I don't believe that there are many "knockers" on here at all.
I like the various opinions of posters even if i disagree with them.
I actually thought we needed a new and better goalkeeper as that position was a worry due to poor kick-outs and the occasional poor mistakes at vital times. I also didn't like the total blanket defence and i wanted more big men introduced to give us strength and other options. We have them now and it's working.

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 29/03/2016 12:43:10    1838756

Steady Eddie. Maybe a little harsh regarding Monaghan. I wouldn't exactly say we crumbled. Monaghan are a different proposition to Galway and you have to give the Farney men some credit in that match. Stronger panel won the game. I also think we're stronger than last year.
I'd say you're disappointed the game is in Breffni. Some fine Connemara ladies knocking around Salthill- although I'm sure you've already been!!

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 29/03/2016 12:55:06    1838767

Question maybe for Sean. Are Aron Watson, Conor Madden, Gerry Smith, Joe Dillon and Tom Hayes still involved with the panel. Also is Paul O'Connor fully fit? Same question regarding Fergal Flanagan? We certainly seem to have a very strong panel of players at the moment and some real talent in our underage ranks as well.

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts:316 - 29/03/2016 11:49:26 1838717

Sorry I am not at liberty to say if they are or are not, I am sure you understand..


Question for others how can Cavan play Tyrone in the League final ???

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 29/03/2016 12:55:57    1838768

Nothing wrong with various opinions Slasher but it was the complete lack of credit for anything the management have achieved I'd have a problem with and also the lack of acknowledgement of the constraints they were under personnel wise. The total blanket is a myth. This management has always shown a willingness to attack. You don't win a haul of Ulster titles, Leinster and All Ireland titles without an attacking philosophy. Trying to emulate that on a higher playing field needs patience to develop and bring young (and older) players through. Hopefully we are starting to turn a corner and seeing some of the fruits of our labour. Maybe Terry Hyland isn't the complete idiot a lot of posters on here would have you believe.

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 29/03/2016 13:11:26    1838784

lets not get carried away with last week, we beat a poor Laois side who didnt seem organised at all. Galway will be a different story next week. I feel that sometimes when we get ahead we tend to sit back and the half forward line gets very deep which isnt what we need . Promotion would be nice but i think we should really put all our efforts into winning an ulster title as it would be a huge boost for football in the county at all levels.

Cavanbyrd (Cavan) - Posts: 61 - 29/03/2016 13:45:03    1838804

Good to see Hardtimes coming out of the woodwork, As I said in previous posts, I am thoroughly delighted that Hyland has finally taken the shackles off and allowed this team to start playing football. As Mr O Rinn correctly stated, it has all the hallmarks of McHale written all over it. Cast your minds back to an interview that McHale did with Today FM, on the Wednesday before the Monaghan match, McHale correctly stated that Hyland was too defensively minded. We had Monaghan on the ropes with 20 minutes left of the match, when instructions came from the side-line to revert to a defensive style and this was the beating of us, nothing else. In fact, Hyland has held Cavan Football back for the last 5 years playing a defensively minded game, however, credit where credit is due, he's realised his mistakes and its actually delightful to see Cavan playing an attacking brand of football. You can actually see that the players are actually enjoying it.

deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 29/03/2016 14:23:39    1838824

lets not get carried away with last week, we beat a poor Laois side who didnt seem organised at all. Galway will be a different story next week. I feel that sometimes when we get ahead we tend to sit back and the half forward line gets very deep which isnt what we need . Promotion would be nice but i think we should really put all our efforts into winning an ulster title as it would be a huge boost for football in the county at all levels.

Cavanbyrd (Cavan) - Posts:53 - 29/03/2016 13:45:03 1838804

With promotion you get to play at a higher level and a stronger level so let's take things as they come. For me promotion would be brilliant worry about Ulster after the league it's how it goes.
Monaghan have a big task next week to stay in division 1 and as I am a neutral and don't have any animosity towards them I hope they stay in Division 1 some nice players and a nice manager as well in Malachy O'Rourke nice back room staff as well.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 29/03/2016 14:25:42    1838827

I don't think the total blanket was a myth at all Hardtimes.
Many a time i saw only 1 or 2 men ahead of the ball and then we couldn't penetrate any defence who put men across the 40 i.e. the C/ship game against Armagh a few years ago (after the row) is a case in point. I saw it happen a good many times.I think putting the 3 big men up front gives us great options.

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 29/03/2016 14:31:13    1838833

Dean instead of sitting at home updating that awful Facebook page of yours you should go out and watch Cavan play. We've been playing attacking fast moving football for well over a year now. Just because that football is now yielding results the more casual supporters think we've only just started!!
Slasher why do you think it's only just started? How did we rack up big scores in league and championship last year playing a supposed blanket defence?

