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Terry never got us to an Ulster Final , did he even get us to a Semi? What exactly did we win with Terry as senior manager? He got us to Div 1... that's his lot as Senior manager. Couldn't beat Roscommon, couldn't beat Monaghan .. average teams ... average manager.. roll on a bit of attacking football with Mattie.. yes Terry will be back managing clubs.. that's his level.
Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 11/10/2016 20:43:19 1925120 Link 0 |
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Awwnow, I know you are not blessed with much between the lugs but even with that said I was sure you realised the two games against Tyrone this year were semi finals. Your absolute ignorance of all facts is quite incredible.
fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1333 - 11/10/2016 21:28:59 1925157 Link 0 |
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Best of luck to the new manager. Some of you guys may get a reality check in next year or two and then appreciate the good job Terry did with this group of players. RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 616 - 11/10/2016 21:31:41 1925162 Link 0 |
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McGleenan has big shoes to fill, it won't be easy following one of Cavan's greatest ever managers. We can only hope the foresight is there to approach Terry to takeover the minors or U21s in the next year or two and put the future of Cavan football in good hands. JonSmith (Cavan) - Posts: 1451 - 11/10/2016 21:43:36 1925168 Link 1 |
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i listened to the interview on Northern sound yesterday with the new manager and the first thing he did was acknowledge what a good job he did. Its debatable whether we have a right to continually consider ourselves as anglo celt contenders but what TH has done is created a platform for us to have a crack at it. I do agree it was time for a change and that maybe there were opportunities to go further but I would not be scathing of his endeavours for Cavan football. I think Matty will be a good appointment so long as us fans are patient.
toolbox (None) - Posts: 68 - 12/10/2016 10:05:53 1925249 Link 0 |
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Replying To cavanman47: "Would echo that last sentence. If we enjoy any success in the next year or two, Terry is the first man we should be looking to heap praise on. He has brought Cavan football to it's highest level in half a generation. Not sure what his availability is like but don't be surprised to see clubs falling over themselves to snap him up for 2017" i listened to the interview on Northern sound yesterday with the new manager and the first thing he did was acknowledge what a good job he did. Its debatable whether we have a right to continually consider ourselves as anglo celt contenders but what TH has done is created a platform for us to have a crack at it. I do agree it was time for a change and that maybe there were opportunities to go further but I would not be scathing of his endeavours for Cavan football. I think Matty will be a good appointment so long as us fans are patient. toolbox (All) - Posts:59 - 12/10/2016 10:05:53 19 I don't know why all the plaudits but I expect some are merited M. McHugh won an Ulster title in 97 and did a runner I wonder why??? Mr Hyland got Cavan to Division 1 well done to him and the team. This management are now gone ??? Any results that Mattie gets from here on will be his and his alone for it will be he and his backroom team that will train and select the players. If anything goes wrong from here on he will be either lambasted or praised. A new era new ideas and I don't think for a second that Matties will be asking the previous management for any support. He will do his home work for I am sure he will get CD's of as many matches he can and then have an idea who is who within the camp. Should Cavan get relegated in 2017 he will be blamed not Mr Hyland isn't that correct. i hope he brings in some fresh blood sooner rather than later and set's his own stamp on things. I wish him well going forward. First priority is to try and maintain our position in Division1 it will be a huge ask forget about everything else for now. The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 12/10/2016 11:24:23 1925281 Link 0 |
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I don't know why all the plaudits but I expect some are merited aceofspades (Cavan) - Posts: 228 - 12/10/2016 13:03:31 1925338 Link 0 |
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Here here, and it was 4 of those years - Donegal 2012 (won Ulster and All Ireland), Monaghan 2013 and 2015 (by a point each time), Tyrone 2016 after a replay.
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4135 - 12/10/2016 14:06:44 1925368 Link 0 |
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alot a talk Dermot McCabe going is as selector????
