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Lads just end this debate not going to solve anything! Big match tommorow with players who want to be there !
grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1083 - 17/02/2018 20:54:27
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Replying To grahamc9897: "Lads just end this debate not going to solve anything! Big match tommorow with players who want to be there !" Agreed, I've wasted enough time on this.
Hopefully by tomorrow eve we will be top of this division. And looking good for promotion.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 17/02/2018 22:19:20
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Replying To browncows: "Royalio11 (Meath) - He is entitled to make his comments and he did give good service to the county team over the last number of years.- Now you and a couple of other keyboard warriors may not like what he says, and I may not agree with all he has said. However, his opinion is more important than anything that you or I (or any other poster), may put on this tread." In what way is it more important?
Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6158 - 18/02/2018 09:14:30
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Replying To browncows: "Royalio11 (Meath) - He is entitled to make his comments and he did give good service to the county team over the last number of years.- Now you and a couple of other keyboard warriors may not like what he says, and I may not agree with all he has said. However, his opinion is more important than anything that you or I (or any other poster), may put on this tread." His opinion is more important?
Poor choice of words there browncows.
If you took the time to read my post clearly you would see that I fully understand the time these guys dedicate (which is far greater than the time I spend travelling and supporting the team).
What I don't appreciate is how this former player is now criticising and running down the current team and management. That I cannot accept, and it is a disgrace.
Why would he go on record to make such comments? It shows his true character.
As far as most are concerned this is no longer an item worth talking about. I am going to keep looking to the future of this team, still unbeaten in 2018, and although it's unlikely we will win a Leinster or an All Ireland this year. I firmly believe we will make inroads and build stronger to contest finals
Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 750 - 18/02/2018 10:39:41
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Replying To Royalio11: "His opinion is more important?
Poor choice of words there browncows.
If you took the time to read my post clearly you would see that I fully understand the time these guys dedicate (which is far greater than the time I spend travelling and supporting the team).
What I don't appreciate is how this former player is now criticising and running down the current team and management. That I cannot accept, and it is a disgrace.
Why would he go on record to make such comments? It shows his true character.
As far as most are concerned this is no longer an item worth talking about. I am going to keep looking to the future of this team, still unbeaten in 2018, and although it's unlikely we will win a Leinster or an All Ireland this year. I firmly believe we will make inroads and build stronger to contest finals" To be fair to Paddy (and I will readily admit to not being his biggest fan), he didn't actually criticise the management or current players at all. Yes, I would have preferred that he quietly walked away and kept his comments to himself. However I thought he was actually quite measured and restrained in what he said. The comments he made were more about himself, and his own difficulties in committing to effectively a full time training schedule, than they were about the management, or panel.
I think you can read between the lines when he says "From 2011 to now, the committment levels have gone through the roof". I would hazard a guess that the majority of this has happened in the past 18 months since McEntee has taken over. Obviously I think McEntee is right to demand this of the players - if we want to compete with the best, the least we can do is to train as hard as them. But Paddy did not criticize McEntee for demanding this extra committment. Instead he said "I just can't do it anymore".
I read the article as being that Paddy doesn't feel that he can do the level of training needed from a modern top level footballer, when he doesn't see Meath as realitic title contenders in the near future. Thats a valid opinion, even if you disagree with it. It is certainly an issue that is just going to get worse and worse in most counties over the coming years. Its one thing training 2-3 nights a week if you have no hope of winning. Its another thing doing it for 5-6 nights a week, plus matches.
The ironic thing is that not having a keeper that gives away 2-3 points a game by kicking balls out over the sideline or into the full-forwards arms, may actually get Meath a little closer to where they want to be. I guess time will tell on that one.
anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 18/02/2018 12:11:11
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lads you cant argue with his comments,he has called it as it is,we are still miles behind the top 8,okay if we persist with the young lads coming through we can make steps but at his age he cant see it and i agree with him.does anybody believe on this thread we are a top 10 team ?
thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 856 - 18/02/2018 13:03:28
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Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6158 - 18/02/2018 13:20:38
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Replying To Jinxie: "Is it not about wether being top 8/10 Is achievable. And it absolutely is." you sure ? we are going nowhere,trounced today against an average cavan team
thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 856 - 18/02/2018 15:37:17
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Replying To thelutch: "you sure ? we are going nowhere,trounced today against an average cavan team" One game will hardly change his opinion will it?
