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Replying To jackhackett:  "What Gerry hasn't mentioned is that Monaghan have a completely different Championship structure as well which along with having practically no hurling is significant.

Clubs (at least at senior level which I'm most familiar with) have a minimum of 5 hurling championship games in Meath.

Their championship is along the lines of the Christy Ring structure, only guaranteeing clubs a minimum of 2 games.

In Meath you're guaranteed 5 at present.

They also don't have an equivalent to the Feis Fup which at present takes up 4 game days for most clubs and potentially 5 for a few."
Look each to their own! There's merits in both and what works in one county doesn't work in another. But if you wanna go down that route - we also play an Ulster league, our champ is real knock-out and there's a huge crossover of players from senior to 2nd team who play both ie we don't penalize a 2nd team player for playing five minutes in a senior championship by not allowing him to play any further in his actual grade... we reward them for 2nd team performances by giving them a run in the senior team!

Anyway - that's that. It certainly wasn't my intention to dis either system - I see merits in both. I just preferrred longevity in the summer when I played and because our leagues are so competitive - they attract big crowds and are the basis for which our county team is currently performing. Strong competition for players makes them more adaptable at county level!

Anyway - It's brilliant to see hurling flourish in Meath and long may it continue. Sounds like it's well respected too. We could really do with an injection of hurling love in Monaghan!!

GerryD (Monaghan) - Posts: 322 - 16/03/2019 00:17:20    2172496

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10.30 start sunday
45 min drive to my game
want to be there about 45 min beforehand

hard beat 9am starts for a league football
why not have game at 8am ?

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 312 - 21/03/2019 09:22:11    2174118

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Replying To hurlit:  "10.30 start sunday
45 min drive to my game
want to be there about 45 min beforehand

hard beat 9am starts for a league football
why not have game at 8am ?"
Throw in early @10.30am, in order to allow all go to navan and support the county team, if they want to, and play a league match in morning.

If throw in @ 12pm noon, ppl would be giving out about how they can not support senior footballers and have to play league match!! Saying this, that and the other, about the CB. The CB are obviously trying to use common sense here and please all. After all, we have not been on this situation (of the senior footballers going well and on cuspe of promotion to division 1), for a number of years.

You can not please all!!!!

David (Meath) - Posts: 566 - 22/03/2019 19:49:51    2174429

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Replying To David:  "Throw in early @10.30am, in order to allow all go to navan and support the county team, if they want to, and play a league match in morning.

If throw in @ 12pm noon, ppl would be giving out about how they can not support senior footballers and have to play league match!! Saying this, that and the other, about the CB. The CB are obviously trying to use common sense here and please all. After all, we have not been on this situation (of the senior footballers going well and on cuspe of promotion to division 1), for a number of years.

You can not please all!!!!"
yeah God love people on the fixtures committee. Games were moved because of Meath game and a lot of stewards for Pairc Tailteann steward for their club and are needed in Navan early because of the ladies game and a big crowd for the Mens game.

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 22/03/2019 23:12:23    2174465

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Can you some explain the thinking behind having all A League matches complete by June 2nd?

This means that the majority of teams who are not involved in finals or playoffs could well have no competitive football for the months of June and July? Assuming championship won't resume until August.

I am not county board bashing but how can it make sense to have no games in June & July? Yet loads of games in Feb & March

I am assuming the Fixtures committee see some logic to this plan - anyone know what it is?

Bread (Meath) - Posts: 53 - 15/05/2019 21:31:55    2184413

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Replying To Bread:  "Can you some explain the thinking behind having all A League matches complete by June 2nd?

This means that the majority of teams who are not involved in finals or playoffs could well have no competitive football for the months of June and July? Assuming championship won't resume until August.

