have seen from a Meath team in years, i'm sure they will see that certain players just cant last that pace for 70 minutes plus and that some players are completely out of position, one or two little twerks can make this team more solid and getting 6 players to come on for twenty minutes to keep the intensity up are basic things they need to see and implement, there are some great lads in that squad and some of them have not even got a minute of league football that i personally believe they could have brought energy into the team yesterday when we looked out on our feet. saying that andy mc took a very depressed county team out of the gutters and back competing with some of the top teams in the country in this short period of time so credit where due, although i think he can and will make it even better, we have nothing to loose now in the champo so lets have a real go and make those super 8's which is achievable. #hontheroyal"
Very well said lutch. All in all, a very happy Meathman today. The team/ management should be proud of that league.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 391 - 31/03/2019 13:58:48    2176618

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Replying To Reco:  "Correct me here is there not a rule square ball only from set play free kick sideline etc???"
I'm the same I argued this at the game even reading the rule it's hard to know what it is .
It was a bad call I'm not sure the umpires knew where Newman was or if he stepped in after the pass I made a call from the game and was told it wasn't clear on the tv either but I didn't see what was tv maybe someone that wasn't at the game can comment on it .

mmc (Meath) - Posts: 214 - 31/03/2019 14:09:29    2176622

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I don't know why anyone on here is surprised the ulster champions won Division Two.

Chubby (Louth) - Posts: 98 - 31/03/2019 15:08:40    2176639

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Replying To mmc:  "I'm the same I argued this at the game even reading the rule it's hard to know what it is .
It was a bad call I'm not sure the umpires knew where Newman was or if he stepped in after the pass I made a call from the game and was told it wasn't clear on the tv either but I didn't see what was tv maybe someone that wasn't at the game can comment on it ."
My reading of it was it was a good goal

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 31/03/2019 15:17:14    2176641

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lads as far as i'm aware the goal was correctly disallowed, when MC mahon passed the ball Newman was already in the square, you may enter the square after the final play of the ball, in other words, if a player kicks a ball in from 50 meters you can run in straight away and be standing beside the keeper when it arrives, its a little confusing and in fairness you would need a TMO in many cases as it could be virtually impossible to be sure, to be honest i think this call came from the 4th official who can watch the monitor, he also called the ref to check hawk-eye for a point we got and then disallowed, who would be a referee ?

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 856 - 31/03/2019 15:45:25    2176646

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Replying To royaldunne:  "My reading of it was it was a good goal"
It was a good goal but correctly disallowed. Watch it back this morning and Mickey was standing in the square when McMahon made the pass.

ISupposeSoSheehan (Meath) - Posts: 85 - 31/03/2019 15:50:08    2176647

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Replying To Chubby:  "I don't know why anyone on here is surprised the ulster champions won Division Two."
Ive seen two Louth posters making snide, snickering remarks today. You know, myself or a bastion of Meath posters could congregate over to the Louth page and do the same given Louth's performance yesterday and another year of Div.3 at least. But we dont and we wont... because thats a fudamental difference between Meath and Louth. We arent obsessed with our neighbours losing, we arent obsessed with making excuses over games that happened decades ago or a Leinster final that was 9 years ago which Louth had numerous chances to get some sort of vengeance and failed on all attempts bar a few worthless challenge matches or the odd league game. The stench of resentment.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 391 - 31/03/2019 16:10:52    2176655

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Replying To Reco:  "Correct me here is there not a rule square ball only from set play free kick sideline etc???"
You can't be in the square when the ball os player from open play.
Newman was definitely in the square.
It was the right call.

jackhackett (Meath) - Posts: 765 - 31/03/2019 16:40:15    2176660

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Replying To jackhackett:  "You can't be in the square when the ball os player from open play.
Newman was definitely in the square.
It was the right call."
Fair enuf ! I've been critical of mcentees methods but I was impressed with what I saw in first half yday.midfield and how we finish games must b adressed kickouts to. All in all its moving in the right direction I feel. Let's keep it that way.

Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 31/03/2019 16:58:42    2176671

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For Meath allot of positives after a sucessful campaign. Alot to work to do. But thats all part in parcel of team development. To get to the top table and stay ( super 8/ division 1 level ) there will many up and downs and moral victories and lessons learned. Meath football is definitely on an upward curve. I definitely feel and if u look at everything from underage we r entering a new period in Meath football and the post Boylan era of 2006 to 2016 is over. And while its impossible to predict actually what level of sucess Meath will have. I think if u anyalsis Meath football from top to bottom , u can conclude Meath will be much stronger in the next ten years, in the 2020s then we have been in the last ten years. There will be ups and downs and everything will be very hard and tough to achieve . But Meath football is definitely going the right direction .

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1046 - 31/03/2019 18:09:59    2176707

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