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Galway were dreadful in their season under Walsh hammered by Mayo. In the second year again Galway were hammered by Tipp in Croke Park. In the third year he then got them promoted . It took him 3 years to get promotion to div 1. In his third year Galway were humilated v Roscommon in Connacht and awful v kerry in quater final. We defeated them last year. And in the last couple of year in 5 matchs in league and championship Galway have defeated Meath once in 5 attempts.

In his FOURTH year Walsh has turned things around. Galway were just as poor as Meath for three years they were just as inconsistent and looked defensively as weak as us. Many Galway fans were very critical of Walsh and Galway in the three years. Yet he was let to get on with the job and now Galway supporters are delighted that in his FOURTH year Galway have been the team of the national league and could win their first national league division 1 title in 35 years. It took time and patience but it seems Galway have turned the corner. It will take us the same amount of time and patience to turn things around. We need to learn from what Galway did. Steady as she goes. Galway gave Walsh 4 years so we need to give McEntee the same amount of time.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1046 - 13/03/2018 19:33:59    2084353

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Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "I would agree with most of everything you said Crinigan

PT isn't fit to be our county grounds which is true...but i am bought on the idea on the new development for PT,will a new stadium win all irelands and improve Meath football ? definitely not ! ,could the money be spent else were to improve Meath football like pay for a lot of coaches, kids camps and facilities ? yes that would help a lot.

The problem is we need both sadly a new stadium and coaches, kids camps and facilities...if i had to pick between the two i couldn't.



Withdrawing the county at senior level ...its a bitter pill to swallow if i am honest ,But saying that i do see your point ! The focus would shift to rebuilding football within the county it might give fans a reality check and they might instead put shoulder to the wheel at ground level to improve Meath Football ! But i don't like the idea of Withdrawing the county at senior level because of my own personal selfish reasons of wanting to win ! At least i am honest and didn't give you a cheap one linear " Crinigan you are not right in the head " But no its my own selfish reasons of wanting to win and dreaming we are going to get better for not wanting Withdrawing the county at senior level.

Meath club football ? Even if you came up with the greatest way to improve club football in Meath you are going to get the same clubs saying No.. because they like saying No :/


Magic wand :("
Withdrawing from senior inter county and then amalgamating clubs would seem to defeat the purpose. If we did that as you said a higher level of football. Would we not then put out the best team we have to compete at senior.i agree clubs must b looked at we are putting lot of effort into underage at all levels it seems.to progress that idimagine club comes in line with it.but for me at minute coaching is a closed shop on the county front it's who you know regardless of experience or passion or really wanting the job.as for pairc tailteann IT will b used for a lot more games I say outside the county when finished them in.the clubs will pay in some way regardless of what has been let believe.

Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 13/03/2018 19:35:14    2084354

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Replying To Reco:  "
Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "I would agree with most of everything you said Crinigan

PT isn't fit to be our county grounds which is true...but i am bought on the idea on the new development for PT,will a new stadium win all irelands and improve Meath football ? definitely not ! ,could the money be spent else were to improve Meath football like pay for a lot of coaches, kids camps and facilities ? yes that would help a lot.

The problem is we need both sadly a new stadium and coaches, kids camps and facilities...if i had to pick between the two i couldn't.



Withdrawing the county at senior level ...its a bitter pill to swallow if i am honest ,But saying that i do see your point ! The focus would shift to rebuilding football within the county it might give fans a reality check and they might instead put shoulder to the wheel at ground level to improve Meath Football ! But i don't like the idea of Withdrawing the county at senior level because of my own personal selfish reasons of wanting to win ! At least i am honest and didn't give you a cheap one linear " Crinigan you are not right in the head " But no its my own selfish reasons of wanting to win and dreaming we are going to get better for not wanting Withdrawing the county at senior level.

Meath club football ? Even if you came up with the greatest way to improve club football in Meath you are going to get the same clubs saying No.. because they like saying No :/


Magic wand :("
Withdrawing from senior inter county and then amalgamating clubs would seem to defeat the purpose. If we did that as you said a higher level of football. Would we not then put out the best team we have to compete at senior.i agree clubs must b looked at we are putting lot of effort into underage at all levels it seems.to progress that idimagine club comes in line with it.but for me at minute coaching is a closed shop on the county front it's who you know regardless of experience or passion or really wanting the job.as for pairc tailteann IT will b used for a lot more games I say outside the county when finished them in.the clubs will pay in some way regardless of what has been let believe."
I never said Reco Withdrawing from senior inter county and then amalgamating clubs....i was just replying to Crinigan

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 829 - 13/03/2018 19:46:42    2084359

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The single biggest issue for Meath. Single biggest problem. Has been our inability to deal with modern football tactics. The way we won 7 All Irelands with traditional kick and catch long ball game is not fit for purpose for 21st century football. Down Galway are in the same boat. They won Sams playing similar style football. Handpassing counties traditionally like Mayo Donegal have adapted to changes in football. Kerry and Dublin always played an hybrid mixture of handpassing and long ball. We have not reached All Ireland final or Galway have not won in Croker in champ in 17 years since 2001.