The main problem today was the fact that the workrate dropped considerably. We cannot afford to do that.
ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 18/02/2018 16:17:01
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Replying To thelutch: "you sure ? we are going nowhere,trounced today against an average cavan team" Btw we were poor today but I wouldn't consider 5 points a trouncing, but whatever suits your agenda..
ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 18/02/2018 16:23:15
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southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 709 - 19/02/2018 16:08:29
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Replying To thelutch: "lads you cant argue with his comments,he has called it as it is,we are still miles behind the top 8,okay if we persist with the young lads coming through we can make steps but at his age he cant see it and i agree with him.does anybody believe on this thread we are a top 10 team ?" There are a good few about who think we are a top 6 team. I am repeating myself here but deluded doesn't begin to describe a lot of meath supporters. Why can't we accept that we are a long way off being in a position where we could even contemplate going up to div 1. We should beat Louth but getting anything else will be a big ask. Quinlivan could beat us on his own next Saturday
Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1338 - 19/02/2018 19:35:34
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I understand why some supporters have little hope. This has been our worst decade since the 1920s. Since 2001 we have fallen from the top table. Between 2007 and 2010 we again started to climb back up that table. But we have fallen back again. The reason why all this happened is because when Boylan left (and anytime a great manager leaves after decades in charge the team and everything it around it falls to pieces). Just look at Man Utd after Ferguson left. Thats what happened in Meath. At the start of this decade the 07 to 10 team started to break up. While between 2013 and 2017, we were transition as the whole panel had a massive overhaul ,as a set of new young players arrived on the scene. We are now entering a stronger period. But the defeatist atitude that some have is no good for us. We know were we are. We know what problems we have. But the future can be a better place. But some need to have more faith and believe in their county. Understand we are Meath, we are Meath. And that means something. Read the below story and learn what being from Meath really means .
This is Meath football. The below story shows the true spirit of Meath football. If u want to know about the spirit of Meath football read below. I meet people in my county every week from young to old who will say that we will beat the Dubs soon. Yes some of have a defeatest atitude . But there is many in the county from young to old who still believe. Maybe the story below will explain why we always believe we will beat the Dubs someday. Not this year or next year but some day soon
In the summer of 1964 Dublin were the reigning All Ireland champions. A team with St Vincent's player and led by Kevin Heffernan they were seen as unbeatable and were changing the face of football along with Down with new tactics and new training. They were expected to dominate leinster and football for years ( Where have we heard that before ). In the early 60s Meath were in divsion 3 and seen as a county living off former glories. But three brothers the Quinn brothers from a small tiny parish in rural Meath had difference ideas Meath were playing Dublin in the leinster final. Meath were rank outsiders and Dublin the hottest of hot favourites were seen as unbeatable. No one gave Meath a chance.
Behind the scenes the three Quinn brothers father became critically ill and had very little time to live. On the Saturday before the match he became critically ill and it was believed he would not last the night. The local priest annointed him. The brothers didnt know what to do. Would it be appropriate to play the leinster final the next day. They believed it wouldnt. But there father told them on his deathbed, he whispered to them not just to play Dublin but to go out to Croker on Sunday and beat the Dubs. So with all their family uncles and aunts with tears in their eyes they decided that they were going to play and bring back the Delaney Cup to show their sick father. As Jack Quinn said Theres a job to be done lets f#$$//kin do it". Their mothers words left no room for doubt as they left the house the next morning as she said to each one of the brothers as they left the house "Go go Meath Meath'.
They went to the match and the local priest comes into the dressing room before the match and tells the brothers, the father is still alive. The brothers were magnificent in the first half. With Jack putting in an exhibition of high fielding. Unbelievably Meath were ahead at half time. In the dressing room.at the interval the news was passed on to the Quinns that the father was still alive. Meath came out in the second and gave the single greatest performance by a Meath team in leinster final ever. With the three Quinn brothers to the fore Meath dethroned the reigning All Ireland champions by 7 points. In the papers the next day an Irish Press journalist wrote " the Dubs may as well have tried to take a high ball of the top of Nelson pillar as it take it from.Martin and Jack Quinn".
