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Was more impressed with David to be honest!
Meathmaster (Meath) - Posts: 251 - 26/09/2017 18:17:57 2050753 Link 0 |
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That is exactly what i meant, he stood out as not being good enough for county
Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1338 - 26/09/2017 19:05:56 2050768 Link 13 |
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What is it with football people from North meath an the chip on their shoulder about North meath football. Does anyone really care that all the championship are won by North meath clubs or all won by south meath clubs or whatever. I don't think I've ever looked at a championship winner in meath and thought "oh there's another one for North meath or chalk that one down for south meath" meath is meath and who gives a toss which part of meath they are from
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 145 - 27/09/2017 00:04:04 2050873 Link 1 |
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Not sure what you have been watching!- Dunboyne were away ahead of Simonstown in first half last Sunday but when it counted they were behind at the final whistle. Dunboyne's defence was poor with no standout players with their best defender in midfield You appear confused! Ratoath are slightly better than Dunboyne as results have shown, but not better than Summerhill or Kells. Results speaks for themselves and no spin changes the fact. All the dark horses have been beaten!
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2189 - 27/09/2017 01:29:09 2050881 Link 13 |
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Who was their best defender in midfield? David Gallagher and Ronan Jones have been midfield for dunboyne for the last 3 years with neither playing in defence so not sure what your referring to
TakeYourPoints6 (Meath) - Posts: 223 - 27/09/2017 09:47:29 2050922 Link 0 |
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Was Jones not playing centre forward Sunday. I thought all the matches over the weekend was very competitive with little between any teams- in the end most of the winners had that little bit of experience which generally counts when it is close. There were some very clear-cut chances missed for goals in two of the matches with the most glaring miss by Dunboyne in the first half. One of the goals against them in the second half was a very obvious square ball - but these things happen. At a critical stage in the second half when a couple of goals had been scored against them (and the had retained a 2 point lead) they created a very good fast move but a recipient of the vital pass took his eye of the ball and lost possession with Simonstown scoring at the other end. It was though a great comeback by the Simonstown who were all over the place at halftime.
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2189 - 27/09/2017 13:25:39 2051006 Link 13 |
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I'd imagine he's referring to Finn who lined out with number 9 on his back. Ironically it was another midfielder in Gally who should have been brought full back the minute SOR went in at full forward for second half, as ultimately it was the aerial threat that brought about the comeback, along with momentum and some luck, which is needed to reduce such a gap. Easy for me to say, but in hindsight I'd have brought Jonesy back as well to deal with high balls, just do whatever it takes to deal with the bombardment, you can't swing 13 points by kicking points alone with 30 minutes of football to play. But that's easy for me to say, and sometimes tough lessons are required to learn and win ugly. Such tactics are not a factor at county level anymore, but evidently they do still work at club level. That's not taking away from the quality of the game however, as a Simonstown supporter said to me after the game, two teams deserved a standing ovation leaving the field after that. dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 198 - 27/09/2017 15:43:08 2051069 Link 0 |
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Undoubtedly some very entertaining knockout stages games in the Meath championship this year and that's what we need in Meath football, but it begs a very obvious question, why do we allow such a rubbish group stage system before the real stuff starts? Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8583 - 27/09/2017 18:43:49 2051120 Link 12 |
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There shouldn't be any backlash your 100 % right it should be 4 groups of 4 with 2 going through from each with the previous years semi finalists all being kept apart in the group stages. You would still have situations where the best 4 could end up in the one group but look at this year's even where o mahonys were blessed to make a qf after beating 3 poor teams where as Ashbourne missed out just behind 3 of the main teams and would have probably finished above o mahonys in their group
Northsidegaels (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 27/09/2017 19:55:53 2051140 Link 1 |
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i completely agree with everything you are saying Htaem ..i think senior should be 4 groups of 4 and who ever is at the bottom of the groups should be relegated ! I would have a intermediate and Junior conferences championship ! "Just for talk sake i have 32 teams" 8 groups of 4 Top 2 teams play in the intermediate championship (group winners and runner ups) , Bottom 2 teams play Junior. Semi final teams of intermediate championship qualify for senior championship the following year ! its a cut throat championship i will admit ...but you are getting more teams experiencing senior championship football. WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 829 - 27/09/2017 21:10:02 2051160 Link 15 |
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I'd be happy with 4 groups of 4 Northsidegaels, or even a 16 team knockout format where teams beaten in the first round get a second chance but that's it, any further loses and you're out. Also I really think 2 relegations would be no harm either, too many teams just getting by every year, there must be a greater degree of urgency and 2 relegations out 16 teams might focus the minds. Sadly I find it hard to see us really progressing at intercounty level as long as we persist with such a tame county championship structure, it does a disservice to our club players. Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8583 - 27/09/2017 21:20:42 2051162 Link 10 |
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Not a bad suggustion either WhyTheLongFace, it is cut-throat but that's what we need in Meath football, we've stagnated terribly under our current structure and I think fixing it would help us improve in the long term.
Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8583 - 27/09/2017 21:50:59 2051169 Link 9 |
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Mayo senior championship is ran off very well, 4 groups of 4. Each team gets one home, one away and one neutral game. TakeYourPoints6 (Meath) - Posts: 223 - 27/09/2017 22:19:19 2051179 Link 0 |
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Are you trying to say that the poor teams make it into the knockout stages. Dun/Ashbourne's group was no better than any of the other group and the easiest group was the one which let 3 teams automatically qualify for knockout stage. Na fianna do not become a poor side overnight in the same way that a couple of wins for any team does not make them great
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2189 - 27/09/2017 22:29:31 2051184 Link 13 |
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I agree with you
Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1338 - 27/09/2017 22:42:17 2051190 Link 14 |
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As a person in North Meath, I think a lot of people are looking at the North Meath/South Meath thing all wrong. Dublin, Cork and Kerry are 3 other counties that I can think of that you hear a lot about North and South and I'm not 100% sure but I think the Kerry championship is 2 separate championships... I'm not sure whether some people remember but there was a time when Sean Boylan drew a line through the county, North Meath/South Meath, and picked players to play against one another in a series of games so the management team would get a look at players from all over the county. Personally I think it's a very good way for lads that may be slipping under the radar to get a shot at impressing the McEntee and his selectors under the pressure of him standing on the line.
bowza123 (Meath) - Posts: 42 - 28/09/2017 12:16:04 2051301 Link 2 |
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Yep - agree with that!
Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 284 - 28/09/2017 12:45:32 2051312 Link 0 |
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I'm actually pleasantly surprised by the amount of agreement here, I thought a few posters would take issue with me criticizing our champsionship structure. But it seems there are a few people on the same wave length and in fairness the county board has made attempts to change the structure, it's just disappointing that it hasn't happened yet. Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8583 - 28/09/2017 17:20:13 2051412 Link 8 |
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There's 4 or 5 posters who agree with you. 99.999% of folk involved in football never post to this or any other tread/board, so the relevance of who agrees or disagrees matter little. Its changing the format/organisation in clubs that makes good players-not how we organise a senior championship. I do agree that 16 teams are enough and you do need a league type of championship otherwise we would have a situation where a player on a country team may only play one match for his club. Every player knows the rules of the competition before it starts. As I said before I would like to see every player in the county given the opportunity of playing in the senior championship (if they are good enough). As a previous poster said the Kerry solution by giving players a platform to impress seems good to me. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2189 - 28/09/2017 18:41:15 2051434 Link 13 |
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I agree completely with you on the need to change the structure of the championship, and with the format you suggested. I disagree completely on the role of the county board in trying to implement change. In my opinion the county board have shown a complete lack of leadership regarding the county championship. That is nothing new- the problems with too many clubs dates back to the county board bottling a decision to relegate acteam to intermediate, instead allowing 17 teams play senior. Then instead of doing the right thing and relegating 2 teams the next year, they bottled it again and increased it to 18. At the end of the day, the county board is pure politics, and politics is all about getting things done. Whatever deals, horsetrading, threats, or promises that were needed to get the proper championship structures in place should have been done. You certainly can't afford to leave it to the whims of the delegates. anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 28/09/2017 19:07:19 2051441 Link 12 |