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Replying To CastleBravo:  "Would you not be better served by actually reading the fixtures before going off on a bizarre rant?

Saturday 22 September

SHC semi-final
Kildalkey v Trim Sat. 22/9/18 17-15pm SHC.Semi Final Pairc Tailteann

Sunday 23 September

SHC semi-final
Kiltale v Ratoath Sun. 23/9/18 15-30pm SHC.Semi Final Pairc Tailteann"
Would a double header not be possible for this?

I think it would bring a big crowd and get a great atmosphere. Neutrals would come along as well.

Regarding the two games I think Ratoath will pull off a shock and beat Kiltale and Kildalkey will just have a bit too much for Trim. Mind you I wouldnt rule out a draw in the Ratoath Kiltale game.

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 07/09/2018 09:49:51    2140045

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kiltale will not get caught again by ratoath , they will win 3 points. kildalkey will beat trim by 10-15 points.

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 532 - 07/09/2018 11:56:06    2140090

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Replying To oldsam_newsam:  "Would a double header not be possible for this?

I think it would bring a big crowd and get a great atmosphere. Neutrals would come along as well.

Regarding the two games I think Ratoath will pull off a shock and beat Kiltale and Kildalkey will just have a bit too much for Trim. Mind you I wouldnt rule out a draw in the Ratoath Kiltale game."
they are double headers, Intermediate semi before each senior semi, big attendance will be expected at both

gardentree (Meath) - Posts: 194 - 07/09/2018 15:50:15    2140174

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I was at the quarter finals Navan last week. In the kiltale v longwood game, Eoin Lynch from Longwood came up behind a kiltale player and drove the butt of the hurl into him twice, completely unprovoked. It was in front of the stand and linesman, he accordingly got a red card. I then see he only got 1 month and to miss at least one game. He could have done serious damage to the kiltale player and there's no excuse for this behaviour on a pitch with so many kids watching. How he was let on a field this weekend to play football is a disgrace. And to only miss one match of senior hurling next year? I would love to hear the discussion of his sentence because what he did was black and white. There is people in the joy for less.

philips1 (Meath) - Posts: 42 - 09/09/2018 09:15:54    2140433

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Replying To philips1:  "I was at the quarter finals Navan last week. In the kiltale v longwood game, Eoin Lynch from Longwood came up behind a kiltale player and drove the butt of the hurl into him twice, completely unprovoked. It was in front of the stand and linesman, he accordingly got a red card. I then see he only got 1 month and to miss at least one game. He could have done serious damage to the kiltale player and there's no excuse for this behaviour on a pitch with so many kids watching. How he was let on a field this weekend to play football is a disgrace. And to only miss one match of senior hurling next year? I would love to hear the discussion of his sentence because what he did was black and white. There is people in the joy for less."
I agree. I am not sure how his involvement impacted the game last night but it is wrong that a player should have played after such a serious offence.

The punishment for a straight red should be a month from either code as it's the same governing body and also to include the next game in the same competition should the 1 month not cover this.

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 09/09/2018 11:52:05    2140457

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Replying To oldsam_newsam:  "I agree. I am not sure how his involvement impacted the game last night but it is wrong that a player should have played after such a serious offence.

The punishment for a straight red should be a month from either code as it's the same governing body and also to include the next game in the same competition should the 1 month not cover this."
In my younger days I was given a straight red and banned from both? Find it hard to believe that he wasn't. Maybe it has to go to a hearing first or perhaps Longwood never received communication from the CB of his suspension.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 476 - 10/09/2018 08:40:18    2140599

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Replying To philips1:  "I was at the quarter finals Navan last week. In the kiltale v longwood game, Eoin Lynch from Longwood came up behind a kiltale player and drove the butt of the hurl into him twice, completely unprovoked. It was in front of the stand and linesman, he accordingly got a red card. I then see he only got 1 month and to miss at least one game. He could have done serious damage to the kiltale player and there's no excuse for this behaviour on a pitch with so many kids watching. How he was let on a field this weekend to play football is a disgrace. And to only miss one match of senior hurling next year? I would love to hear the discussion of his sentence because what he did was black and white. There is people in the joy for less."
I don't think we should be discussing and naming an individual player and slating him publicly in this day and age, we need to be careful about individual feelings. Let's get back to discussing Hurling Championship and let CB deal with all those other matters.

Redsalltheway (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 10/09/2018 10:30:32    2140635

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "In my younger days I was given a straight red and banned from both? Find it hard to believe that he wasn't. Maybe it has to go to a hearing first or perhaps Longwood never received communication from the CB of his suspension."
Bans have been separate for different codes and competitions for the last couple of years

Belt (Meath) - Posts: 205 - 10/09/2018 11:21:35    2140655

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Any news on the four teams competing this weekend? Challenge games? Injuries? All will surely benefit with they're respective football teams been knocked out of championship. Ratoath could be the big winners in this regard, though Kiltale building momentum quietly. Trim will also hugely benefit with focusing on hurling and potentially causing a shock against Kildalkey although it's a big ask.

