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Replying To longroadback:  "I dont mean drop him from panel and have no doubt that he will be in our 15 come championship, I mean for the next game. The way we are trying to play requires constant motion from 5,7,10 and 12, he doesnt look fresh at the moment and feel he could benefit not starting"
When you put it like that i 100% agree...

Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 31/01/2018 15:35:12    2072823

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I know it's not aimed at me. But I would love to see these six firing on all cylinders.
10 cillian O'Sullivan
11 podge mckeever
12 graham Reilly
13 joey wallace
14 Donal lenihane
15 Ben Brennan

With subs Brian McMahon, Eamonn wallace and sean Tobin
Now I'm talking about them at their best.
Can you imagine that, we would even give the dubs socks."
Jim gavin is shaking with fear......

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1338 - 31/01/2018 20:36:12    2072903

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Replying To Analyst:  "Jim gavin is shaking with fear......"
Good man. Thanks for your long insightful post it was most eye widening. Cheers

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 31/01/2018 21:13:27    2072914

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I know it's not aimed at me. But I would love to see these six firing on all cylinders.
10 cillian O'Sullivan
11 podge mckeever
12 graham Reilly
13 joey wallace
14 Donal lenihane
15 Ben Brennan

With subs Brian McMahon, Eamonn wallace and sean Tobin
Now I'm talking about them at their best.
Can you imagine that, we would even give the dubs socks."
IMAGINE ... I just fell off the chair laughing

hawkeye1 (Dublin) - Posts: 13 - 31/01/2018 22:06:09    2072925

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Replying To hawkeye1:  "IMAGINE ... I just fell off the chair laughing"
Don't pretend you've a furnished gaff!

GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 275 - 31/01/2018 22:48:50    2072937

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I know it's not aimed at me. But I would love to see these six firing on all cylinders.
10 cillian O'Sullivan
11 podge mckeever
12 graham Reilly
13 joey wallace
14 Donal lenihane
15 Ben Brennan

With subs Brian McMahon, Eamonn wallace and sean Tobin
Now I'm talking about them at their best.
Can you imagine that, we would even give the dubs socks."
Ah come on RD you're living in dreamland again. Time to get real and admit the 'fact' that we're light years behind this current Dublin team.

RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 809 - 31/01/2018 23:13:16    2072949

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Good man. Thanks for your long insightful post it was most eye widening. Cheers"
It was pretty much all that your nonsense deserved!

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 31/01/2018 23:27:27    2072954

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "We have had a centre back problem since Enda McManus retired. I thought Brian Menton Donal Keoghan and Padraig Harnan would all solve this centre back problem. But all the above are more effective as wing backs.

All the top teams recently have had strong half back line eg McCarthy Sullivan McCaffrey ( Dublin) Harte Gormley Jordan ( Tyrone), Lacey ( Donegal), T O Se Brosnan O Mahony ( Kerry) and Keegan Vaughan Boyle ( Mayo). Some of the best players in Ireland now play in the half back line. 20 years ago the best players played in the half forward libe eg Giles Donnellan. Now there is little room for half forwards on the half forward line. Half backs can start attacks more on the half back line. To be a sucessful team now you have to have a top class half back line. The last time we had a top class half line was Foley Harnan O Connell. We also had a great half back line in the 60s with Collier Cunninghan and Reynold Snr.

We now have two centre backs. Two different type of centre backs. Conlon is a more an attacking centre back with Atleticism. Power is a more a holding centre back. Conlon is centre back more in the style of Cian Sullivan . Power would be more similar in style to Ger Brennan.

I would play both with Power at 6 and Conlon at 7. Conlon has all the attributes to become a top class number 7. Conlon is a more eye catching player. Bombing forward with the ball. But an holding centre back is not as eye catching. They dont attack up the field and score great points. A holding centre back holds the middle and has great positinal sense, which Power has. You miss a holding centre back when heis gone. The centre of you defence is more weaker.