One of the main reasons is in 2002 2003 Armgh and Tyrone changed football.with sweepers blanket defences kick out strategy and more possession football. We have failed miserably to deal with these changes. None of our 7 managers in the last ten years have got to grips with these changes. We try and play sweepers it doesnt work. We try more possession football it doesnt work. Its been going on 17 years. We had a way of playing football. The McEntees would be steeped in this way of football. But football has changed. For me we have to do what Galway have done wit bringing in Tryone 2003 coach. We need an Ulster coach who can come in and get us organised. When we had Paul Grimley I thought we at times were tactically more aware. We need to do this again. I dont know who we could bring in. There would be good and bad coachs. So we need to be careful but someone like McEntee Brothers Brian McIver James McCartan Peter Canavan or Brian Dooher or the McNulty brothers could be options.
We need more underge sucess also but until we start playing in a more modern way we aint going anywhere fast

People r talking about problems at midfield at half back line. We have had problems at midfield and half back line for 17 years. We have not produced a top class midfielder since McDermont or a top class wing back since O Connell. We havent produced an effective centre back since McManus or a top class half back line since Foley Harnan and O Connell . The problems at midfield and half back have been going on near two decades under every single manager.

Finally I just want to say Barry Callaghan has potential as a manager. I should have said that. But he needs to get more experience at underage or club level. Young managers with potential like Callaghan Geraghty and Moyles need to be identified by the county board and given roles at underage level. We need sucession plan for when Andy needs. A manager in waiting. That's what other counties do.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1046 - 13/03/2018 20:03:56    2084365

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "The single biggest issue for Meath. Single biggest problem. Has been our inability to deal with modern football tactics. The way we won 7 All Irelands with traditional kick and catch long ball game is not fit for purpose for 21st century football. Down Galway are in the same boat. They won Sams playing similar style football. Handpassing counties traditionally like Mayo Donegal have adapted to changes in football. Kerry and Dublin always played an hybrid mixture of handpassing and long ball. We have not reached All Ireland final or Galway have not won in Croker in champ in 17 years since 2001.

One of the main reasons is in 2002 2003 Armgh and Tyrone changed football.with sweepers blanket defences kick out strategy and more possession football. We have failed miserably to deal with these changes. None of our 7 managers in the last ten years have got to grips with these changes. We try and play sweepers it doesnt work. We try more possession football it doesnt work. Its been going on 17 years. We had a way of playing football. The McEntees would be steeped in this way of football. But football has changed. For me we have to do what Galway have done wit bringing in Tryone 2003 coach. We need an Ulster coach who can come in and get us organised. When we had Paul Grimley I thought we at times were tactically more aware. We need to do this again. I dont know who we could bring in. There would be good and bad coachs. So we need to be careful but someone like McEntee Brothers Brian McIver James McCartan Peter Canavan or Brian Dooher or the McNulty brothers could be options.
We need more underge sucess also but until we start playing in a more modern way we aint going anywhere fast

People r talking about problems at midfield at half back line. We have had problems at midfield and half back line for 17 years. We have not produced a top class midfielder since McDermont or a top class wing back since O Connell. We havent produced an effective centre back since McManus or a top class half back line since Foley Harnan and O Connell . The problems at midfield and half back have been going on near two decades under every single manager.

Finally I just want to say Barry Callaghan has potential as a manager. I should have said that. But he needs to get more experience at underage or club level. Young managers with potential like Callaghan Geraghty and Moyles need to be identified by the county board and given roles at underage level. We need sucession plan for when Andy needs. A manager in waiting. That's what other counties do."
Are we still going down the road of all managers have to be from all ireland winning sides of the past. There is a succession system in place forca while now where management teams move up with their team. People should note that our last 3 minor sides have been pretty decent. 21's last year were also decent.