sammaguire1 (Cavan) - Posts: 279 - 12/10/2016 16:00:34 1925422 Link 0 |
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delighted with the news & would like to wish McGleenan best wishes in his new post. really hope he selects his backroom team from the listing of strong successful candidates I mentioned last week. imperative that he appoints people that have been winners in management & whom have been attending games at all levels in the championship to advise the new manager. respect for Terry Hyland and the work he put in over his tenure as he has left us in a strong position to hopefully take the next step in comparison to the messes that T Carr and V Andrews left behind.... bond (Longford) - Posts: 157 - 12/10/2016 17:10:40 1925446 Link 1 |
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V Andrews left behind.... bond (Longford) - Posts:21 - 12/10/2016 17:10:40 You know nothing about Val Andrews so until you do show him some respect. The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 12/10/2016 21:08:47 1925529 Link 0 |
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Sean The successful under 21 team that first came into the senior panel under Val said they were gobsmacked at the level of unprofessionalism shown for an intercounty setup. They also said that that all changed when Terry became outright manager. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4135 - 12/10/2016 22:20:46 1925554 Link 0 |
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I think that tonights draw is important for Mattie and the panel. I believe that securing Division 1 status must be a priority for us this year and I simply don't think that we can win an Ulster title this year. We can aim for one in the next 1-2 years though and if we can hold our status then we are in good shape. What I really want to avoid is a preliminery with Donegal or Tyrone with the other waiting in the 1/4 final. I remember McHugh had us in the Ulster final in his first year in '95 and we grew from that experience. If we could somehow get on a winnable side of the draw then the journey would do us no harm. Reformation (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 13/10/2016 08:39:08 1925586 Link 0 |
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I am no fan of Andrews but I think that's a bit unfair. What I have heard and read is that it was more to do with the players on the senior panel that created that bad vibe given they were so full of their own importance. In fairness to Andrews he recognised that and took strong action and I think Cavan people should be very appreciative of the fact that he did take that action. Terry did take it up a big step thereafter.
fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1333 - 13/10/2016 10:29:43 1925622 Link 0 |
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ahhhh I obviously hit a nerve there by mentioning one of your favourites V Andrews as I note you have no problem with T Carr being mentioned. yet you have no problem lambasting individuals named as possible managers. when V Andrews left for the second time in 2012 players were leaving the panel as things were in total disarray. only results went our way we would have ended up in div 4 !!! as Cavanman47 said the U21's shocked at the difference in the 2 camps. Terry took over about a month before the championship in 2012. if that's not a mess then its a strange world !!!
bond (Longford) - Posts: 157 - 13/10/2016 11:02:12 1925633 Link 0 |
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ahhhh I obviously hit a nerve there by mentioning one of your favourites V Andrews as I note you have no problem with T Carr being mentioned. yet you have no problem lambasting individuals named as possible managers. when V Andrews left for the second time in 2012 players were leaving the panel as things were in total disarray. only results went our way we would have ended up in div 4 !!! as Cavanman47 said the U21's shocked at the difference in the 2 camps. Terry took over about a month before the championship in 2012. if that's not a mess then its a strange world !!!"]You know nothing about Val Andrews so until you do show him some respect." Sean The successful under 21 team that first came into the senior panel under Val said they were gobsmacked at the level of unprofessionalism shown for an intercounty setup. They also said that that all changed when Terry became outright manager."]ahhhh I obviously hit a nerve there by mentioning one of your favourites V Andrews as I note you have no problem with T Carr being mentioned. yet you have no problem lambasting individuals named as possible managers. when V Andrews left for the second time in 2012 players were leaving the panel as things were in total disarray. only results went our way we would have ended up in div 4 !!! as Cavanman47 said the U21's shocked at the difference in the 2 camps. Terry took over about a month before the championship in 2012. if that's not a mess then its a strange world !!! bond (Longford) - Posts:22 - 13/10/2016 11:02:12 19 Talk is so cheap isn't it. you believe a carrier Believe nothing of what you hear Half of what you see Until you know it to be true Val Andrews is a decent honest person and you are happy to belittle him here forgetting who he had around him. It's a shame. I know what he did what he had to put up with and don't you for a second think it was all rosy in the garden, check the other side of the coin before you write about him again or better again stop writing about what you know nothing about. The sad thing now is if the new manager fails to keep Cavan in division 1 he will be lambasted like Val and others as a failure yet he has achieved as had Val Andrews. The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 13/10/2016 12:01:19 1925666 Link 0 |
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Sean, your post is directed at others moreso than at me (I think) but I don't doubt that Val is a decent and honest man. I don't know him personally so of course I wouldn't be in a position to say otherwise. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4135 - 13/10/2016 14:06:56 1925727 Link 0 |
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Bring TC back ... because he makes VA look good!! Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 13/10/2016 15:12:34 1925764 Link 0 |
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Forget about it people just seem to be happy to brush under the carpet that Mr Hyland has been around a very long time. If anyone can go back when I posted that Cavan needed a stand alone manager I was laughed at but I was proved right. I wrote for two weeks on the Celt and the Cavan Post. Phil Smith was chairman less we forget. ?? The rest is now history. I will say this no one seems to say it the main cog in the wheel was Joe McCarty or is it just Joe Carty from Kingscourt either way you know who I am talking about. He was the man some football tactical brain.
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 13/10/2016 20:09:32 1925887 Link 0 |
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Any word on a back room team yet?, and how is Joe McCarthy doing?
blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 743 - 14/10/2016 13:09:29 1926218 Link 0 |