As the cup was lifted the the Quinns received news that their father was still alive. That night the 3 Quinn brother Jack Martin and Gerry brought the Delaney cup back to kilbride to show their ailing father. They say word of the famous victory seemed to revive their fathers spirit. He came around on the Monday and took it all in looking at Delaney cup with pride as their mother read him articles from the newspaper about the match and his 3 sons. As she read about the match one of his last words was " thats fantastic ". It was emotional. And he died on the Wednesday 3 days after the leinster final.
The brothers and Meath would unluckily lose to the great Galway team.in the semi final. In 66 they won leinster and defeated the great Down team by 14 points in a semi final again they lost to the great Galway team in the final. The next year they won Sam. And in 1968 toured Australia and played Auzzie Rules and were unbeaten as they toured and invented the international rules. They would beat Offaly in the greatest leinster final of them all in 1970.
The truth is not only did they dethrone in 64 but they sent Dublin to the football wilderness for ten years as Dublin failed to win the Delaney cup for ten years till Heffos Army emerged in 1974.
And thats Meath football. Just as Mick lyons once said "Id live and die to play the Dubs". Martin Quinn said that when we heard what lyons said he told a local journalist " We all feel that way".
And he is right for many Meath people we all feel that way when it comes to beating Dublin. And the McEntee brothers are another set of great Meath brothers following in the footsteps of the Quinn brothers carrying on that great Meath tradition that is passed from one generation to another from one decade to another from one set of Meath footballers to another. And that is , "its mid July the hay is saved and The Dubs are beaten". A rallying cry for Meath footballers down through the ages.
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Replying To Furlong1949: "I understand why some supporters have little hope. This has been our worst decade since the 1920s. Since 2001 we have fallen from the top table. Between 2007 and 2010 we again started to climb back up that table. But we have fallen back again. The reason why all this happened is because when Boylan left (and anytime a great manager leaves after decades in charge the team and everything it around it falls to pieces). Just look at Man Utd after Ferguson left. Thats what happened in Meath. At the start of this decade the 07 to 10 team started to break up. While between 2013 and 2017, we were transition as the whole panel had a massive overhaul ,as a set of new young players arrived on the scene. We are now entering a stronger period. But the defeatist atitude that some have is no good for us. We know were we are. We know what problems we have. But the future can be a better place. But some need to have more faith and believe in their county. Understand we are Meath, we are Meath. And that means something. Read the below story and learn what being from Meath really means .
This is Meath football. The below story shows the true spirit of Meath football. If u want to know about the spirit of Meath football read below. I meet people in my county every week from young to old who will say that we will beat the Dubs soon. Yes some of have a defeatest atitude . But there is many in the county from young to old who still believe. Maybe the story below will explain why we always believe we will beat the Dubs someday. Not this year or next year but some day soon
In the summer of 1964 Dublin were the reigning All Ireland champions. A team with St Vincent's player and led by Kevin Heffernan they were seen as unbeatable and were changing the face of football along with Down with new tactics and new training. They were expected to dominate leinster and football for years ( Where have we heard that before ). In the early 60s Meath were in divsion 3 and seen as a county living off former glories. But three brothers the Quinn brothers from a small tiny parish in rural Meath had difference ideas Meath were playing Dublin in the leinster final. Meath were rank outsiders and Dublin the hottest of hot favourites were seen as unbeatable. No one gave Meath a chance.
Behind the scenes the three Quinn brothers father became critically ill and had very little time to live. On the Saturday before the match he became critically ill and it was believed he would not last the night. The local priest annointed him. The brothers didnt know what to do. Would it be appropriate to play the leinster final the next day. They believed it wouldnt. But there father told them on his deathbed, he whispered to them not just to play Dublin but to go out to Croker on Sunday and beat the Dubs. So with all their family uncles and aunts with tears in their eyes they decided that they were going to play and bring back the Delaney Cup to show their sick father. As Jack Quinn said Theres a job to be done lets f#$$//kin do it". Their mothers words left no room for doubt as they left the house the next morning as she said to each one of the brothers as they left the house "Go go Meath Meath'.