I am not county board bashing but how can it make sense to have no games in June & July? Yet loads of games in Feb & March

I am assuming the Fixtures committee see some logic to this plan - anyone know what it is?"
Yeah absolutely crazy. I questioned this before. What will happen is guys will lose interest and/or go the US for summer. Or just not wamt to play anymore. Crazy stuff realy.

David (Meath) - Posts: 566 - 16/05/2019 00:04:42    2184451

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Replying To Bread:  "Can you some explain the thinking behind having all A League matches complete by June 2nd?

This means that the majority of teams who are not involved in finals or playoffs could well have no competitive football for the months of June and July? Assuming championship won't resume until August.

I am not county board bashing but how can it make sense to have no games in June & July? Yet loads of games in Feb & March

I am assuming the Fixtures committee see some logic to this plan - anyone know what it is?"
Sure why would lads want to play football in the long evenings and decent weather. You can't beat a game of ball in a mud bath in February.......
Whilst i fully agree that when you play a championship knockout game all other competitions should at that stage be completed, it is taking it too far to be done by June 2nd

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1338 - 16/05/2019 08:38:04    2184474

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Feis cup today, A league Sunday, B league monday, A league again Wednesday. 4 GAMES IN 7 DAYS for some players. Absolutely ridiculous.

Add in the fact that a good chunk of these players are probably sitting college exams at the minute and it makes absolutely no sense at all.

And then no competitive games in June & July, which is when lads actually want to be playing football. I understand making fixtures is a hard and thankless job, but this is laughable.

TakeYourPoints6 (Meath) - Posts: 223 - 16/05/2019 08:55:46    2184475

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That should read B league Saturday. Still doesnt change anything. 4 games 7 days.

TakeYourPoints6 (Meath) - Posts: 223 - 16/05/2019 09:02:06    2184476

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Replying To Bread:  "Can you some explain the thinking behind having all A League matches complete by June 2nd?

This means that the majority of teams who are not involved in finals or playoffs could well have no competitive football for the months of June and July? Assuming championship won't resume until August.

I am not county board bashing but how can it make sense to have no games in June & July? Yet loads of games in Feb & March

I am assuming the Fixtures committee see some logic to this plan - anyone know what it is?"
Also 4 games (3 League and a Feis Cup) over the next 10 days or so as well on top a round of 2 of b league.

I know lads want to play games but at the same time lads want to play when they are in a position to play the games i.e. their bodies have recovered.

juicy (Meath) - Posts: 384 - 16/05/2019 09:19:50    2184480

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Replying To TakeYourPoints6:  "Feis cup today, A league Sunday, B league monday, A league again Wednesday. 4 GAMES IN 7 DAYS for some players. Absolutely ridiculous.

Add in the fact that a good chunk of these players are probably sitting college exams at the minute and it makes absolutely no sense at all.

And then no competitive games in June & July, which is when lads actually want to be playing football. I understand making fixtures is a hard and thankless job, but this is laughable."
there is 4 rounds of hurling championship throughout end of June and July . and possibly a round of football.

there will be football league games up to middle of June.

if lack of games is issue in July, clubs can organise 1-2 challenge matches in July to prepare for championship.

you offer no alternative, but the alternative is obvious, finish the leagues in November which no one wants.

overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 16/05/2019 11:05:31    2184519

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Replying To TakeYourPoints6:  "Feis cup today, A league Sunday, B league monday, A league again Wednesday. 4 GAMES IN 7 DAYS for some players. Absolutely ridiculous.

Add in the fact that a good chunk of these players are probably sitting college exams at the minute and it makes absolutely no sense at all.

And then no competitive games in June & July, which is when lads actually want to be playing football. I understand making fixtures is a hard and thankless job, but this is laughable."
In fairness, the A league games this weekend are back fixtures and it should be a different set of players playing B league

Belt (Meath) - Posts: 205 - 16/05/2019 11:11:20    2184524

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Replying To Belt:  "In fairness, the A league games this weekend are back fixtures and it should be a different set of players playing B league"
where was the missed week ? i for one cannot think of when a round of fixture were called off this year, could be wrong but just dont recall any football, think there was a hurling alright.