Lavin has allowed Keoghan to mive to wing back. He is wasted at corner baxk. I think if he is left at number 5 for a couple of years he would become one the best wing backs in the country. A keoghan Power Conlon half back line has huge potential. S McEntee will become a quality effective wing back . His attitude is terrific and he works and works and works. Hes just learning the game at inter county level in the half back line at the moment. We do have options here we haven't not had for a while in the centre back line."
"Lavin has allowed keoghan to move to wing back" that maybe true but lavin got absolutely roasted by diarmuid murtagh on Sunday, murtagh going off after 55 minutes injured was an absolute gamechanger, lavin also at major fault for Longford goal in O'Byrne cup semi, plus on his debut under odowd I seem to remember eoin Bradley of derry kicking 7 points while lavin marking him

redser123 (Meath) - Posts: 306 - 01/02/2018 00:10:35    2072962

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Replying To redser123:  ""Lavin has allowed keoghan to move to wing back" that maybe true but lavin got absolutely roasted by diarmuid murtagh on Sunday, murtagh going off after 55 minutes injured was an absolute gamechanger, lavin also at major fault for Longford goal in O'Byrne cup semi, plus on his debut under odowd I seem to remember eoin Bradley of derry kicking 7 points while lavin marking him"
I know for a fact that you weren't at 2 of these games. So please go to a game and don't just watch highlights before judging a player

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 833 - 01/02/2018 02:20:27    2072972

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Wherever keoghan is playing he'll do a job but let's call a.spade a spade......hes our best corner back and come championship or a big league game he'll get put back on the opposition's moat dangerous forward. Problem is we have no dependable intercounty corner back that can keep his man to a point or scoreless.....its a pity cause keoghan looks very effective at 5

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 709 - 01/02/2018 06:55:43    2072977

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Replying To meathforsam09:  "McKeever has been playing his best football in close to goal yet you have him on the 40?"
He has to make room for his club man in full forward.

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 01/02/2018 08:04:11    2072981

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Replying To GlasgowRoyal:  "Don't pretend you've a furnished gaff!"
Hahaha. Brilliant

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 01/02/2018 08:19:07    2072984

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Replying To RoylerKing:  "Ah come on RD you're living in dreamland again. Time to get real and admit the 'fact' that we're light years behind this current Dublin team."
Well maybe in Kildare you are. You need to beat Monaghan to have a chance of staying up in div 1. Big ask.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 01/02/2018 08:21:41    2072985

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Replying To redser123:  ""Lavin has allowed keoghan to move to wing back" that maybe true but lavin got absolutely roasted by diarmuid murtagh on Sunday, murtagh going off after 55 minutes injured was an absolute gamechanger, lavin also at major fault for Longford goal in O'Byrne cup semi, plus on his debut under odowd I seem to remember eoin Bradley of derry kicking 7 points while lavin marking him"
Yeah, But Lavin is only learning his trade. keoghan played Corner back for years. But keoghan was prone to a roasting to from time to time there as well. Keoghan said on a interview that he missed two months of training this year due to studying. So I expect Donal to get fitter in the coming weeks ahead. Where he can be more effective half back. Also Lavin hopefully will get more comfortable in his role consonantly changing people around is not going to help the over all performance of the team as unit. But defending is a team effort theses days, not just the full back line. It starts with corner forwards and winning breaking ball in midfield starving the other team of possession, Not giving the ball away cheaply etc. You find our come back was last Sunday was largely down to wining alot of breaking ball in the midfield.
Thus nobody has to do anything in our full back line once we have possession. I think Keoghan is great player probably our best having him at corner back I think is a bit of a waste. I prefer to see him out around the middle of the field. Where I think over all he will more effective.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1192 - 01/02/2018 09:51:52    2072996

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I would agree with the posters who say we are not far off Dublin -with a little bit of tweaking! If you travel by the 109 bus from Navan (centre of the county) you are only 45 minutes away and only 30 minutes away by car- not sure how far away it is in furlongs-maybe 240!.
On a serious note I do agree with Redser123 and at least one or two could be added to that. I do think that taking 1 point from Hyde Park was good away result.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2189 - 01/02/2018 10:37:35    2073016