They went to the match and the local priest comes into the dressing room before the match and tells the brothers, the father is still alive. The brothers were magnificent in the first half. With Jack putting in an exhibition of high fielding. Unbelievably Meath were ahead at half time. In the dressing room.at the interval the news was passed on to the Quinns that the father was still alive. Meath came out in the second and gave the single greatest performance by a Meath team in leinster final ever. With the three Quinn brothers to the fore Meath dethroned the reigning All Ireland champions by 7 points. In the papers the next day an Irish Press journalist wrote " the Dubs may as well have tried to take a high ball of the top of Nelson pillar as it take it from.Martin and Jack Quinn".
As the cup was lifted the the Quinns received news that their father was still alive. That night the 3 Quinn brother Jack Martin and Gerry brought the Delaney cup back to kilbride to show their ailing father. They say word of the famous victory seemed to revive their fathers spirit. He came around on the Monday and took it all in looking at Delaney cup with pride as their mother read him articles from the newspaper about the match and his 3 sons. As she read about the match one of his last words was " thats fantastic ". It was emotional. And he died on the Wednesday 3 days after the leinster final.
The brothers and Meath would unluckily lose to the great Galway team.in the semi final. In 66 they won leinster and defeated the great Down team by 14 points in a semi final again they lost to the great Galway team in the final. The next year they won Sam. And in 1968 toured Australia and played Auzzie Rules and were unbeaten as they toured and invented the international rules. They would beat Offaly in the greatest leinster final of them all in 1970.
The truth is not only did they dethrone in 64 but they sent Dublin to the football wilderness for ten years as Dublin failed to win the Delaney cup for ten years till Heffos Army emerged in 1974.
And thats Meath football. Just as Mick lyons once said "Id live and die to play the Dubs". Martin Quinn said that when we heard what lyons said he told a local journalist " We all feel that way".
And he is right for many Meath people we all feel that way when it comes to beating Dublin. And the McEntee brothers are another set of great Meath brothers following in the footsteps of the Quinn brothers carrying on that great Meath tradition that is passed from one generation to another from one decade to another from one set of Meath footballers to another. And that is , "its mid July the hay is saved and The Dubs are beaten". A rallying cry for Meath footballers down through the ages." Hello , just want to say you have joined a long list of posters who people have lied about and said you are my good self, you have a great insight into Meath past and I love reading them. Don't be disparaged by people from Kildare, Cavan, or wherever pretending to be from Meath to have a pop of me, from what I recall it was jinxie, ziggy, htaem bobjaffacake, bettustownroyal, Bert, loyalroyal, and more recently grahammc (and since we very seldom agree it was hilariously funny). Keep posting furlong and ignore those who try to put you down, leave them to me, I'll destroy them lol
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 20/02/2018 22:20:48
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Replying To Furlong1949: "I understand why some supporters have little hope. This has been our worst decade since the 1920s. Since 2001 we have fallen from the top table. Between 2007 and 2010 we again started to climb back up that table. But we have fallen back again. The reason why all this happened is because when Boylan left (and anytime a great manager leaves after decades in charge the team and everything it around it falls to pieces). Just look at Man Utd after Ferguson left. Thats what happened in Meath. At the start of this decade the 07 to 10 team started to break up. While between 2013 and 2017, we were transition as the whole panel had a massive overhaul ,as a set of new young players arrived on the scene. We are now entering a stronger period. But the defeatist atitude that some have is no good for us. We know were we are. We know what problems we have. But the future can be a better place. But some need to have more faith and believe in their county. Understand we are Meath, we are Meath. And that means something. Read the below story and learn what being from Meath really means .
This is Meath football. The below story shows the true spirit of Meath football. If u want to know about the spirit of Meath football read below. I meet people in my county every week from young to old who will say that we will beat the Dubs soon. Yes some of have a defeatest atitude . But there is many in the county from young to old who still believe. Maybe the story below will explain why we always believe we will beat the Dubs someday. Not this year or next year but some day soon
In the summer of 1964 Dublin were the reigning All Ireland champions. A team with St Vincent's player and led by Kevin Heffernan they were seen as unbeatable and were changing the face of football along with Down with new tactics and new training. They were expected to dominate leinster and football for years ( Where have we heard that before ). In the early 60s Meath were in divsion 3 and seen as a county living off former glories. But three brothers the Quinn brothers from a small tiny parish in rural Meath had difference ideas Meath were playing Dublin in the leinster final. Meath were rank outsiders and Dublin the hottest of hot favourites were seen as unbeatable. No one gave Meath a chance.