While i can understand your point about B league, that well an good for the senior/town teams but get to lower rural areas and its a struggle to field with lads away/injuries. regardless of that there is alot of fixtures put together in a short period of time.

juicy (Meath) - Posts: 384 - 16/05/2019 15:03:40    2184630

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Replying To Belt:  "In fairness, the A league games this weekend are back fixtures and it should be a different set of players playing B league"
A league this weekend are not back fixtures. Any back fixtures are being played on the weekend of the25th

sam1996 (Meath) - Posts: 436 - 16/05/2019 15:35:52    2184643

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Replying To Belt:  "In fairness, the A league games this weekend are back fixtures and it should be a different set of players playing B league"
It should be a different set of players playing A league and B league but it isn't for many clubs and not just the smaller clubs as someone else has pointed out. It will be interesting to compare for example the teams that line our for Dunboyne and Ratoath on Sunday with the teams that lined out for both in the last round of championship. Both of them have players missing due to county commitments in both codes and at Senior and under 20. They also have lads missing for exams etc. I'd be surprised if either fields more than 5 of their championship teams. The balance of their players will probably come up from their B teams.

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 292 - 16/05/2019 15:44:48    2184645

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The leagues have really fallen in stature in recent years. County fixture makers seem to be treating it as a hassle but i fully appreciate the challenges they face. Playing without county players too doesnt help either. its all well and good to say that competitions must continue without county players but it hurts very many clubs and it does take the shine off competitions. Starting them in January and running so many games in May with so many away is a total sickener to players and many will ask themselves why woudl i bother?. I mean a club player who picks up a muscle injury at the start of May or who is doing exams could miss 3-4 league games, 25% of the league - total madness. The association in general faces a massive challenge to fix the fixtures

seasiderblues (Meath) - Posts: 262 - 16/05/2019 16:22:16    2184662

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if they want these leagues finished by mid june then 13 rounds is way to many
if they had till end of august then you would finish it no problem

Whos gona play a league final in june without county players anyway

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 312 - 16/05/2019 17:20:49    2184674

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It's the same every year but normally it's july that the glut comes as for a couple of years the feis cup started the season off don't know why that didn't happen this year. It was the reason the big amount of games came in June and July
The county board have tried for 3 years to change the present structure and succeeded for this year which comes in in 2020 when we are led to believe things will improve. Clubs blocked it other years as the glut in the summer is forgot by December. This year the glut is in May and most clubs will be idle for June and july

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 16/05/2019 18:51:08    2184691

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What has happened this year to Syddan, yet to win a game in 11 after a great year last year, I would have saw them as one of the favorites for the intermediate championship but having seen two of there games this year they look a million miles off the pace, I saw there game against castletown yesterday and they had the look of a badly organised team with no real plan as they have some very talent players but it seems that there is not much structure for them to express themselves which would have to come from the management team, they looked very unfit and morale seemed low within the team, have they lost some players from last year or what as a team doesn't become that bad over night? Anyone have any idea what's going on within the club?

Meath4Sam2020 (Meath) - Posts: 122 - 17/05/2019 22:49:15    2185083

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Replying To Meath4Sam2020:  "What has happened this year to Syddan, yet to win a game in 11 after a great year last year, I would have saw them as one of the favorites for the intermediate championship but having seen two of there games this year they look a million miles off the pace, I saw there game against castletown yesterday and they had the look of a badly organised team with no real plan as they have some very talent players but it seems that there is not much structure for them to express themselves which would have to come from the management team, they looked very unfit and morale seemed low within the team, have they lost some players from last year or what as a team doesn't become that bad over night? Anyone have any idea what's going on within the club?"
Maybe they are just no good. Certainly not for Senior League

Talking_Sense (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 18/05/2019 23:30:01    2185360

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