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1338 - 13/03/2018 20:24:12    2084372

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McEntee is the best man for the job. As far as I know Graham Geraghty managed Duleek and didn't make them any better and Moyles managed/managing Dunshaughlin and they haven't got any better either in my opinion. Just because someone played county doesnt mean they will be a good manager.

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 13/03/2018 20:24:22    2084373

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Replying To Richieq:  "Hang on hang in now let's just stop talking shite here, withdrawing the county team!! For the love of God I don't care if your serious or joking you should be ran out of the county for thinking about such nonsense, your proposal on the amalgamations and restructuring the championship has merit but it was voted against so the will is not in the county to take such a step. PT is needed not just for us but the whole of north Leinster, it has the potential to generate funds, it can be a huge benefit to the county overall. Being honest I'm sick if these knee jerk over the top reactions to defeat, I get annoyed and frustrated by what I see but why do people have difficulty in realising that we are 17 years away from the top table, this has not happened overnight. So called dream team managements have come and gone to no avail we are still where we are but we continuously ignored the basics, the underage and championship structures and plodded along thinking that turning the next corner would lead us back to the top. Well the next corner hasn't led us back and scrapping PT or pulling a county team or other such nonsense won't help either."
Thank goddess their is some sensible people on this site. I have never read such utter utter bs than scrap pt development and pull team out of all competitions, for what ? For county champs to be easily dismissed in Leinster. We haven't had a decent senior champion since dunboyne all those years ago.
The only thing I will give credence to is restructuring the senior championship with 2 down one up for 4 years or that only 1 teams progress from group stages to straight knock out. But we all know the delegates won't vote for either of them , so it's really pointless, there should be committee set up and their findings are final and implemented.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 13/03/2018 20:33:58    2084377

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Replying To Barney123:  "McEntee is the best man for the job. As far as I know Graham Geraghty managed Duleek and didn't make them any better and Moyles managed/managing Dunshaughlin and they haven't got any better either in my opinion. Just because someone played county doesnt mean they will be a good manager."
Any word how Geraghty is getting on with rhe Glen Emmets??

Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 13/03/2018 20:50:21    2084379

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Replying To Loyalroyal17:  "Any word how Geraghty is getting on with rhe Glen Emmets??"
Ollie is the man to ask about that.
I actually thought graham keeping dulleek up in his last year was a very good achievement, and I think that was proven last year. He did great work with the westmeath club a few years back , also the Longford players who he did a bit of coaching with praised him to the hilt.
That all been said, Andy must not be judged until after next year , perhaps a shake up in back room team might be a good idea. A few fresh ideas can never be a bad thing . Especially when things aren't going right.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 13/03/2018 21:23:34    2084388

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Replying To Analyst:  "Are we still going down the road of all managers have to be from all ireland winning sides of the past. There is a succession system in place forca while now where management teams move up with their team. People should note that our last 3 minor sides have been pretty decent. 21's last year were also decent."
No its doesnt matter if you won an All Ireland as long as you can manage well thats all that matters. Some managers who were great , won All Irelands as a player eg Dwyer Cody Heffernan Jimmy Barry Murphy Jim Galvin Nicholas English Paidi O se Jimmy McGuinness while other great mangers won very little as a player Mickey Harte John O Mahoney Brian McEniff . While other great managers didnt even play football eg Boylan. It doesnt matter.

But there is a serious lack of quality managers in the county. Its something we havent been good at , producing good managers. In the last 30 years we havent produced many quality managers and the only All Ireland winning ones were Boylan O Rourke Kenny and McEntee. Other them those 4 we havent produced many. Compared Dublin who have had quality managers in the laat 10 years like Paul Caffrey Pat Gilroy Dessie Farrell Jim Galvin. look at Mayo in the last 20 years they have had John Mahoney John Maughan James Horan Stephen Rochford Peter Forde Kevin McStay Tommy Lyons .

Andy McEntee is the most qualified man for the job and should be given 2 more years. But when Galvin goes Dessie Farrell can take over. Jack O Connor will probaly take over from Fitz Maurice. While Eddie Brennan is possibly been placed in the kilkenny under 21 job as a potential future replacement for Cody. Even if Andy is sucessful and I think he will be, we still need to have a sucession plan.

But there is very few quality managers out there. Who is the best manager at club level in Meath. Colm O Rourkre. But Colm is 60 now and is unlikely to ever be Meath manager now.

