Replying To daytona11:  "You really cant pass judgement on other counties moral compass."

Replying To Loyalroyal17:  "Saying over time is great 2 years plans etc but thats not going to help us now in the state we are in. We are not going to be championship ready any time soon until that back room is sorted and done pronto. We need help fast!"

Replying To meath1977:  "too many players are opting out under Andy that's a major problem we can't afford to lose eight or nine players like we did at the start of this year. there is a reason why they are opting out is it Andy only the players that are gone can answer that"

Replying To royaldunne:  "Andy mcenetee has 1 year left after this. He must be allowed to get that year. To say anything else is only going to put us back further. Andy came in after we narrowly avoided relegation to division 3 , got well beat by Dublin and throw away a 6 point lead in Derry. After 4 years of that management, this is only league of year 2.
Barry Callaghan had a very good underage team last year and somehow managed to get them nowhere, Trevor Giles was part of mods team for 3 years and was there against the defeat to westmeath.
The only one worth considering is graham geraghty and I think he needs another couple of years before inevitable taking over. Just another thing out of the 9 players that left panel , how many would be starters ? Tobin? That's it."

Replying To royaldunne:  "Andy mcenetee has 1 year left after this. He must be allowed to get that year. To say anything else is only going to put us back further. Andy came in after we narrowly avoided relegation to division 3 , got well beat by Dublin and throw away a 6 point lead in Derry. After 4 years of that management, this is only league of year 2.
Barry Callaghan had a very good underage team last year and somehow managed to get them nowhere, Trevor Giles was part of mods team for 3 years and was there against the defeat to westmeath.
The only one worth considering is graham geraghty and I think he needs another couple of years before inevitable taking over. Just another thing out of the 9 players that left panel , how many would be starters ? Tobin? That's it."

Replying To meath1977:  "Jones Rory Harnan Tobin toher"

Replying To Loyalroyal17:  "Exactly and id love to know what the story was with such a change of players today. I can see us losing alot more players...players we cant afford to lose but who would blame them."

Replying To royaldunne:  "Andy mcenetee has 1 year left after this. He must be allowed to get that year. To say anything else is only going to put us back further. Andy came in after we narrowly avoided relegation to division 3 , got well beat by Dublin and throw away a 6 point lead in Derry. After 4 years of that management, this is only league of year 2.
Barry Callaghan had a very good underage team last year and somehow managed to get them nowhere, Trevor Giles was part of mods team for 3 years and was there against the defeat to westmeath.
The only one worth considering is graham geraghty and I think he needs another couple of years before inevitable taking over. Just another thing out of the 9 players that left panel , how many would be starters ? Tobin? That's it."

Replying To daytona11:  "Id agree furlong re the manager. If the players arent there what can be done?

If the players are not or cannot compete at u16 minor and 20's its futile to expect them to produce the goods when they turn senior.

In Kildare we have put and emphasis on developing our underage structures and this is slowly begining to pay off.

Meath really need to do the same. Thats where things need to change. It'll take 10 years.

Andy McEntee cannot make a silk purse from a sows ear.

We havent won yet in div1 and will be relegated. We have given Tyrone Monaghan and Donegal a real rattle. But lads i wouldnt take 1 Meath player at the moment."

Replying To Loyalroyal17:  "Mickey Newman, Andrew Tormley"

Replying To Furlong1949:  "We are all disappointed. Its only natural any supporter of any team in any sport would be unhappy if their team lost 3 games. But the Meath supporters have a big role here also if we want sucess. Meaths drop from the top table you can blame the county board managers the players the lack of underage sucess, they all played a role. But the Meath supporters have also played a role.

Pressure from the supporters and dissatisfaction from the supporters meant we have had 7 managers in 12 years. We had 5 managers in 6 years between 2005 and 2011. Its was madness. It meant a talented a group of Meath players did not reach their full potential with the chopping and changing managers every 12 or 24 months . I believe we were good enough to win an All Ireland title between 2007 and 2011. Especially in 2010. Look at the players we had especially the forwards eg Brendan Murphy Niall McKeigue Darren Fay Kevin Reilly Shane McInarly Cormac McGuiness Caoihim King Anthony Moyles Nigel Crawford Mark Ward Peadar Byrne Stephen Bray Graham Geraghty David Bray Shane O Rourke Brian Farrell Cian Ward Joe Sheridan Graham Reilly Seamus Kenny. There was an All Ireland in those players. But because of the supporters impatience and dissatisfaction with managers, we didnt win 1.

Boylan wanted 3 more years. The fans wanted him gone a man who built more All Ireland winning teams then any other manager in gaa history ( Dwyer and Cody built 1 team, Boylan built 3 different All Ireland winning teams ). If he was left in charge he could have and I believe would have won his 5th All Ireland title with us.

Barry should have been given a second year. O Brien after leading us to All Ireland semi final and quater final a leinster title win and beating every team in leinster in 12 months including the Dubs by 10 points. O Brien should have been given 3 years. People blame the Clubs voting against the county board. But there was serious disquiet agmost the supporters after louth and kildare loses. Banty should have been given a third year after losing by three points to reigning All Ireland champions Dublin in a leinster final. The last time a leinster team got that close to Dublin. But he was let go.

We are great supporters. A football mad county. We all want the best for Meath football. But I dont see any easy way out. This is a long drawn out process back to the top. With many ups and downs. McEntee is the best bet for sucess. There is no manager in the county or outside that I can see turning us around. There is a serious lack of quality managers in the country outside div 1 and Galvins O Rourkes.

