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Replying To nobull456: "I would expect the County Board or the director of football or whoever is monitoring progress.will discuss the failure to meet the stated objective to get promotion, Arising should follow remedial action. As you say status quo is not working," Assessing the League is a bit frustrating for us. Loosing to Down last year cost us promotion where as beating them this year kept us up.
One intriguing aspect of both years was the ease with which we beat a useful Clare team who have been comfortable in this Division.
MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 742 - 01/04/2018 22:00:13
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Replying To MillerX: "Assessing the League is a bit frustrating for us. Loosing to Down last year cost us promotion where as beating them this year kept us up.
One intriguing aspect of both years was the ease with which we beat a useful Clare team who have been comfortable in this Division." Just looked at highlights Cavan v Roscommon to day. What is even more frustrating is how much Roscommon in particular have improved by comparison to us. This year all we wanted was to see improvement as a team.We did not see that.
nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 841 - 01/04/2018 22:25:19
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We are wonderfully consistent at being inconsistent, the three games we won in the league were by 14 points (v Clare) 9 points (v Down) and 8 points (v Louth), the three we lost we by 6 points (v Cavan) 8 points (v Tipp) and 4 points (v Cork having been 7 down into injury time) and in the draw with Roscommon we mixed the good the bad and the ugly over the entire 70 minutes!!! This has been our story in the league for some years, we just cant produce a consistent pattern of results and it has cost us promotion, the defeat to Cavan seemed to knock the stuffing out of the team and a 6 day turnaround to Tipp and a defeat there buried them altogether but the plus side is winning the last two games, irrespective of the quality of opposition, when the pressure was immense so once again the Spring has been a mixed bag but that has to end and a level of consistency found as an indifferent Spring normally leads to an indifferent Summer. Division 2 is always tough, doesn't matter who is in or out of it or what its perceived quality is, it's a dog of a division that has a track record of inconsistent and unexpected results, who would have thought when we beat Clare by 14 points that they would finish ahead of us?? Who would have thought when Cork beat us at home that we would finish ahead of them?? Or that we would end up level on points with Tipp?? Who would have thought Down would be relegated having beaten Roscommon in Hyde Park. That's the nature of Division 2 and why consistency is key and until we develop that consistency and eradicate the poor defeats (and this years defeats were poor, Jesus I'm still scarred from Thurles), then promotion will elude us. But seeing as I'm on a chocolate buzz today I shall remain positive and I am looking forward to the Championship and seeing what transpires and performances like that of Galway today give me hope, things can change quickly with hard work and belief.........
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3590 - 01/04/2018 22:55:24
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Replying To Richieq: "We are wonderfully consistent at being inconsistent, the three games we won in the league were by 14 points (v Clare) 9 points (v Down) and 8 points (v Louth), the three we lost we by 6 points (v Cavan) 8 points (v Tipp) and 4 points (v Cork having been 7 down into injury time) and in the draw with Roscommon we mixed the good the bad and the ugly over the entire 70 minutes!!! This has been our story in the league for some years, we just cant produce a consistent pattern of results and it has cost us promotion, the defeat to Cavan seemed to knock the stuffing out of the team and a 6 day turnaround to Tipp and a defeat there buried them altogether but the plus side is winning the last two games, irrespective of the quality of opposition, when the pressure was immense so once again the Spring has been a mixed bag but that has to end and a level of consistency found as an indifferent Spring normally leads to an indifferent Summer. Division 2 is always tough, doesn't matter who is in or out of it or what its perceived quality is, it's a dog of a division that has a track record of inconsistent and unexpected results, who would have thought when we beat Clare by 14 points that they would finish ahead of us?? Who would have thought when Cork beat us at home that we would finish ahead of them?? Or that we would end up level on points with Tipp?? Who would have thought Down would be relegated having beaten Roscommon in Hyde Park. That's the nature of Division 2 and why consistency is key and until we develop that consistency and eradicate the poor defeats (and this years defeats were poor, Jesus I'm still scarred from Thurles), then promotion will elude us. But seeing as I'm on a chocolate buzz today I shall remain positive and I am looking forward to the Championship and seeing what transpires and performances like that of Galway today give me hope, things can change quickly with hard work and belief........." Good post.
bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 768 - 02/04/2018 00:50:39
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Replying To Richieq: "We are wonderfully consistent at being inconsistent, the three games we won in the league were by 14 points (v Clare) 9 points (v Down) and 8 points (v Louth), the three we lost we by 6 points (v Cavan) 8 points (v Tipp) and 4 points (v Cork having been 7 down into injury time) and in the draw with Roscommon we mixed the good the bad and the ugly over the entire 70 minutes!!! This has been our story in the league for some years, we just cant produce a consistent pattern of results and it has cost us promotion, the defeat to Cavan seemed to knock the stuffing out of the team and a 6 day turnaround to Tipp and a defeat there buried them altogether but the plus side is winning the last two games, irrespective of the quality of opposition, when the pressure was immense so once again the Spring has been a mixed bag but that has to end and a level of consistency found as an indifferent Spring normally leads to an indifferent Summer. Division 2 is always tough, doesn't matter who is in or out of it or what its perceived quality is, it's a dog of a division that has a track record of inconsistent and unexpected results, who would have thought when we beat Clare by 14 points that they would finish ahead of us?? Who would have thought when Cork beat us at home that we would finish ahead of them?? Or that we would end up level on points with Tipp?? Who would have thought Down would be relegated having beaten Roscommon in Hyde Park. That's the nature of Division 2 and why consistency is key and until we develop that consistency and eradicate the poor defeats (and this years defeats were poor, Jesus I'm still scarred from Thurles), then promotion will elude us. But seeing as I'm on a chocolate buzz today I shall remain positive and I am looking forward to the Championship and seeing what transpires and performances like that of Galway today give me hope, things can change quickly with hard work and belief........." Excellent post.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 02/04/2018 12:36:21
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Replying To Richieq: "We are wonderfully consistent at being inconsistent, the three games we won in the league were by 14 points (v Clare) 9 points (v Down) and 8 points (v Louth), the three we lost we by 6 points (v Cavan) 8 points (v Tipp) and 4 points (v Cork having been 7 down into injury time) and in the draw with Roscommon we mixed the good the bad and the ugly over the entire 70 minutes!!! This has been our story in the league for some years, we just cant produce a consistent pattern of results and it has cost us promotion, the defeat to Cavan seemed to knock the stuffing out of the team and a 6 day turnaround to Tipp and a defeat there buried them altogether but the plus side is winning the last two games, irrespective of the quality of opposition, when the pressure was immense so once again the Spring has been a mixed bag but that has to end and a level of consistency found as an indifferent Spring normally leads to an indifferent Summer. Division 2 is always tough, doesn't matter who is in or out of it or what its perceived quality is, it's a dog of a division that has a track record of inconsistent and unexpected results, who would have thought when we beat Clare by 14 points that they would finish ahead of us?? Who would have thought when Cork beat us at home that we would finish ahead of them?? Or that we would end up level on points with Tipp?? Who would have thought Down would be relegated having beaten Roscommon in Hyde Park. That's the nature of Division 2 and why consistency is key and until we develop that consistency and eradicate the poor defeats (and this years defeats were poor, Jesus I'm still scarred from Thurles), then promotion will elude us. But seeing as I'm on a chocolate buzz today I shall remain positive and I am looking forward to the Championship and seeing what transpires and performances like that of Galway today give me hope, things can change quickly with hard work and belief........." Great analysis as always Richie - I tend to be one of the more positive supporters and things can turn around very quickly with one result
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Replying To MillerX: "Assessing the League is a bit frustrating for us. Loosing to Down last year cost us promotion where as beating them this year kept us up.
One intriguing aspect of both years was the ease with which we beat a useful Clare team who have been comfortable in this Division." We tend to struggle against any ulster opposition which made the win against Down that but better
MeathWawa (Meath) - Posts: 61 - 02/04/2018 14:14:08
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Was too much analysis of the Louth game - was all about the result. No one will remember this match only the result and we didn't get relegated
First up - dreadful narrow pitch which suited Louth
15 behind the ball for most of first half
If we had won by 22 points ppl would say ah sure Louth are very poor - nothing to see there
We won by 8 and ppl are saying is that all you could win by
We did well to keep our discipline - Louth on a few occasions wanted to drag the game into a brawl
Lots of room for improvement
It's Start of April - championship is end of May where this game will log be forgotten about
#Anmhíabu
MeathWawa (Meath) - Posts: 61 - 02/04/2018 14:30:36
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Replying To MeathWawa: "Was too much analysis of the Louth game - was all about the result. No one will remember this match only the result and we didn't get relegated
First up - dreadful narrow pitch which suited Louth
15 behind the ball for most of first half
If we had won by 22 points ppl would say ah sure Louth are very poor - nothing to see there
We won by 8 and ppl are saying is that all you could win by
We did well to keep our discipline - Louth on a few occasions wanted to drag the game into a brawl
Lots of room for improvement
It's Start of April - championship is end of May where this game will log be forgotten about
#Anmhíabu" Well said
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 02/04/2018 16:49:39
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Replying To MeathWawa: "Was too much analysis of the Louth game - was all about the result. No one will remember this match only the result and we didn't get relegated
First up - dreadful narrow pitch which suited Louth
15 behind the ball for most of first half
If we had won by 22 points ppl would say ah sure Louth are very poor - nothing to see there
We won by 8 and ppl are saying is that all you could win by
We did well to keep our discipline - Louth on a few occasions wanted to drag the game into a brawl
Lots of room for improvement
It's Start of April - championship is end of May where this game will log be forgotten about
#Anmhíabu" Relatively quiet here the past week, we must have won a game or two and went about our business well.
dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 198 - 02/04/2018 16:56:31
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Didn't mean to quote you either MeathWaWa, should really have an edit button.
dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 198 - 02/04/2018 17:24:08
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Where can we get better, improve.
