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Replying To royaldunne: "Absolutely. And to those questioning heroes remark. On Saturday evening they were heroes to the man. I'm not talking about league or previous game. I am talking about Saturday night. And no one could have asked for more." yes and I know I was hard on Andy at times but I am happy what I seen last Saturday night it's just so disappointing we didn't get the result but it will stand to the lads in time they will learn a lot from it meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 459 - 12/06/2018 20:25:06 2110728 Link
Replying To leftandwide: "Don't forget their still U-17, U-20 and junior teams that need our support" I meant on this really and the senior team..i will try to get to any underage game to support them grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1083 - 12/06/2018 20:35:00 2110738 Link
Replying To meath1977: "yes I agree it's the first time in my 35 years following Meath I have 0 hope of winning a game." Where's all this new found positivity coming from these were your comments before the game ! Along with slating Andy grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1083 - 12/06/2018 21:09:20 2110756 Link
Absolutely. Short summer for the seniors but it could make a difference if we could get behind our underage teams if you're still feeling hunger pangs for championship football. These young lads are all that matters now for this year! Come on the Royal! LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 414 - 12/06/2018 21:09:45 2110757 Link
Replying To meath1977: "we have a very good minor team and u 20 teams who have a very good chance of Leinster success and they deserve our support" Absolutely. And I'm looking forward to seeing both in action. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 12/06/2018 21:13:50 2110758 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Absolutely. And I'm looking forward to seeing both in action." juniors won tonight which sets up a Leinster final against Kildare Sunday week we found Ben Brennan from last year's juniors meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 459 - 12/06/2018 21:34:11 2110768 Link
Replying To meath1977: "yes very true look we were all disappointed with the longford game but we missed three open goals in the first half we should have won that game, but for effort the lads put in last Saturday people needs to be positive because there is a lot to be positive about and we do have a very bright future and give and take the back door and the open draw of it some teams gets the luck of the draw and can get through a few rounds because of that and even if we are gone by the 9th of June we are still in the top 12 teams in Ireland" You are talking hogwash about this top 12 teams in the country. It means nothing. Winning the leinster championship or getting promoted is what we yearn for. Getting back ti your stance on Mcentees carry on at the final whistle, do you really believe his behaviour was acceptable. Connolly interfered with a ref last year and Geragthy did it years ago and both were hit with heavy suspensions, and deservedly so. The difference being that they were players not managers. I have young children starting out playing football do you think I should encourage them to abuse Referees when they feel a decision went against them. Passion has to be channelled correctly, anger towards officials should be used to develop a siege mentality. The truth is that we let victory slip from our grasp atta (Meath) - Posts: 662 - 12/06/2018 21:35:34 2110770 Link
Replying To atta: "You are talking hogwash about this top 12 teams in the country. It means nothing. Winning the leinster championship or getting promoted is what we yearn for. Getting back ti your stance on Mcentees carry on at the final whistle, do you really believe his behaviour was acceptable. Connolly interfered with a ref last year and Geragthy did it years ago and both were hit with heavy suspensions, and deservedly so. The difference being that they were players not managers. I have young children starting out playing football do you think I should encourage them to abuse Referees when they feel a decision went against them. Passion has to be channelled correctly, anger towards officials should be used to develop a siege mentality. The truth is that we let victory slip from our grasp" look we would beat a lot of them teams in the back door Louth leitrim down Carlow Laois Waterford and on a good day Kildare longford and monaghan. Andy had a few words with the man that didn't give us a chance a drawing the game that's all. he didn't hit him or didn't look like hitting did you ever get upset in life when someone done something unfair on you meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 459 - 12/06/2018 21:46:20 2110776 Link
Replying To atta: "You are talking hogwash about this top 12 teams in the country. It means nothing. Winning the leinster championship or getting promoted is what we yearn for. Getting back ti your stance on Mcentees carry on at the final whistle, do you really believe his behaviour was acceptable. Connolly interfered with a ref last year and Geragthy did it years ago and both were hit with heavy suspensions, and deservedly so. The difference being that they were players not managers. I have young children starting out playing football do you think I should encourage them to abuse Referees when they feel a decision went against them. Passion has to be channelled correctly, anger towards officials should be used to develop a siege mentality. The truth is that we let victory slip from our grasp" He was right to be angry at him. He cost us the game. Also the analogies u use aren't the same. Mcentee never layed a finger on the ref. He gave him verbals. Hardly the same thing. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 12/06/2018 21:47:56 2110778 Link
