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Replying To Jack_Goff: "They conceded point after point for the first 10/15 minutes. Personally I thought they should of had 14 or 15 behind the ball and parked the bus for the first 10 minutes. Try and hold armagh to as little scores as possible then push out and change things up. I just felt with better game management we wouldn't have let them back into it like we did." Yeah and they do that and it doesn't work and the management get slated for being too negative. Just asked Colm Coyle and his minor management team from 2 years ago. 10 up up at half time v Dublin and tried to park the bus 2nd half and it backfired. Very hard to park the bus for a whole half and to be honest your asking for trouble . Again Armagh got a run on us because Number 1 most decent county teams will have a dominant spell in every game . And Number 2 the huge wind . As someone pointed out look at the reports from lots of other games yesterday Club and County and you will see they followed a very similar pattern to our game . Team with the wind in the 1st half winning by a good bit and team with the wind in the 2nd half either coming back to win or else closing the gap and only losing by a few . There has been plenty of negatives with the team over the past few years including some horrendous collapses and even yesterday there of course was some negatives like ball and still plenty to work on but I don't think people should be going looking for negatives that aren't there . Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 11/02/2019 10:30:30 2164432 Link
Replying To Aloblack: "Yeah and they do that and it doesn't work and the management get slated for being too negative. Just asked Colm Coyle and his minor management team from 2 years ago. 10 up up at half time v Dublin and tried to park the bus 2nd half and it backfired. Very hard to park the bus for a whole half and to be honest your asking for trouble . Again Armagh got a run on us because Number 1 most decent county teams will have a dominant spell in every game . And Number 2 the huge wind . As someone pointed out look at the reports from lots of other games yesterday Club and County and you will see they followed a very similar pattern to our game . Team with the wind in the 1st half winning by a good bit and team with the wind in the 2nd half either coming back to win or else closing the gap and only losing by a few . There has been plenty of negatives with the team over the past few years including some horrendous collapses and even yesterday there of course was some negatives like ball and still plenty to work on but I don't think people should be going looking for negatives that aren't there ." Totally agree with you - parking the bus can lead to a disaster! (I was at that Minor game and it still sticks in the craw!!) With the wind blowing down the pitch it was always going to be a game of two different halves. I just read the interview with Andy after the game and I thought he was very realistic about the game and how it played out! The fact that we didn't let it slip has to be a positive 2 wins from 3 is not a bad start - next game against Cork in two weeks is a must win! Cork seem to be is disarray but they will be under huge pressure to put in a performance and stop their slide to division 3! ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 292 - 11/02/2019 10:58:24 2164451 Link
How to people think our defense is getting on ? I think its fair to say we have been solid. Even though we had a rough patch yesterday we came through it. And alot of the problems were caused further out the field. I think maybe we have not come against a real top class forward yet this year with Micheal Quinlanivan (Tipp) , Murphy and Mc Brearty (Donegal) , and Jamie Clarke (Armagh). So there is bigger challenges yet to come. its fair so say our half back line solid and look good going forward. I cant remember when we looked this good. bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1192 - 11/02/2019 11:02:34 2164454 Link
very happy with that , to beat Armagh at home by six is a decent result , cork next , i would be cautious enough with this one , i am starting to think though that these lads are getting some self believe since the tyrone game last summer . meath1987 (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 11/02/2019 13:01:51 2164506 Link
Replying To Aloblack: "Yeah and they do that and it doesn't work and the management get slated for being too negative. Just asked Colm Coyle and his minor management team from 2 years ago. 10 up up at half time v Dublin and tried to park the bus 2nd half and it backfired. Very hard to park the bus for a whole half and to be honest your asking for trouble . Again Armagh got a run on us because Number 1 most decent county teams will have a dominant spell in every game . And Number 2 the huge wind . As someone pointed out look at the reports from lots of other games yesterday Club and County and you will see they followed a very similar pattern to our game . Team with the wind in the 1st half winning by a good bit and team with the wind in the 2nd half either coming back to win or else closing the gap and only losing by a few . There has been plenty of negatives with the team over the past few years including some horrendous collapses and even yesterday there of course was some negatives like ball and still plenty to work on but I don't think people should be going looking for negatives that aren't there ." I was talking the first 10 or 15 minutes not the whole second half. We had 3 lads forward are times yesterday in that 10 minutes and I don't think the ball reached them once. They'd be better off clogging up space at the back. They when we push out after 10 minutes you are more likely to catch Armagh out. Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 11/02/2019 13:34:22 2164526 Link
Replying To bobkarlgees: "If talking about MOM for me it was Thomas o Reilly he just got 2 points but both where real quality. The one in the second half was really impressive. Against the wind. But it was at a real crucial time when we where under real pressure. So often in the past these chances where squandered. But in the second when we where under real pressure. he was down our half line carrying the ball forward. Looked classy on the creating space also. He put in a great ball to Mickey for a goal chance. But unfortunately Mickey could not hold on to. Also in General Thomas has stood out for me." Had a great game alright. Thought James McEntee was motm for me, constantly defending and running at defense causing them untold problems. That been said didn't think anyone had a bad game royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 11/02/2019 13:51:49 2164539 Link
Replying To Jack_Goff: "I was talking the first 10 or 15 minutes not the whole second half. We had 3 lads forward are times yesterday in that 10 minutes and I don't think the ball reached them once. They'd be better off clogging up space at the back. They when we push out after 10 minutes you are more likely to catch Armagh out." well if you have less than 3 forwards or no forwards up there like you suggested you would never get out . Nothing wrong with the tactics yesterday whatsoever we won by 6 points . Teams will get a run on you at this level and have a purple patch its part and parcel of the game..Even with 15 back with that wind it was easy enough to clip points over so not sure it would have made a difference. Nothing surer if we had gone 15 behind the ball and got caught we'd all be on here slaughtering the managment and rightly so. Theres a time to go ultra defensive and hold what you have but the very start of the 2nd half is not that time. your playing with fire if you do that and try to hold out for 35 40 mins. Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 11/02/2019 14:09:23 2164550 Link
