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Club championships 2017

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Replying To cavanblueman:  "Once the championship is over, Co Board need to look at revamping the league. The 12 Senior Teams legible for the Senior Championship next year should be your Division One Teams and so on. The league needs to be on par with the championship, with competitive league football, it might, just might improve the standards of the County Team."
Add 4 amalgamations to the 12 Senior teams . Something like west Cavan , mid Cavan , east Cavan and south Cavan.
Form these teams of the best junior and intermediate players so as to give all good players at that level the experience of playing at a higher level.
For example mid cavan could consist of teams like buttlersbridge belturbet drumalee. Something like that.
It would mean all good players at these clubs had a chance of Senior football as well as their own competition.
16 teams , 4 groups of 4 and the top 1 in each group contest the Semi finals .
Use scoring averages. Job done you'd have an exciting championship run off very quickly

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 30/08/2017 15:10:58    2040780

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Don't know how 4 amalgamations will work along with those teams playing in their own grade Intermediate and Junior. It might work in Kerry ,where those teams have pride in those areas ,East Kerry , West Kerry etc.
They would need to training together for a good while. Not a few get togethers a few weeks before the championship.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2216 - 30/08/2017 15:59:50    2040797

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Don't think the amalagation's would work.
As was said above, maybe in Kerry there is pride in areas/districts as well as their clubs but I don't think that is the case in Cavan and I think players would only care about playing and winning with their own clubs or maybe getting on the county.
And they have had county trials in December the last few years and lads like Barry Doyle etc. who played well in Junior get spotted at the big games in Breffni get called in anyway so you would probably end up with no one seeing the point in playing for the amalgamations.

PatTheDandy (Cavan) - Posts: 282 - 30/08/2017 16:26:10    2040812

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The whole GAA scene in Cavan needs a total revamp and this should be lead by the County Board, but again, they dont care, they're only interested in making money and pumping it into a County Team that continues to fail year after year. Tell me, what good did the €50k GPS system do this year? absolutely nothing, why do you need to monitor the distance a lad covers, you need to monitor how he's plays football!

Time for the County Board to take the lead, meet with all club reps and decide a way forward - if amalgamations for some clubs are the way forward, then so be it. Whats the point in Clubs (Killeshandra) entering competitions when they cant field teams? No disrespect to Killeshandra, they had a great 2015, but sadly lost some of their players. Would it not make sense for them to amalgamate with Arva and go out an try to win a Senior Championship, wouldnt that be great for that area. Clubs are all but a name now, the die hard club chairmen and club reps are a dying breed now, time for the younger generation to make a stand and take the GAA by the scruff of the neck and make it their own.

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 441 - 31/08/2017 09:25:21    2041008

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Replying To cavanblueman:  "The whole GAA scene in Cavan needs a total revamp and this should be lead by the County Board, but again, they dont care, they're only interested in making money and pumping it into a County Team that continues to fail year after year. Tell me, what good did the €50k GPS system do this year? absolutely nothing, why do you need to monitor the distance a lad covers, you need to monitor how he's plays football!

Time for the County Board to take the lead, meet with all club reps and decide a way forward - if amalgamations for some clubs are the way forward, then so be it. Whats the point in Clubs (Killeshandra) entering competitions when they cant field teams? No disrespect to Killeshandra, they had a great 2015, but sadly lost some of their players. Would it not make sense for them to amalgamate with Arva and go out an try to win a Senior Championship, wouldnt that be great for that area. Clubs are all but a name now, the die hard club chairmen and club reps are a dying breed now, time for the younger generation to make a stand and take the GAA by the scruff of the neck and make it their own."
The whole GAA scene in Cavan needs a total revamp and this should be lead by the County Board, but again, they dont care, they're only interested in making money and pumping it into a County Team that continues to fail year after year. Tell me, what good did the €50k GPS system do this year.

cavanblueman are you 100% positive that €50K was spent on the GPS. Now I am asking you are you 100% sure???

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 31/08/2017 11:55:12    2041094

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Standout junior and intermediate players need s chance or a way to compete at a higher level within the club scene .
And if this through amalgamations well so be it.

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 31/08/2017 12:38:30    2041114

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "Standout junior and intermediate players need s chance or a way to compete at a higher level within the club scene .
And if this through amalgamations well so be it."
would ye ever go way with yer amalgamations nonsense!! It ain't going to happen so stop posting it on here and discuss the club football that is actually happening!!