Redsalltheway (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 18/09/2018 14:13:35    2142474

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Not a hope Kildalkey will beat trim by 15-20 points, the trim backs wont hold kildalkey forwards , Trim are not even a fit loking team. theres no hope kildalkey will let alan douglas that much room he got against Longwood.

Prediction Kildalkey 3-18
Trim 0-10

Kiltale will beat ratoath by about 5 points . Kiltale wont let Ratoath beat them twice in one year in championship

Kiltale 2-16
Ratoath 0-17

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 532 - 18/09/2018 14:36:24    2142485

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Replying To dickie10:  "Not a hope Kildalkey will beat trim by 15-20 points, the trim backs wont hold kildalkey forwards , Trim are not even a fit loking team. theres no hope kildalkey will let alan douglas that much room he got against Longwood.

Prediction Kildalkey 3-18
Trim 0-10

Kiltale will beat ratoath by about 5 points . Kiltale wont let Ratoath beat them twice in one year in championship

Kiltale 2-16
Ratoath 0-17"
If you knew anything about club hurling you'd know that the Trim Kildalkey game isn't as straight forward as you think.

Kiltale Ratoath- Kiltale will have learned a lot from the group meeting and with A Forde and J Regan back they should have too much for this young Ratoath side. Kiltale by 5

Trim Kildalkey- If trim can handle Duxie and get rid of a few of the unfit lads they're in with a great chance. The fitness of N Heffernan and M Cullen are key to Trim being in this game. Still think Kildalkey will edge it by 3.

Meathgaalad (Meath) - Posts: 120 - 18/09/2018 15:32:27    2142511

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Replying To Meathgaalad:  "If you knew anything about club hurling you'd know that the Trim Kildalkey game isn't as straight forward as you think.

Kiltale Ratoath- Kiltale will have learned a lot from the group meeting and with A Forde and J Regan back they should have too much for this young Ratoath side. Kiltale by 5

Trim Kildalkey- If trim can handle Duxie and get rid of a few of the unfit lads they're in with a great chance. The fitness of N Heffernan and M Cullen are key to Trim being in this game. Still think Kildalkey will edge it by 3."
Agree, I don't think Kiltale will lose again to Ratoath. They have all their main lads back and will have too much for a very good Ratoath Team. Prediction: Kiltale by 3

Similarly, Trim have all their main players back, and I think this game will go down right to the end. Prediction: Trim by 1

overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 18/09/2018 15:59:05    2142518

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Replying To dickie10:  "Not a hope Kildalkey will beat trim by 15-20 points, the trim backs wont hold kildalkey forwards , Trim are not even a fit loking team. theres no hope kildalkey will let alan douglas that much room he got against Longwood.

Prediction Kildalkey 3-18
Trim 0-10

Kiltale will beat ratoath by about 5 points . Kiltale wont let Ratoath beat them twice in one year in championship

Kiltale 2-16
Ratoath 0-17"
If you think Trim will lose by 15 to 20 points you dont have a clue

loyaltothecause (Meath) - Posts: 9 - 18/09/2018 16:08:50    2142522

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Will Jack Regan play? He was injured against Killyon and didn't play against Longwood. Will Heffernan be fit to play for Trim either?

Redsalltheway (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 18/09/2018 19:12:22    2142562

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trim are by far the worst team left in it but they wont be beat by that much - 7 or 8 points id think
the only lads talking trim up is themselves, they have played nobody any use this year yet so mayby forget

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 312 - 18/09/2018 20:55:31    2142579

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Replying To loyaltothecause:  "If you think Trim will lose by 15 to 20 points you dont have a clue"
The last time Kildalkey played Trim in a s/f they hammered them and were poor enough in the final v Kiltale. Since that Kildalkey have improved and Kiltale were extremely lucky to beat them last year. Have Trim improved in the meanwhile? I don't think so. 15 to 20 points!! If this happens then we realistically have only 4 or 5 competitive clubs in Senior Hurling. Kildalkey by 7 or 8 pts.

