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What way will the vote go tomorrow?

Thinks most clubs agree 18 teams in Senior is too many but ending up with 20 teams in Intermediate might scupper it ?

Count (Meath) - Posts: 92 - 06/01/2019 21:51:02    2155870

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Replying To Count:  "What way will the vote go tomorrow?

Thinks most clubs agree 18 teams in Senior is too many but ending up with 20 teams in Intermediate might scupper it ?"
I'd say itll pass handy enough. I hope it doesn't as obviously good for my club having a team competing in senior and then in intermediate and would be hard on those lads who put so much effort in to win the Junior championship and get up to intermediate. However I do feel this time around it will pass .

Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 07/01/2019 09:44:28    2155899

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No doubt the teams in danger of relegation will object

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 312 - 07/01/2019 09:45:37    2155901

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No club should have any gripes about these proposals. They are very fair and reasonable across the board and will offer everyone a better competition to be apart of. If you end up in relegation trouble as a result of these rule changes, you can have no complaints in my opinion, especially Senior teams, as if you finish bottom of your group, you deserve to go down. I know I would much rather my team be in a competition that you can compete in (i.e getting to semi finals and finals) rather than just surviving every year and not having a chance of doing anything in the competition. Its delegates from clubs that have egos who are the problem, and would much rather have their club with a Senior status than an Intermediate one etc.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 565 - 07/01/2019 10:41:48    2155908

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "No club should have any gripes about these proposals. They are very fair and reasonable across the board and will offer everyone a better competition to be apart of. If you end up in relegation trouble as a result of these rule changes, you can have no complaints in my opinion, especially Senior teams, as if you finish bottom of your group, you deserve to go down. I know I would much rather my team be in a competition that you can compete in (i.e getting to semi finals and finals) rather than just surviving every year and not having a chance of doing anything in the competition. Its delegates from clubs that have egos who are the problem, and would much rather have their club with a Senior status than an Intermediate one etc."
well I wouldn't say no club. in fairness surely you could understand why dunbonye would not want it to pass. very beneficial for us having 2 teams competing in the top 2 grades .

Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 07/01/2019 11:16:20    2155918

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Replying To Aloblack:  "well I wouldn't say no club. in fairness surely you could understand why dunbonye would not want it to pass. very beneficial for us having 2 teams competing in the top 2 grades ."
Perhaps so but I think would Dunboyne remain Intermediate unless they were involved in relegation trouble. I would fancy them to stay up Intermediate if I am being honest. If they go down they go down I don't think they would have to much complaints. Also Conor O'Donoghue from Dunboyne has been one of the main driving forces behind these proposals so they are well aware of them.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 565 - 07/01/2019 11:44:50    2155922

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "Perhaps so but I think would Dunboyne remain Intermediate unless they were involved in relegation trouble. I would fancy them to stay up Intermediate if I am being honest. If they go down they go down I don't think they would have to much complaints. Also Conor O'Donoghue from Dunboyne has been one of the main driving forces behind these proposals so they are well aware of them."
he has that's right and to be honest I've no idea what way the club is voting tonight. but id imagine the players involved would rather be playing intermediate football in 2020 if they stay up this year rather than playing a B league Championship. it's only natural they'd want to play at the highest level possible. as I said I believe it will be passed anyway.

Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 07/01/2019 12:23:14    2155929

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Any proposal involving kicking out 2nd teams always just seems to me as a politically acceptable way for clubs to remove the opposition and increase their chances of silverware.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1391 - 07/01/2019 12:35:43    2155931

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Replying To Aloblack:  "well I wouldn't say no club. in fairness surely you could understand why dunbonye would not want it to pass. very beneficial for us having 2 teams competing in the top 2 grades ."
sure you might get relegated from intermediate this season and then you have no issue.
Its the brainchild of one of your own club men and you don't want it to succeed ? He has put in huge time and effort to get his plans to this stage and deserves to be supported by his own club.

gardentree (Meath) - Posts: 194 - 07/01/2019 14:37:37    2155951

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Replying To gardentree:  "sure you might get relegated from intermediate this season and then you have no issue.
Its the brainchild of one of your own club men and you don't want it to succeed ? He has put in huge time and effort to get his plans to this stage and deserves to be supported by his own club."
you are 100% right we might get relegated this year. but then again we might not. like all players they would prefer to be relegated on the field and not in the boardroom. and fair play to him for putting time and effort in it but he's 1 man in the club. what if the vast majority of players and people involbed in the club are against it? should the club go against their wishes just because one man from the club was involved with the county board on this proposal?.

Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 07/01/2019 15:24:26    2155958

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Well all sorted!
16 teams at Senior from 2020 - so 2019 should be interesting at both ends! 3 teams to go back to intermediate!!

No second teams at Intermediate or Junior should make them fairer and I suspect the 'Premier Championship' will be fairly competitive. In fact in the long term the Premier Championship might be of more benefit to the clubs with larger populations

Now instead of looking at who will win Senior Championship - there might be more talk about who is likely to go down!!!

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 292 - 08/01/2019 13:26:24    2156091

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Replying To Aloblack:  "you are 100% right we might get relegated this year. but then again we might not. like all players they would prefer to be relegated on the field and not in the boardroom. and fair play to him for putting time and effort in it but he's 1 man in the club. what if the vast majority of players and people involbed in the club are against it? should the club go against their wishes just because one man from the club was involved with the county board on this proposal?."
All over now , vote for change was won . Dunboyne relegated is unfortunate but the new championship system looks a big step in the right direction for meath football. All Games in senior/Intermediate championship are vital to every club. No more meaningless matches ,

gardentree (Meath) - Posts: 194 - 08/01/2019 13:42:46    2156094

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Could be a step in the right direction....well that is until the change is vetoed and we're back to square one.

Just like the redevelopment of PT, I'll believe it when I see it.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8583 - 08/01/2019 16:58:00    2156136

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Replying To gardentree:  "All over now , vote for change was won . Dunboyne relegated is unfortunate but the new championship system looks a big step in the right direction for meath football. All Games in senior/Intermediate championship are vital to every club. No more meaningless matches ,"
yep that's it's all done now.. big majority as well.. hopefully it works for the good of meath football.

Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 08/01/2019 17:24:43    2156144

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Replying To Aloblack:  "yep that's it's all done now.. big majority as well.. hopefully it works for the good of meath football."
yea hope it works, that Primer competition for second teams looks interesting

gardentree (Meath) - Posts: 194 - 08/01/2019 17:29:02    2156146

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Replying To ASaminthehand:  "Well all sorted!
16 teams at Senior from 2020 - so 2019 should be interesting at both ends! 3 teams to go back to intermediate!!

No second teams at Intermediate or Junior should make them fairer and I suspect the 'Premier Championship' will be fairly competitive. In fact in the long term the Premier Championship might be of more benefit to the clubs with larger populations

Now instead of looking at who will win Senior Championship - there might be more talk about who is likely to go down!!!"
Think the "Premier Championship" will be a joke. It's the equivalent of the B-leagues(2nd teams) at the moment and what they did to improve the B-leagues was to promote the winners into Division 3 or 4 in the A leagues, so for first time a club with a second team will have a team in the A leagues but there not doing it for championship, no 2nd team can play in either championship, so the premier will be like the B leagues at the moment and played during the summer months. In the past number of years, its been Donaghmore/Ashbourne and Dunboyne that had been playing in the Division 1 B league finals, so its more or less that. It's ruining the most popular areas that have 2 or 3 teams to Benefit the county and the county championship and to help a lot of clubs with only 1 team.

Bugsy (Meath) - Posts: 58 - 09/01/2019 07:08:37    2156209

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so if these changes were this year for example
promoting st vincents to intermediate will improve meath football?

wow

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 312 - 09/01/2019 09:36:00    2156216

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Replying To hurlit:  "so if these changes were this year for example
promoting st vincents to intermediate will improve meath football?

wow"
Well they were a kick of a ball away from winning the Junior Championship outright this year so your cheap comment is redundant to be honest. They have as good a team as any in the Junior Championship and will probably improve more over the next couple of years with more young players coming through.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 565 - 09/01/2019 10:26:38    2156220

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my point is , promote weaker teams to a 20 team inter champ is ment to improve standard in the county?
nothing again vincents at all , they have made great progress since move up from junior b

12 or 14 teams in each grade is plenty if they want to improve things

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 312 - 09/01/2019 15:29:22    2156272

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If my understanding is correct then one big advantage is that first teams will be able to use squad in the Senior and inter championships without having to be worrying about robbing the second team or limiting the amount of football that fringe players get. Subs will know they have a realistic chance of being played. Can't understand how 18 clubs were against it.

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1338 - 09/01/2019 20:41:27    2156307

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