I expected this season to be the way it is. It took Sean Boylan 4 years to turn Mick lyons Gerry McEntee Martin O Connell Bernard Flynn and Colm O Rourke into winners. look at Galway. Under Walsh , Galway were very poor in his 1st year, some dreadful performances in his second year eg 8 point hammering by Tipp, in his third year more bad performances losing to us and been hammered by Roscommon and kerry in the championship. However in his 4th year look at Galway now. The Galway supporters gave Walsh the time and it is starting to pay off. McGeeney is years with Armagh and Armagh have spent 3 of the last 4 years in div 3 and with some dreadful loses eg Tyrone last year. Yet Armagh fans have let him get on with it.

Andy has made mistakes. But he is our best bet for sucess. But give him 4 years and let him get on with it. For me he is not even halfway through his term. He is only putting in foundations in terms of fitness. He needs to settle on a first 15 and from that things can improve. Confidence levels in the county are at an all time low. Pessimism and lack interest in the county are widespread. And thats to be expected with our worst decade since 20s.

But that does not mean we lose the plot again and another manager is dropped like a hot potatoe.
Its a long road back. It will take years to turn things around. But remember the season is far from over. league form can be incredibly misleading. The last time we were relegated we had our best year in the last 6 years, beating a highly fancied kildare team and getting witthin 3 points of Dublin. Galway are flying at the moment. But kildare had a great league in div 1 in 2013 beating Cork and Kerry, Derry also had a great season in div 1 a year or two after and reached league div q final , so did Cork reach league div 1 final a year after and Roscommon played similar to Galway in div 1 two years ago. And all those counties mentioned above had disastrous championship aftetwards.

The season is far from over. It will really start in June. And McEntee tenure is still in its infancy. Give him time and get someone like Geraghty involved with underage teams as manager so if Andy goes in 4 or 5 years time. Have a replacement with experience and not have another Mick O Dowd type appointment which Callaghan and Geraghty would be at the moment eg all young inexperienced managers. Farrell will be the next Dublin manager. Jack Connor will be the next kerry manager. And Fergal logan will be next Tyrone manager. Eddie Brennan will replace Cody more then likely. Other counties who are doing well have a sucession plan. Even if Andy is sucessful we should be looking at developing other manager's with potential. Other counties use the under 21 job as experience for the senior job. We need to be thinking along the same way. Geraghty needs to be brought in. If I was in charge of Meath football I would give Andy McEntee another 2 years and make Graham Geraghty Under 20 manager for two years and ask Anthony Moyles to take charge of the minors. That's what we should be doing. Be patient in the present and start planning for the future . Good things come to those who wait. It costs no money, just a bit of cop on and time and lots of patience."

Replying To royaldunne:  "That's refreshing. Kildare not taking a player from another county. Well at least that's a move in the right direction."

Replying To royaldunne:  "Andy mcenetee has 1 year left after this. He must be allowed to get that year. To say anything else is only going to put us back further. Andy came in after we narrowly avoided relegation to division 3 , got well beat by Dublin and throw away a 6 point lead in Derry. After 4 years of that management, this is only league of year 2.
Barry Callaghan had a very good underage team last year and somehow managed to get them nowhere, Trevor Giles was part of mods team for 3 years and was there against the defeat to westmeath.
The only one worth considering is graham geraghty and I think he needs another couple of years before inevitable taking over. Just another thing out of the 9 players that left panel , how many would be starters ? Tobin? That's it."

Replying To CastleBravo:  "In 2016 when we "narrowly avoided relegation", we came 5th. If we win our remaining 2 games this year we will finish...5th.

That's a funny looking "improvement"."

Replying To meath1977:  "Micko was the manger and Trevor had a good year with John Evans and banty in 2012 he is too good of a football brain just to forget about him and Barry was very unlucky against West Meath in that u 21 game a very bad nights rain the game should never went ahead"

Replying To ROYALOPTIMIST:  "I don't think you can blame supporters for Meaths current problems and I do not think the supporters were to blame for ending either of the two Eamon's tenure's.

I am close enough to a few Armagh supporters and if you think they or a lot of players are happy with McGeeney then you have that one wrong. He has the support of most of the county board however.

But I do agree that we need to ensure that we develop our underage structures and that should include identifying younger managers and getting them involved with our underage teams and developing them as well as their teams, and in the process creating a succession plan."

Replying To daytona11:  "You really cant pass judgement on other counties moral compass."

Replying To royaldunne:  "Andy mcenetee has 1 year left after this. He must be allowed to get that year. To say anything else is only going to put us back further. Andy came in after we narrowly avoided relegation to division 3 , got well beat by Dublin and throw away a 6 point lead in Derry. After 4 years of that management, this is only league of year 2.
Barry Callaghan had a very good underage team last year and somehow managed to get them nowhere, Trevor Giles was part of mods team for 3 years and was there against the defeat to westmeath.
The only one worth considering is graham geraghty and I think he needs another couple of years before inevitable taking over. Just another thing out of the 9 players that left panel , how many would be starters ? Tobin? That's it."

Replying To Furlong1949:  "Im not blaming Meath supporters. The county board managers players lack of underage sucess or all primary reasons why we have declining. But a secondary reason was sacking managers every few years. Many ex players have said this. 7 managers in 12 years. The supporters dissatisfaction had a role in managers been sacked. Supporters had a role in Boylan going the greatest gaa man this county ever produced. But the supporters couldnt get him out the door quick enough. There was allot of disquiet after Meaths performances v louth and kildare in 2010. There has been allot of revision since because we havent got anywhere close to 2010 since. But at the time many where unhappy with O Brien. Banty sure we tried to get him out in the middle of the season. Became a laughing stock . He then had our best season in the last 6 years and we havent done better since. But still he had to go. Supporters where not happy. Thats the truth. To say otherwise would be wrong."