Ratoath will give Kiltale a very stern test but I doubt if they will win it. As in last year's final for 59 mins Kildalkey were the better team but experience told in the end. Ratoath could well be the better team for Long periods on Sunday but may well be caught on the run in. Kiltale by 3 or 4 pts scored late on.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 742 - 19/09/2018 00:06:54    2142613

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I'm not so sure any team will hammer another in either of the semi finals, Kildalkey will be favourites to beat trim but as was already said key factors will be Cullen and Heffernan been available, if both start Trim will have the additional fire power to assist Douglas to keep them in the game, the Trim half forward line while not very mobile can score so therefore Kildalkey defence will need to keep it tight at all times, likeley forward's for Trim in whatever positions are Douglas, Heffernan, Cullen, Dowling, Magee, Farrell who all score in every game, looking at the kildalkey defence which hasn't really changed in a few games should be able to hold the Trim forwards in most duels provided they dont allow the space that Killyon did.
Trims defence at a guess will be Moran,Toher, Higgins, Andrews, Dwane and O Rourke will have a tough enough test with the KIldalkey forward line, players like Heavey, Conneely, Doran, Keogh and who ever else they decide to add into the mix, midfiled will be a huge area in this game and this is where Kildalkey will get the biggest hold i reckon, Trim lacked mobility there against Killyon where as Kildalkey have big engines in this area, both goalies are very good in different ways, both excellent shot stoppers, Fagan more brave that Ennis, Ennis better puckouts than Fagan,
Referee in this game wont make a god out of any free taker,
Prediction Kildalkey by 4,
Like Kildalkey Kiltale will be favourites going into this game and rightly so, there 5 in a row chasing, had a poor start, done enough to get through the group, built momentum and are now primed for their 1st real test in this championship where it really matters,
Goalies, Ratoath keeper is average, not comparison to Mcgann who is the best around and one of the best in the game IMO, Kiltale have vast expierence in all areas, in defence they have 2 Donoghues, Garvey and Ryan, in midfield they have strenghtened by the return of Forde who is the heartbeat of that team coupled with O Sullivan who is motoring well and a huge addition to this team, with forwards like Ryan, McCabe, Regan, Kelly, Durnin and Sullivan they will take a lot of stopping.
Ratoath obvioulsy have something going there with players like Mcmahon, McGill, Kelly, McGowan x3 or 4, Hanrahan X2, for Ratoath to win this they will need to physically blow Kiltake away which they are capable of, cracking game in store here, hope the referee doesnt make a god out of any free taker as both teams have super dead ball specialists.
Kiltale by 2 after extra time and achieve 5 in a row which would be some achievement.

StickFan (Meath) - Posts: 192 - 19/09/2018 10:48:44    2142645

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Kildalky and Trim will be a close one. It has always been close between them in recent year bar one or two games in different competitions. I don't think Heffernan will start the game as probably still not fit but coming on at half time could be a smart move. A few of their players seem to have upped it a gear in the last match.

Kildalky should be at full strength and will depend on if ducksy has his way or not. If trim keep him away from goal they stand a chance.

In the other game rathoath have what it takes to beat kiltale even if they have all their players back. Witht he football gone their players will be totally focused on this. Kiltale still have one or two still involved.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 476 - 19/09/2018 13:06:25    2142684

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Kildalkey v Trim. Trim won't have the freedom of navan like Killyon gave them. They have big names back and won't fear kildalkey. Long time since Kildalkey last played a championship game and could take a while to settle into it. If Trim can get a big start who knows. I'll still go with kildalkey by 5.

Rathoath v kiltale. Like the football forum here. Rathoath been talked up and set up for a big fall. Kiltale are hitting serious form now and will win this by 7 points plus and win the final at a canter. The two losses early in the year have just gave kiltale the kick they needed to get hunger going again. As for rathoath 2 or 3 top class hurlers but struggle in other areas of the field and kiltale will exploit them.

hurlinglad15 (Meath) - Posts: 36 - 21/09/2018 08:54:20    2143090

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Replying To hurlinglad15:  "Kildalkey v Trim. Trim won't have the freedom of navan like Killyon gave them. They have big names back and won't fear kildalkey. Long time since Kildalkey last played a championship game and could take a while to settle into it. If Trim can get a big start who knows. I'll still go with kildalkey by 5.

Rathoath v kiltale. Like the football forum here. Rathoath been talked up and set up for a big fall. Kiltale are hitting serious form now and will win this by 7 points plus and win the final at a canter. The two losses early in the year have just gave kiltale the kick they needed to get hunger going again. As for rathoath 2 or 3 top class hurlers but struggle in other areas of the field and kiltale will exploit them."
Yeah - think it will be Kildalkey v Kiltale in the final but I think both semis will be close! Don't think the Ratoath hurlers have been built up the way the footballers have and I think McGowan is a really top class player and Kelly is good too. They are a young team and probably need a couple more years.
Kiltale have the experience and I think they will win the whole thing out again!

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 292 - 21/09/2018 09:34:30    2143100

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