At underage level we havent won a minor leinster title in 10 years and we havent won an under 21 leinster title in 17 years. We have only played in 1 leinster under 21 final in 17 years. Our appearance in the 2014 leinster final is the only time the county has reached the leinster under 21 final in 17 years since 2001. (That is a shocking statistic. And explains the reason why we have declined) So there are no standout candidates at underage.

This is an area that wouldnt cost allot of money but just a bit of forward thinking . By bringing Callaghan Geraghty Moyles Seamus Kenny Joe Sheridan anyone young who has a bit of managerial experience and get them involved at underage or at the top clubs in the county. Geragthy definitely should be given under 17 or under 20 in the next few years. If he is going to be a future senior manager. Would it not make sense to give him the under 17 or under 20 job first. Pete McGrath Paudi O Se Jimmy Barry Murohy Ger Loughnane John O Mahoney Mickey Harte Jack O Connor Jim Galvin Jimmy McGuinees and Eamon Fitzmaurice all won senior All Ireland titles but where all inter county under 21 managers beforehand. We need to be more proactive and forward thinking and planning for the future as a county.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1046 - 13/03/2018 22:37:27    2084404

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Replying To oldsam_newsam:  "Those teams had some ordinary players also, moulded brilliantly by Sean Boylan.

I am not sure if you went to league games in those years but meath had some pretty horrendous performances and i remember Colm O' Rourke pulling them through games on several occasions.

Biggie has had to take on levels of responsibility that few of those players needed to do personally. So based on having watched those teams I am 100% of the opinion that Biggie would be a key member of those teams."
I get what your saying old sam but I just don't believe that Biggie would have started on any of the 80s or 90s sides. I travelled the length and breadth of the country since the late 70s and have also witnessed some dour spineless performances but I could count on one hand the amount of times any Meath side went down with a whimper. Biggie is not the kind of character in the mold of O Rourke who had the wherewithall to refocus the players around him.

ClonardGael (Meath) - Posts: 75 - 13/03/2018 23:36:21    2084416

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Thank goddess their is some sensible people on this site. I have never read such utter utter bs than scrap pt development and pull team out of all competitions, for what ? For county champs to be easily dismissed in Leinster. We haven't had a decent senior champion since dunboyne all those years ago.
The only thing I will give credence to is restructuring the senior championship with 2 down one up for 4 years or that only 1 teams progress from group stages to straight knock out. But we all know the delegates won't vote for either of them , so it's really pointless, there should be committee set up and their findings are final and implemented."
I'm not aware of that great Dunboyne team or when it existed (no dis-respect to Dunboyne) -it was obviously before my time -was it BC?

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2189 - 14/03/2018 00:23:02    2084421

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Replying To ClonardGael:  "I get what your saying old sam but I just don't believe that Biggie would have started on any of the 80s or 90s sides. I travelled the length and breadth of the country since the late 70s and have also witnessed some dour spineless performances but I could count on one hand the amount of times any Meath side went down with a whimper. Biggie is not the kind of character in the mold of O Rourke who had the wherewithall to refocus the players around him."
Guess we are all going to have to agree to disagree on this, IMO Biggie is the only one who would have started back in the day.

Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 14/03/2018 10:04:18    2084451

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "No its doesnt matter if you won an All Ireland as long as you can manage well thats all that matters. Some managers who were great , won All Irelands as a player eg Dwyer Cody Heffernan Jimmy Barry Murphy Jim Galvin Nicholas English Paidi O se Jimmy McGuinness while other great mangers won very little as a player Mickey Harte John O Mahoney Brian McEniff . While other great managers didnt even play football eg Boylan. It doesnt matter.

But there is a serious lack of quality managers in the county. Its something we havent been good at , producing good managers. In the last 30 years we havent produced many quality managers and the only All Ireland winning ones were Boylan O Rourke Kenny and McEntee. Other them those 4 we havent produced many. Compared Dublin who have had quality managers in the laat 10 years like Paul Caffrey Pat Gilroy Dessie Farrell Jim Galvin. look at Mayo in the last 20 years they have had John Mahoney John Maughan James Horan Stephen Rochford Peter Forde Kevin McStay Tommy Lyons .

Andy McEntee is the most qualified man for the job and should be given 2 more years. But when Galvin goes Dessie Farrell can take over. Jack O Connor will probaly take over from Fitz Maurice. While Eddie Brennan is possibly been placed in the kilkenny under 21 job as a potential future replacement for Cody. Even if Andy is sucessful and I think he will be, we still need to have a sucession plan.

But there is very few quality managers out there. Who is the best manager at club level in Meath. Colm O Rourkre. But Colm is 60 now and is unlikely to ever be Meath manager now.