Replying To grahamc9897: "Where's all this new found positivity coming from these were your comments before the game ! Along with slating Andy" o hope of winning the game was not slateing anyone we didn't play at all against longford and a bad longford team beat us meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 459 - 12/06/2018 21:48:38 2110779 Link
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/jim-mcguinness-positives-still-for-meath-after-disappointing-loss-to-tyrone-1.3527022?mode=amp Love him or hate him, Jim makes a few decent points. I particularly liked his passage on Meaths kick out strategy. I have gone on persistently about it since the O Byrne Cup game v Longford in January. Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 750 - 12/06/2018 21:50:28 2110780 Link
Fair play to the lads on Sat last,I for one was a proud meath man after it. However,I couldn't help but feel when extra time looked we were destined to fall short. We threw it all at Tyrone and fell short by a single score. Mcguinnes spoke of lack of experience,I tend to agree with him, but this is no fault of Mcentee and co. Meath, like Tyrone, were missing several players, arguably meath had a lot more missing than Tyrone giving the goings on of recent and still weren't far away from getting the result. It's fine margins I believe. You can look at it two ways. 1. Blame Mcentee for the mass exidus and lack of commitment players have shown him,both past and present. 2. Some players haven't got what it takes to be a county footballer and have decided that the commitment is not worth the result. Both are reasonable statements and everyone is entitled to their opinion. But remember one thing,it's a big wheel and it will turn again in our favour. It's all well saying boylan would have did this,Mcentee shouldn't have did that. Different times. I am optimistic and excited by the our under age teams coming through, two or three of the u20 will make a big change to our panel next year, I do believe Mcentee has finally got 30 lads who want to commit properly now after the weekend, eventually the panel has been filtered. I know on paper,it's far from our strongest.Aot of teams wouldn't compete if they lost 20 odd players for what ever reason. To me, the people who opt out,are not concerned about meaths future and thats fine. I would rather everyone gets behind a passionate manager and a passionate team who are trying to do the right thing for the county instead of criticising all that is wrong. We have a strong u17 and u20 team and our junior side has won again I see tonight. Let's use this momentum to build something that we can all be proud of. tackleberry (Meath) - Posts: 324 - 12/06/2018 21:55:17 2110783 Link
Replying To Royalio11: "https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/jim-mcguinness-positives-still-for-meath-after-disappointing-loss-to-tyrone-1.3527022?mode=amp Love him or hate him, Jim makes a few decent points. I particularly liked his passage on Meaths kick out strategy. I have gone on persistently about it since the O Byrne Cup game v Longford in January." great piece from Jimmy meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 459 - 12/06/2018 22:04:03 2110785 Link
Just got to reading the post match comments on this thread now. I actually disagree with people who say Meath have went backwards under McEntee, before he came in the main thing people said they wanted was a return to the fight that used to be in Meath teams. While results are not going as well as I hoped I think the softness that had come into Meath football in the years before McEntee is not there anymore. The second half collapses that had been the norm in the 2 years before Andy came in was for me the lowest points I remember watching Meath, this was completely going against our tradition. Also people saying how close we were to being relegated this year are ignoring how close Division 2 was this year, 2 points separated 3'place and 7'th place in an 8 team division. The Longford game was bad but then Meath did not get much luck in the qualifier draw in drawing Tyrone, there was a lot of bad teams we could have been drawn with which could have got us up and running again and then were unfortunate in the match itself. The most disappointing thing for me this season was POR's interview (which if I remember right was right before we played Cavan having started the league well). I thought that was very dusloyal and disruptive. Also sad to see many players walking away, Andy has a very good management CV, if more of our best players had got behind him I think we would be in a better place now. bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 768 - 12/06/2018 22:07:19 2110787 Link