Behind the scenes the three Quinn brothers father became critically ill and had very little time to live. On the Saturday before the match he became critically ill and it was believed he would not last the night. The local priest annointed him. The brothers didnt know what to do. Would it be appropriate to play the leinster final the next day. They believed it wouldnt. But there father told them on his deathbed, he whispered to them not just to play Dublin but to go out to Croker on Sunday and beat the Dubs. So with all their family uncles and aunts with tears in their eyes they decided that they were going to play and bring back the Delaney Cup to show their sick father. As Jack Quinn said Theres a job to be done lets f#$$//kin do it". Their mothers words left no room for doubt as they left the house the next morning as she said to each one of the brothers as they left the house "Go go Meath Meath'.
They went to the match and the local priest comes into the dressing room before the match and tells the brothers, the father is still alive. The brothers were magnificent in the first half. With Jack putting in an exhibition of high fielding. Unbelievably Meath were ahead at half time. In the dressing room.at the interval the news was passed on to the Quinns that the father was still alive. Meath came out in the second and gave the single greatest performance by a Meath team in leinster final ever. With the three Quinn brothers to the fore Meath dethroned the reigning All Ireland champions by 7 points. In the papers the next day an Irish Press journalist wrote " the Dubs may as well have tried to take a high ball of the top of Nelson pillar as it take it from.Martin and Jack Quinn".
As the cup was lifted the the Quinns received news that their father was still alive. That night the 3 Quinn brother Jack Martin and Gerry brought the Delaney cup back to kilbride to show their ailing father. They say word of the famous victory seemed to revive their fathers spirit. He came around on the Monday and took it all in looking at Delaney cup with pride as their mother read him articles from the newspaper about the match and his 3 sons. As she read about the match one of his last words was " thats fantastic ". It was emotional. And he died on the Wednesday 3 days after the leinster final.
The brothers and Meath would unluckily lose to the great Galway team.in the semi final. In 66 they won leinster and defeated the great Down team by 14 points in a semi final again they lost to the great Galway team in the final. The next year they won Sam. And in 1968 toured Australia and played Auzzie Rules and were unbeaten as they toured and invented the international rules. They would beat Offaly in the greatest leinster final of them all in 1970.
The truth is not only did they dethrone in 64 but they sent Dublin to the football wilderness for ten years as Dublin failed to win the Delaney cup for ten years till Heffos Army emerged in 1974.
And thats Meath football. Just as Mick lyons once said "Id live and die to play the Dubs". Martin Quinn said that when we heard what lyons said he told a local journalist " We all feel that way".
And he is right for many Meath people we all feel that way when it comes to beating Dublin. And the McEntee brothers are another set of great Meath brothers following in the footsteps of the Quinn brothers carrying on that great Meath tradition that is passed from one generation to another from one decade to another from one set of Meath footballers to another. And that is , "its mid July the hay is saved and The Dubs are beaten". A rallying cry for Meath footballers down through the ages." While I like the article on the attitude of the Meath players and supporters had over the years,just one thing to correct you on,their was no Delaney cup that time.The Delaney cup did not come into existence until the 2000's,not sure what year.
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This is a direct quote from Meath Chronicle journalist Fergal Lynch. To backup what he said it just wasn't good enough and we're at best a mid table Division2 team.
RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 809 - 20/02/2018 23:56:01
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Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1046 - 21/02/2018 14:47:26
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Replying To Beaney123: "While I like the article on the attitude of the Meath players and supporters had over the years,just one thing to correct you on,their was no Delaney cup that time.The Delaney cup did not come into existence until the 2000's,not sure what year." It is the same cup only that it was renamed the Delaney Cup when Laois won it in the naughies.
MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 742 - 21/02/2018 15:16:59
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