5seniormedals (Cavan) - Posts: 58 - 31/08/2017 14:19:59    2041171

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amalgamations won't work only at underage when there are a few small clubs struggling. If you combine two or three clubs there will be lads loosing out at first team and b level and the GAA will loose out as numbers will drop. It's bad enough as it it.
a few junior teams tried it a few years back but got no respect. They were playing in the junior championship with their clubs on the friday or saturday and the amalgamated team were playing on the Sunday in the senior championship. Two championship games in the space of 2 to 3 days.
Forget amalgamations

StirringIt (Cavan) - Posts: 374 - 31/08/2017 14:52:58    2041185

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Replying To 5seniormedals:  "would ye ever go way with yer amalgamations nonsense!! It ain't going to happen so stop posting it on here and discuss the club football that is actually happening!!"
Typical Cavan mentality. What are they 5 Senior Scor medals???

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 31/08/2017 15:08:50    2041195

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Replying To seanorinn:  "The whole GAA scene in Cavan needs a total revamp and this should be lead by the County Board, but again, they dont care, they're only interested in making money and pumping it into a County Team that continues to fail year after year. Tell me, what good did the €50k GPS system do this year.

cavanblueman are you 100% positive that €50K was spent on the GPS. Now I am asking you are you 100% sure???"
Yes the original management from day one Note day one before you start writing in reply.

See your quote above re Cavan Minors sometimes you are very economical with the facts yourself when you should be will aware of additions and subtractions to the Minor management team.

Breffnisbest (Cavan) - Posts: 412 - 31/08/2017 15:53:36    2041223

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Replying To cavanblueman:  "The whole GAA scene in Cavan needs a total revamp and this should be lead by the County Board, but again, they dont care, they're only interested in making money and pumping it into a County Team that continues to fail year after year. Tell me, what good did the €50k GPS system do this year? absolutely nothing, why do you need to monitor the distance a lad covers, you need to monitor how he's plays football!

Time for the County Board to take the lead, meet with all club reps and decide a way forward - if amalgamations for some clubs are the way forward, then so be it. Whats the point in Clubs (Killeshandra) entering competitions when they cant field teams? No disrespect to Killeshandra, they had a great 2015, but sadly lost some of their players. Would it not make sense for them to amalgamate with Arva and go out an try to win a Senior Championship, wouldnt that be great for that area. Clubs are all but a name now, the die hard club chairmen and club reps are a dying breed now, time for the younger generation to make a stand and take the GAA by the scruff of the neck and make it their own."
The whole GAA scene in Cavan needs a total revamp and this should be lead by the County Board, but again, they dont care, they're only interested in making money and pumping it into a County Team that continues to fail year after year. Tell me, what good did the €50k GPS system do this year.

cavanblueman are you 100% positive that €50K was spent on the GPS. Now I am asking you are you 100% sure???

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 31/08/2017 16:31:51    2041247

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Replying To Breffnisbest:  "
Replying To seanorinn:  "The whole GAA scene in Cavan needs a total revamp and this should be lead by the County Board, but again, they dont care, they're only interested in making money and pumping it into a County Team that continues to fail year after year. Tell me, what good did the €50k GPS system do this year.

cavanblueman are you 100% positive that €50K was spent on the GPS. Now I am asking you are you 100% sure???"
Yes the original management from day one Note day one before you start writing in reply.

See your quote above re Cavan Minors sometimes you are very economical with the facts yourself when you should be will aware of additions and subtractions to the Minor management team."
Yes the original management from day one Note day one before you start writing in reply.

See your quote above re Cavan Minors sometimes you are very economical with the facts yourself when you should be will aware of additions and subtractions to the Minor management team.
Breffnisbest (Cavan) - Posts:328 - 31/08/2017 15:53:36 2041223

Yes of course I was aware of the facts with the minors but the information was facts the original management were there from day one, as for the 50k for equipment the figures grow weekly. Off course it's needed it will show the management those that are just making up numbers plain and simple maybe the new manager will now find out who want to be there and who as I said just want to make up numbers plain and simple.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 31/08/2017 16:38:08    2041251

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Replying To seanorinn:  "
Replying To Breffnisbest:  "[quote=seanorinn:  "The whole GAA scene in Cavan needs a total revamp and this should be lead by the County Board, but again, they dont care, they're only interested in making money and pumping it into a County Team that continues to fail year after year. Tell me, what good did the €50k GPS system do this year.

cavanblueman are you 100% positive that €50K was spent on the GPS. Now I am asking you are you 100% sure???"
Yes the original management from day one Note day one before you start writing in reply.