Is Longford a threat
Who will come in to strengthen us
Are we goin defensive or offensive again Longford.????
Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 02/04/2018 18:33:26
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Replying To Reco: "Where can we get better, improve.
Is Longford a threat
Who will come in to strengthen us
Are we goin defensive or offensive again Longford.????" We won the game, we are where we deserve to be. I was all the league matches and we won the games we deserved to win and lost the games we deserved to lose. All going well we will beat Longford and see where that takes us. All Louth wanted to do on saturday was fight, which incidentally brought cheers from some of their brain dead supporters. Delighted they are relegated.
meath87889699 (Meath) - Posts: 38 - 02/04/2018 19:11:56
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Replying To Reco: "Where can we get better, improve.
Is Longford a threat
Who will come in to strengthen us
Are we goin defensive or offensive again Longford.????" Where can we get better? ; hone our running game it's still very hit and miss.
Is longford a threat? Yes, every team in championship is a threat, longford have a good club championship and underage players who even beat dubs at their height. No team can be underestimated.
Who will come in? Tbh we pretty much have our strongest team out baring one or two. Only forde would seem obvious.
Are we going defense or offense. ? Probably a mixture of both , the days of all out attack are gone, I'd say we will play defense first with patient build up ie the running game with the two mcentee cos and biggy trying to break the line, after all should we win we know we can't go man to man with the next opponent so better to get use to one style of game.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 02/04/2018 22:29:13
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Replying To royaldunne: "Where can we get better? ; hone our running game it's still very hit and miss.
Is longford a threat? Yes, every team in championship is a threat, longford have a good club championship and underage players who even beat dubs at their height. No team can be underestimated.
Who will come in? Tbh we pretty much have our strongest team out baring one or two. Only forde would seem obvious.
Are we going defense or offense. ? Probably a mixture of both , the days of all out attack are gone, I'd say we will play defense first with patient build up ie the running game with the two mcentee cos and biggy trying to break the line, after all should we win we know we can't go man to man with the next opponent so better to get use to one style of game." Exactly Royal dunne - I know I will get shot down for suggesting this but I think andy has been working on this game plan for a certain team in the Leinster semi final all year. It may not work or we may not even come close but if we go man to man it won't work.
Anyway getting by longford is a tough task so all eyes and effort on that.
MeathWawa (Meath) - Posts: 61 - 03/04/2018 01:45:43
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Replying To grahamc9897: "Most posters saying the League was the priority This year and look how that worked out...Alot of people convinced we were going up.Not really sure what the thinking was behind that ..We simply cannot beat any decent teams it will be more of the same next year ..No chance of promotion in fact another survivial struggle" In fairness this year you could say 6 out of the 8 teams in division 2 struggled against relegation (Clare who finished third in division were 2 points better off than Down who got relegated). The table shows that tams between third and seventh in the table were evenly matched. Its amazing to think Down who took 6 points out of a possible 14 got relegated.
bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 768 - 03/04/2018 08:15:44
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We drew away from home against the team that won the division, we hammered Clare who only lost 1 other game, we performed really badly in 3 games which is a worry and never looked like getting a result in any of them. It was a funny league but the table doesnt lie at the end of it. We finished 13th in the country. which based on the last number of years is where we are. That is the reality
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Replying To MeathWawa: "Exactly Royal dunne - I know I will get shot down for suggesting this but I think andy has been working on this game plan for a certain team in the Leinster semi final all year. It may not work or we may not even come close but if we go man to man it won't work.
Anyway getting by longford is a tough task so all eyes and effort on that." And if his gameplan works how competitive do you think Meath would be against Dubs provided we were to defeat Longford?
RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 809 - 03/04/2018 10:34:26
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Replying To MeathWawa: "Exactly Royal dunne - I know I will get shot down for suggesting this but I think andy has been working on this game plan for a certain team in the Leinster semi final all year. It may not work or we may not even come close but if we go man to man it won't work.
Anyway getting by longford is a tough task so all eyes and effort on that." If I'm honest, I agree with you. I think everything has been aimed at one game. And I'll add something else I think he thought it would be enough to get us through the league. It wasn't and it backfired, but he won't change now. If someone doesn't like patient build up with plenty of lateral hand passing, then maybe look away come longford game. I might be wrong.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 03/04/2018 12:20:51
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Replying To RoylerKing: "And if his gameplan works how competitive do you think Meath would be against Dubs provided we were to defeat Longford?" I can't see a 16 point loss that's for sure.
Perhaps frustrate them into a error, make cluxton kick long , hopefully have Rooney back by then. I think we have the speed to match them in breaking the line. But dubs give away frees and will foul cos biggy or the mcentees going forward so we will need to be practicing from 50 line in , a lot will depend on lenihane in particular, but Tobin and Brennan as well.
But for the moment that is all hypothetical. Sole focus must be on a handy longford team who only for some questionable ref calls would be in division two next year.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 03/04/2018 12:29:07
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