At underage level we havent won a minor leinster title in 10 years and we havent won an under 21 leinster title in 17 years. We have only played in 1 leinster under 21 final in 17 years. Our appearance in the 2014 leinster final is the only time the county has reached the leinster under 21 final in 17 years since 2001. (That is a shocking statistic. And explains the reason why we have declined) So there are no standout candidates at underage.

This is an area that wouldnt cost allot of money but just a bit of forward thinking . By bringing Callaghan Geraghty Moyles Seamus Kenny Joe Sheridan anyone young who has a bit of managerial experience and get them involved at underage or at the top clubs in the county. Geragthy definitely should be given under 17 or under 20 in the next few years. If he is going to be a future senior manager. Would it not make sense to give him the under 17 or under 20 job first. Pete McGrath Paudi O Se Jimmy Barry Murohy Ger Loughnane John O Mahoney Mickey Harte Jack O Connor Jim Galvin Jimmy McGuinees and Eamon Fitzmaurice all won senior All Ireland titles but where all inter county under 21 managers beforehand. We need to be more proactive and forward thinking and planning for the future as a county."
Do because Simonstown won 2 championships o Rourke is now the best manager ? Never heard that said in past when they coughed up two keegan cups with a far superior side, 9 points up v Blackhall gaels. A good manager gets the best out of what he has. Lar Wall has to be commended on this front, as does Davy Cahill with Meath hill. Dunboyne are an example of the opposite

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1338 - 14/03/2018 11:46:45    2084486

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Replying To Analyst:  "Do because Simonstown won 2 championships o Rourke is now the best manager ? Never heard that said in past when they coughed up two keegan cups with a far superior side, 9 points up v Blackhall gaels. A good manager gets the best out of what he has. Lar Wall has to be commended on this front, as does Davy Cahill with Meath hill. Dunboyne are an example of the opposite"
Well he is the most sucessful underage manager this county ever produced. Managing 3 All Ireland winning school teams. The only Meath man to win underage All Irelands. Paul kenny was a louthman. And also the only international rules manager to win in Ireland and Australia ( Maybe someone else has done it recently but up to recently he was the only one winning home and away which would then wud make him the most sucessful international rules manager ever).

And also only the second manager to put senior club titles back to back in Meath football in the last 15 years . Winning his clubs first abd second title ever. Atop of being probaly our greatest footballer of the last 40 years. O Rourke is a great gaa man. Wall and Cahill are fine Meath men but O Rourke is one of the greatest footballers this county has ever produced and one of the greatest managers this county has ever produced seen as he is the only Meath manager with Sean Boylan and Father Tully to manage Meath teams to more then 1 All Ireland. He lost a county final a couple of years ago. Shouldnt be some black mark against all is other great achievements.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1046 - 14/03/2018 17:42:21    2084600

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "Well he is the most sucessful underage manager this county ever produced. Managing 3 All Ireland winning school teams. The only Meath man to win underage All Irelands. Paul kenny was a louthman. And also the only international rules manager to win in Ireland and Australia ( Maybe someone else has done it recently but up to recently he was the only one winning home and away which would then wud make him the most sucessful international rules manager ever).

And also only the second manager to put senior club titles back to back in Meath football in the last 15 years . Winning his clubs first abd second title ever. Atop of being probaly our greatest footballer of the last 40 years. O Rourke is a great gaa man. Wall and Cahill are fine Meath men but O Rourke is one of the greatest footballers this county has ever produced and one of the greatest managers this county has ever produced seen as he is the only Meath manager with Sean Boylan and Father Tully to manage Meath teams to more then 1 All Ireland. He lost a county final a couple of years ago. Shouldnt be some black mark against all is other great achievements."
I agree with almost all of what you say, but i was replying to your initial comment that he was "the best club manager in Meath"
His club management with Simonstown has ended in a fairytale way but the reality is that prior to 2016 you would struggle to find anyone in Simonstown who was singing his praises, in fact the opposite. His overall achievements are un questioned and as a player he was a legend among legends.

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1338 - 14/03/2018 20:44:40    2084636

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Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "
Replying To Reco:  "[quote=WhyTheLongFace:  "I would agree with most of everything you said Crinigan

PT isn't fit to be our county grounds which is true...but i am bought on the idea on the new development for PT,will a new stadium win all irelands and improve Meath football ? definitely not ! ,could the money be spent else were to improve Meath football like pay for a lot of coaches, kids camps and facilities ? yes that would help a lot.