See your quote above re Cavan Minors sometimes you are very economical with the facts yourself when you should be will aware of additions and subtractions to the Minor management team."
Yes the original management from day one Note day one before you start writing in reply.

See your quote above re Cavan Minors sometimes you are very economical with the facts yourself when you should be will aware of additions and subtractions to the Minor management team.
Breffnisbest (Cavan) - Posts:328 - 31/08/2017 15:53:36 2041223

Yes of course I was aware of the facts with the minors but the information was facts the original management were there from day one, as for the 50k for equipment the figures grow weekly. Off course it's needed it will show the management those that are just making up numbers plain and simple maybe the new manager will now find out who want to be there and who as I said just want to make up numbers plain and simple."]Sean, I'm getting lost in your posts with all the duplication and quoting that is involved in them. So much so that I can't usually make head nor tail of what your trying to say. Could they not be keep a bit more simple?

PatTheDandy (Cavan) - Posts: 282 - 31/08/2017 17:07:15    2041266

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Replying To PatTheDandy:  "
Replying To seanorinn:  "[quote=Breffnisbest:  "[quote=seanorinn:  "The whole GAA scene in Cavan needs a total revamp and this should be lead by the County Board, but again, they dont care, they're only interested in making money and pumping it into a County Team that continues to fail year after year. Tell me, what good did the €50k GPS system do this year.

cavanblueman are you 100% positive that €50K was spent on the GPS. Now I am asking you are you 100% sure???"
Yes the original management from day one Note day one before you start writing in reply.

See your quote above re Cavan Minors sometimes you are very economical with the facts yourself when you should be will aware of additions and subtractions to the Minor management team."
Yes the original management from day one Note day one before you start writing in reply.

See your quote above re Cavan Minors sometimes you are very economical with the facts yourself when you should be will aware of additions and subtractions to the Minor management team.
Breffnisbest (Cavan) - Posts:328 - 31/08/2017 15:53:36 2041223

Yes of course I was aware of the facts with the minors but the information was facts the original management were there from day one, as for the 50k for equipment the figures grow weekly. Off course it's needed it will show the management those that are just making up numbers plain and simple maybe the new manager will now find out who want to be there and who as I said just want to make up numbers plain and simple."]Sean, I'm getting lost in your posts with all the duplication and quoting that is involved in them. So much so that I can't usually make head nor tail of what your trying to say. Could they not be keep a bit more simple?"]Sean, I'm getting lost in your posts with all the duplication and quoting that is involved in them. So much so that I can't usually make head nor tail of what your trying to say. Could they not be keep a bit more simple?
PatTheDandy (Cavan) - Posts:6 - 31/08/2017 17:07:15 2041266
you are right off course.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 31/08/2017 19:00:44    2041300

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getting back on topic, I believe there was a draw after extra time in cootehill's playoff last night . Does that mean that if there is a positive result in the other match that there is no need for any more games to decide what 3 teams go through to the quarters .

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5356 - 03/09/2017 11:25:55    2042095

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Madness that the Ballinagh game will have to be replayed again, far too much waiting around for teams that realistically haven't a hope of winning it anyway, this championship structure is fine but score difference should have been used which might encourage teams to play a bit, Cootehill played with 12 defenders and 2 attackers against the Gaels. There should be a rule in GAA that when teams are level after extra time the referee should throw the ball in once more and the first team to score wins. That would make too much sense though.

IamADragon (Cavan) - Posts: 269 - 03/09/2017 11:42:20    2042099

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Yes ,Ballinagh or Cootehill will have had six games played before, they even reached a quarter final. Real survival of the fittest stuff, the cavan championship.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2216 - 03/09/2017 12:02:10    2042101

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That game should have been played to get a positive result last night - the losers still go through to the next stage of the play-offs anyway so both teams are still alive in the competition. Whats wrong with taking penalties anyway ? - Sorry - that would make too much sense as well.

tenyearplan (Cavan) - Posts: 130 - 03/09/2017 14:04:19    2042147

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Replying To tenyearplan:  "That game should have been played to get a positive result last night - the losers still go through to the next stage of the play-offs anyway so both teams are still alive in the competition. Whats wrong with taking penalties anyway ? - Sorry - that would make too much sense as well."
Yeah make up rules on the spot. Makes sense.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 03/09/2017 14:32:25    2042151

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yes but it would have made more sense to treat the 2 playoffs as a mini-league.
so you would have Cootehill and Ballinagh on 1 point.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5356 - 03/09/2017 14:34:46    2042152

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