Replying To Aloblack: "No we're waiting for you to say it. Fire away there." Ok thanks. Well kicking long into a strong breeze is probably not the best approach to be taking with kickouts. It wasn't working. Not saying it was Colgan's fault, but there was little or no movement from the backs to offer a short option. Just thought it was very headless from us when Armagh had a head of steam built up. No tact. Just try and boot it long seemed to be the approach taken Selwyn (Meath) - Posts: 195 - 11/02/2019 14:23:49 2164556 Link
Anyone know whats Ruairi O Coileains story? I see he's back playing for Navan? Has he opted out or has he been asked back in at all yet since hes come back. Always rated him. Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 11/02/2019 14:30:38 2164558 Link
I thought Armagh looked decent enough in the second half. They missed a lot of scores - many at crucial times in the game. Had they had their shooting boots on the outcome could have been a different story. bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1668 - 11/02/2019 15:59:58 2164590 Link
Replying To bert09: "I thought Armagh looked decent enough in the second half. They missed a lot of scores - many at crucial times in the game. Had they had their shooting boots on the outcome could have been a different story." Don't believe so. As strange as it may seem, I thought we had the measure of them always , even after they came to within 1, felt with what was coming off the bench would help. As it did. I see McGeeney saying he was laughing all week at what biggie said. Well he ain't laughing now. Hon the royal. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 11/02/2019 17:02:53 2164616 Link
Replying To bobkarlgees: "How to people think our defense is getting on ? I think its fair to say we have been solid. Even though we had a rough patch yesterday we came through it. And alot of the problems were caused further out the field. I think maybe we have not come against a real top class forward yet this year with Micheal Quinlanivan (Tipp) , Murphy and Mc Brearty (Donegal) , and Jamie Clarke (Armagh). So there is bigger challenges yet to come. its fair so say our half back line solid and look good going forward. I cant remember when we looked this good." I agree. A very important point. We've met Tipp, Donegal, and Armagh and they were all missing standout players, well known around the country. It doesent take away from two outstanding victories given our recent form but its a statistic nonetheless. Our defence for me looked good vs. Armagh. When Armagh eventually started playing in the second half they had to work for most of their scores, and were pressurised into kicking a fair few wides. The full-back line did a good job man-to-man. I agree, the half backs look very solid. It just remains to be seen if they can hold this intensity and iron out the creases, most of which seem to be internal confidence in the team. I reckon its Meath's best team in 4/5 years at least, I just hope I dont eat those words over the next few months! Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 391 - 11/02/2019 18:01:44 2164630 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Don't believe so. As strange as it may seem, I thought we had the measure of them always , even after they came to within 1, felt with what was coming off the bench would help. As it did. I see McGeeney saying he was laughing all week at what biggie said. Well he ain't laughing now. Hon the royal." Fair point. Just looked it up and we had 10 wides versus 13 for Armagh. bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1668 - 11/02/2019 18:16:58 2164634 Link
Ok I am not going to get excited but ,,,,,, I see we are Evens to get promoted according to pp , I had us before league at 11/2 and to win it out at 8/1. The rd household could have a nice holiday this year :) royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 11/02/2019 20:43:33 2164676 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Don't believe so. As strange as it may seem, I thought we had the measure of them always , even after they came to within 1, felt with what was coming off the bench would help. As it did. I see McGeeney saying he was laughing all week at what biggie said. Well he ain't laughing now. Hon the royal." What did he say? Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 12/02/2019 01:18:02 2164732 Link
Clear to see a football coach has taken our play to a new dynamic. Nally has to b given credit for the way we are playing.our running game and bit of kicking mixed in has to be acknowledged. Midfield is a worry a minute but more game time maybe it will come together.dropping off in second half there exposed us. Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 12/02/2019 09:21:43 2164752 Link
Replying To Reco: "Clear to see a football coach has taken our play to a new dynamic. Nally has to b given credit for the way we are playing.our running game and bit of kicking mixed in has to be acknowledged. Midfield is a worry a minute but more game time maybe it will come together.dropping off in second half there exposed us." Agreed coaching shows big improvement so far this year..... Why did it take 2 years for county board to act on this glaring shortcoming.???...However better late than never!! Dare i say it Keoghan to midfield switching with Menton .?? nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 841 - 12/02/2019 11:09:21 2164774 Link
Replying To Jack_Goff: "What did he say?" That he was laughing all week at Graham Reilly saying Armagh are a physical team. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 12/02/2019 11:43:48 2164782 Link
Replying To Reco: "Clear to see a football coach has taken our play to a new dynamic. Nally has to b given credit for the way we are playing.our running game and bit of kicking mixed in has to be acknowledged. Midfield is a worry a minute but more game time maybe it will come together.dropping off in second half there exposed us." Full credit goes primarily to Andy McEntee, the likes of you is what's wrong with Meath football. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 12/02/2019 11:45:12 2164784 Link
Replying To David: "Yes i agree both McEntee cousins are playing very well at minute. Although i don't think Shane is a natural midfielder nor is Bryan Menton. But they are our best midfield partnership at present. However, i thought Adam Flanagan was coming along as he played O'Byrne Cup and was named for Tipperary match only for Shane McEntee to replace him just before throw in. Any information? Is Sean Tobin awol or injured, not named at all today. And just wondering is Padraic Harnan available?" Flanagan and Tobin both injured, both nearing fitness though, Harnan has been playing with his club in the league so not sure where he is at longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 300 - 12/02/2019 11:56:23 2164789 Link