Also worth nothing about the sitting back issue, Terry said yesterday after the game that the team did sit back a bit at times in the second half, he said that wasn't the intention nor what they were sent out to do, the players themselves retreated into a shell.
This is something that happens in all field sports, it's a very common attitude for a team protecting a lead. It doesn't mean management have sent out the message to shut up shop.

JonSmith (Cavan) - Posts: 1451 - 29/03/2016 14:59:15    1838842

I understand Sean. No worries. Also if we beat Galway we play Tyrone in Division 2 final.
No woodwork where I reside Dean- I post on here win, lose or draw. Hyland held us back alright- from nose diving to Division 4.
Cavan Slasher- we've played plenty of times with 3 men up front but the ball never stuck. It's a combination of a lot of things- quality of delivery and ball winning ability inside. McKiernan being freed from midfield duty is a big plus with regards "breaking the line". A lot of quality coming into half back line and forward line which increases drive and quality of delivery. Building a squad takes time. Could you really say that 2 years ago we could contemplate picking a starting 15 without Keating, M.Dunne, F.Flanagan, McDermott or Mackey for example. There's more names you could add in there. To think our attacking now is just based on a change of instruction from the line is very simplistic in the extreme.

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 29/03/2016 15:10:00    1838848

If there's mindless slagging to be had could you all at least try to be original?

Try to think of new terms for "out of the woodwork", "the (anti or pro)-Hyland brigade", "let the shackles off" etc.

Skelling (USA) - Posts: 288 - 29/03/2016 15:42:05    1838885

Sunday will be my first time to Breffni Park and looking forward to it! Where would be a handy spot to park travelling from Dublin?

Expecting a good game, our lads have been inconsistent to date and are rightly underdogs for this one. In saying that I think it could go either way. Big prize at stake and may the best team win!

Rocky.Road (Galway) - Posts: 363 - 29/03/2016 15:50:01    1838890

Jonsmith - I've been attending Cavan games since the early 80s, and still attend them, have attended most games this year, except one McKenna Cup game...how many have you seen? I've probably seen a few more than Skelling in the USA who has attended 0, but still feels qualified to make comments.
I beg to differ, and I'm sure that most genuine fans will agree, we have not been playing attacking football for the last year. There was some attacking football, but not a lot, but I will say that when we did attack, we did it very well. The nine point lead against Tyrone at half time in last years McKenna Cup Final stands out, as did the 5 point lead against Monaghan in the Championship and the 5 point lead against Meath in the league, but in all cases, we slid back into that defensive shell and conceded good leads.
Again Jonsmith, I notice how you look to absolve management of any fault, like you did with the U21 management and lay blame on the players! well done Jon.
Anyone arguing that we didn't play a blanket defence - you might want to compare our scoring averages and player stats.

deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 29/03/2016 17:01:17    1838939

Liam McHale was brought in last year as a forward coach, so the plan was obviously to focus on attack.

Peter Donnelly set a good foundation with the defence prior to that.

They are beginning to click at both ends now. Not conceding many goals and scoring a few at the other end.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2216 - 29/03/2016 17:06:24    1838944

Agree with some posts cavan look a much more fluent team this year and look dangerous going forward !!! I do have my concerns in defence how easy meath in the first half and Laois in the second half split us open !!!
I do not understand why they persist in playing Michael argue week in week out offers nothing to the team ...

jackser (Meath) - Posts: 37 - 29/03/2016 17:49:55    1838982

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts:319 - 29/03/2016 15:10:00 1838848

Are the finals in Croke Park I did not realise that. o beating Galway next Sunday this will happen good news for all.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 29/03/2016 17:50:16    1838983

I would be a bit worried about this game on Sunday...Galway are no mugs and are streets ahead of a Laois team that caused us plenty of problems... We played well in the first half but seemed to drift back into our slow over passing mode in the second half which allowed Laois funnel players back when a quick ball was called for... A couple of concerns for me would be...1 Our record in last round must win games has been pretty poor over the years so hopefully we will handle the pressure and no 2... This will be our first game on our mini revival that we are lining out without Seani Johnstone who will be a huge loss...maybe Paul O Connor or Jack will come in and do the business.. Let's hope for a nice day and a huge crowd to push the lads over the line so we can get a crack at the Dubs next season..!!!'

Sean.66 (Cavan) - Posts: 293 - 29/03/2016 17:52:36    1838986

Rocky road once you go through roundabout on n3 going into Cavan there are lots of places to abandon the car. If in time could even park in ground but takes a while to get out. Anywhere near Meadow View gives you a short walk. Couple retail parks you can park too. Hope you enjoy the game but not the result!!!!

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 29/03/2016 18:09:11    1838993

Is SJ injury that bad I would not be a bit surprised if Mr Hyland starts the same 15 before kick off last Sunday.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 29/03/2016 18:20:34    1838998

Cavan Crystal in at the back plenty room there but if you are dragging your feet you will not get any space in the ground but if early maybe. I would say park at the crystal short walk to the park and you will get away far quicker afterwards.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 29/03/2016 18:34:42    1839006