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Replying To redser123:  ""Lavin has allowed keoghan to move to wing back" that maybe true but lavin got absolutely roasted by diarmuid murtagh on Sunday, murtagh going off after 55 minutes injured was an absolute gamechanger, lavin also at major fault for Longford goal in O'Byrne cup semi, plus on his debut under odowd I seem to remember eoin Bradley of derry kicking 7 points while lavin marking him"
Lavin played against Derry twice under O'Dowd in 2016, league and championship. In the league he went off injured after 22 minutes, in the championship he kept his man to a point from play. Eoin Bradley didn't play the league game and came on after 47 minutes in the championship and didn't score. Both match reports available online

TakeYourPoints6 (Meath) - Posts: 223 - 01/02/2018 11:10:50    2073029

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Well maybe in Kildare you are. You need to beat Monaghan to have a chance of staying up in div 1. Big ask."
RD do you seriously think we wouldn't of got the same beating Kildare got on Saturday night against Dublin? Also were hardly a good team to slag about going to Monaghan after the last tanking we got up there!
Just a bit of cop on and stop talking us up when we've done nothing yet

meathforsam09 (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 01/02/2018 11:14:47    2073030

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Replying To meathforsam09:  "RD do you seriously think we wouldn't of got the same beating Kildare got on Saturday night against Dublin? Also were hardly a good team to slag about going to Monaghan after the last tanking we got up there!
Just a bit of cop on and stop talking us up when we've done nothing yet"
I actually didn't mention us, I was responding to a Kildare supporter pretending to be from Meath. And showing him we have all copped on to his anti Meath bile. Now if you late to this then that's your problem, not mine.
And last time I checked it was a free country, you may not agree with my assessment which you are entitled not to. However don't dare ever tell me I can't say it or write it... understood???

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 01/02/2018 11:52:49    2073050

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Replying To bobkarlgees:  "Yeah, But Lavin is only learning his trade. keoghan played Corner back for years. But keoghan was prone to a roasting to from time to time there as well. Keoghan said on a interview that he missed two months of training this year due to studying. So I expect Donal to get fitter in the coming weeks ahead. Where he can be more effective half back. Also Lavin hopefully will get more comfortable in his role consonantly changing people around is not going to help the over all performance of the team as unit. But defending is a team effort theses days, not just the full back line. It starts with corner forwards and winning breaking ball in midfield starving the other team of possession, Not giving the ball away cheaply etc. You find our come back was last Sunday was largely down to wining alot of breaking ball in the midfield.
Thus nobody has to do anything in our full back line once we have possession. I think Keoghan is great player probably our best having him at corner back I think is a bit of a waste. I prefer to see him out around the middle of the field. Where I think over all he will more effective."
Absolutely agree with all that.
As I have said here many times before, if your full back line is getting roasted, you need to take a long hard look st your half backs/midfielders/half forwards. There is not a full back or corner back in the country who can mark a decent forward if they are being constantly left one on one, and there is plenty of good ball coming in to them. Defending must start much further out the pitch.

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 01/02/2018 11:53:39    2073051

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Replying To browncows:  "I would agree with the posters who say we are not far off Dublin -with a little bit of tweaking! If you travel by the 109 bus from Navan (centre of the county) you are only 45 minutes away and only 30 minutes away by car- not sure how far away it is in furlongs-maybe 240!.
On a serious note I do agree with Redser123 and at least one or two could be added to that. I do think that taking 1 point from Hyde Park was good away result."
Again I'm been lied about. I will repeat I said if all them I mentioned plus subs had their best game for Meath then we would give even dubs socks, as we would certainly worry them. Now when has the last time any team including Dublin had 6 forwards have personal best games all on the same day? And subs the same. It was a hypothetical answer to a question. It ain't going to happen but if all 6 were firing on all cylinders then yes we would give them socks.
Has the educational system in Meath broken that much in recent years? Or are some people naturally just, ..... well.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17035 - 01/02/2018 12:04:12    2073055

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