Replying To meath1977: "biggy has still a lot to offer maybe starting him next year would be asking too much of him as the way we play but what a player to bring on with twenty minutes to go and Mickey bruke should stay too and he should get a gold medal for what he has put into Meath football since 2005 he missed out on the successful years but it does not stop him enjoying playing for Meath and giving everything" What age is Biggie?, he seems to be playing for a long time. I could see him being a very decisive and effective impact player. This is not to say he is not worth his place in the starting team as he would be but I think he could now possibly have a bigger impact on a match coming on fresh when the opposition is tiring 20 minutes from the end rather than starting a game. I could see him being good for a few scores in most games in this situation. A bit like Alan Brogan for Dublin a few years ago. It will sound mad to some but sometimes in the modern game the team you finish with is just as important as the team you start with. bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 768 - 12/06/2018 22:21:20 2110794 Link
Replying To bdbuddah: "What age is Biggie?, he seems to be playing for a long time. I could see him being a very decisive and effective impact player. This is not to say he is not worth his place in the starting team as he would be but I think he could now possibly have a bigger impact on a match coming on fresh when the opposition is tiring 20 minutes from the end rather than starting a game. I could see him being good for a few scores in most games in this situation. A bit like Alan Brogan for Dublin a few years ago. It will sound mad to some but sometimes in the modern game the team you finish with is just as important as the team you start with." I would think he is around 32 but I could be wrong meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 459 - 12/06/2018 22:34:33 2110800 Link
Replying To tackleberry: "Fair play to the lads on Sat last,I for one was a proud meath man after it. However,I couldn't help but feel when extra time looked we were destined to fall short. We threw it all at Tyrone and fell short by a single score. Mcguinnes spoke of lack of experience,I tend to agree with him, but this is no fault of Mcentee and co. Meath, like Tyrone, were missing several players, arguably meath had a lot more missing than Tyrone giving the goings on of recent and still weren't far away from getting the result. It's fine margins I believe. You can look at it two ways. 1. Blame Mcentee for the mass exidus and lack of commitment players have shown him,both past and present. 2. Some players haven't got what it takes to be a county footballer and have decided that the commitment is not worth the result. Both are reasonable statements and everyone is entitled to their opinion. But remember one thing,it's a big wheel and it will turn again in our favour. It's all well saying boylan would have did this,Mcentee shouldn't have did that. Different times. I am optimistic and excited by the our under age teams coming through, two or three of the u20 will make a big change to our panel next year, I do believe Mcentee has finally got 30 lads who want to commit properly now after the weekend, eventually the panel has been filtered. I know on paper,it's far from our strongest.Aot of teams wouldn't compete if they lost 20 odd players for what ever reason. To me, the people who opt out,are not concerned about meaths future and thats fine. I would rather everyone gets behind a passionate manager and a passionate team who are trying to do the right thing for the county instead of criticising all that is wrong. We have a strong u17 and u20 team and our junior side has won again I see tonight. Let's use this momentum to build something that we can all be proud of." great post meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 459 - 12/06/2018 22:35:54 2110801 Link
Biggy was a county minor in 2007, That would leave him only 29 this year. Was also on the 2007 senior panel. Has given Meath 11 years of great service. Gets terribly unfair treatment from some sections of the Meath support. Should never be asked to perform a running, tracking back game . Graham's position , bearing in mind those 11 gruelling years should be in the full forward line. He will be an important part of Meaths challenge in 2019. Triple H (Meath) - Posts: 551 - 12/06/2018 22:52:24 2110813 Link
Replying To meath1977: "I would think he is around 32 but I could be wrong" Biggie is 29 and has plenty of football left in him. Fair play to the lads on Saturday gave it their all. McEntee has to stay otherwise lads who walked away have won, if they don't want to play for their county let them off. Obviously there are lads who went away for college and work but lads who want a good time in usa and getting dollars for play are not worth worrying about. castleroyal (Meath) - Posts: 57 - 12/06/2018 22:52:43 2110814 Link
Replying To castleroyal: "Biggie is 29 and has plenty of football left in him. Fair play to the lads on Saturday gave it their all. McEntee has to stay otherwise lads who walked away have won, if they don't want to play for their county let them off. Obviously there are lads who went away for college and work but lads who want a good time in usa and getting dollars for play are not worth worrying about." Royaldunne would call that a cheap shot.....oh no he wont sorry, its ok to say things about lads who are gone Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1338 - 12/06/2018 23:30:25 2110824 Link