The problem is we need both sadly a new stadium and coaches, kids camps and facilities...if i had to pick between the two i couldn't.



Withdrawing the county at senior level ...its a bitter pill to swallow if i am honest ,But saying that i do see your point ! The focus would shift to rebuilding football within the county it might give fans a reality check and they might instead put shoulder to the wheel at ground level to improve Meath Football ! But i don't like the idea of Withdrawing the county at senior level because of my own personal selfish reasons of wanting to win ! At least i am honest and didn't give you a cheap one linear " Crinigan you are not right in the head " But no its my own selfish reasons of wanting to win and dreaming we are going to get better for not wanting Withdrawing the county at senior level.

Meath club football ? Even if you came up with the greatest way to improve club football in Meath you are going to get the same clubs saying No.. because they like saying No :/


Magic wand :("
Withdrawing from senior inter county and then amalgamating clubs would seem to defeat the purpose. If we did that as you said a higher level of football. Would we not then put out the best team we have to compete at senior.i agree clubs must b looked at we are putting lot of effort into underage at all levels it seems.to progress that idimagine club comes in line with it.but for me at minute coaching is a closed shop on the county front it's who you know regardless of experience or passion or really wanting the job.as for pairc tailteann IT will b used for a lot more games I say outside the county when finished them in.the clubs will pay in some way regardless of what has been let believe."
I never said Reco Withdrawing from senior inter county and then amalgamating clubs....i was just replying to Crinigan"]Apologies

Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 16/03/2018 22:24:25    2084996

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Replying To Reco:  "
Replying To WhyTheLongFace:  "[quote=Reco:  "[quote=WhyTheLongFace:  "I would agree with most of everything you said Crinigan

PT isn't fit to be our county grounds which is true...but i am bought on the idea on the new development for PT,will a new stadium win all irelands and improve Meath football ? definitely not ! ,could the money be spent else were to improve Meath football like pay for a lot of coaches, kids camps and facilities ? yes that would help a lot.

The problem is we need both sadly a new stadium and coaches, kids camps and facilities...if i had to pick between the two i couldn't.



Withdrawing the county at senior level ...its a bitter pill to swallow if i am honest ,But saying that i do see your point ! The focus would shift to rebuilding football within the county it might give fans a reality check and they might instead put shoulder to the wheel at ground level to improve Meath Football ! But i don't like the idea of Withdrawing the county at senior level because of my own personal selfish reasons of wanting to win ! At least i am honest and didn't give you a cheap one linear " Crinigan you are not right in the head " But no its my own selfish reasons of wanting to win and dreaming we are going to get better for not wanting Withdrawing the county at senior level.

Meath club football ? Even if you came up with the greatest way to improve club football in Meath you are going to get the same clubs saying No.. because they like saying No :/


Magic wand :("
Withdrawing from senior inter county and then amalgamating clubs would seem to defeat the purpose. If we did that as you said a higher level of football. Would we not then put out the best team we have to compete at senior.i agree clubs must b looked at we are putting lot of effort into underage at all levels it seems.to progress that idimagine club comes in line with it.but for me at minute coaching is a closed shop on the county front it's who you know regardless of experience or passion or really wanting the job.as for pairc tailteann IT will b used for a lot more games I say outside the county when finished them in.the clubs will pay in some way regardless of what has been let believe."
I never said Reco Withdrawing from senior inter county and then amalgamating clubs....i was just replying to Crinigan"]Apologies"]No worries Reco buddy

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 829 - 16/03/2018 22:38:32    2084998

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There are very few managers that are consistently good throughout their careers. I think Colm O'Rourke has been a very good manager for most of the time he has been a manager but not always. Part of his success is that is is probably very perceptive as to when to take over a team and his reluctance to take on the Meath job is probably a message in itself about the state of the side & prospects.

The managers that have taken on the job of managing Meath at this time must be given he utmost respect and appreciation for taking on the role at such a difficult time as I reckon they are not being paid very much but I could be wrong there. That said it is hard not to criticise whe we see things we are not happy with and I think the Meath team has regressed this season and, for whatever reason, Andy & co. have lost players both from the team and squad that they could ill afford to lose.

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 17/03/2018 08:37:54    2085019

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Colm orurke?? Are you having a laugh?? That mighty big place mullaghnaghta didn't think much of his big town team. Plus he would have his nephew back too with his positive attitude. Colm orurke? Never never never.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 17/03/2018 18:40:05    2085116

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