Lads it's time for deanmartin to go. He has been boring us with his sterile views for a few years now. We have given him enough chances. How much more time does he need. I feel there is a good bunch of posters for him to work with here, probably the best that has been around for a while but dean is so stubborn, he won't change his mindset. He thinks by saying the same thing over and over again he will get results but it's just not happening. Dean has a few backers and a few yes-men who tell him he's great. This keeps him going and feeds his delusion. He thinks that one day he will achieve his aim but he wont. It's time for him to go

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5356 - 09/02/2016 19:56:37    1824189

S Golderick . I've read some of your posts on the main forum and they ridiculous . Do you remember the post about scoring 2points for hitting the crossbar? And you have the neck to criticise a poster because he's not a Terry yes man? Grow up its a forum . Some of your views I don't know how you get them past the mods

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 09/02/2016 21:16:23    1824227

He's right bout deanmartin,if it is who we think it is I know for a fact he doesn't even go to his local club games never mind Cavan games..there's a good chance he's never even seen half of that Cavan team play.

CR7 (Cavan) - Posts: 117 - 10/02/2016 10:56:09    1824305

Excellent article by Eugene McGee in the Independent the other day about our game against Derry.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/eugene-mcgee-if-you-insist-on-playing-allout-defence-at-least-do-it-right-34431926.html

A rather scathing indictment on Cavan's tactics (or lack of). I wasn't at the game myself, but for those of you on this forum that were, you failed to mention any of what he said lads? Then again I suppose he has no agenda and doesn't have to sugarcoat anything. He also called the attendance "pathetic". Many of us correctly predicted that attendances would plummet this year.

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1022 - 10/02/2016 14:15:37    1824388

I did say we failed to push up with wind till 22nd minute. Also said some players sloppy in possession so don't know what's your agenda. He said it was a surprisingly open game. Not the all out defensive game that some people said on this forum who ironically weren't at the game. The reason for attendance would be a combination of factors one being the bitter cold.

As for Deanmartin if he is who we all suspect Mickey Brennan wasn't long calling him out on we are cavan.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 10/02/2016 14:47:31    1824405

Well McHugh and I agreed on one thing and that was Cavan had enough chances to punch the ball between the post, as for the crowed it was that fecking cold I was surprised there was anyone there what a miserable evening.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 10/02/2016 15:13:02    1824417

The main points regarding Cavan from the McGee piece as I see it are as follows
• Both Cavan and Derry played quite a lot of constructive, open football.
• Of course there were massed defence tactics from both teams, but this did not dominate the game and the overall standard of play was pleasantly good
• This was a game that Cavan lost themselves for a variety of reasons.
• I was disappointed with the level of intensity they showed.
• Some of their players were almost lackadaisical in their approach
• A Cavan defender won the ball about 40 yards out from his goals and proceeded to go on a solo run for about 70 yards down the centre of the field.While that was going on the Derry reinforcements had arrived to place themselves in the backline so when the Cavan player got down that far his colleagues were outnumbered.A poor pass was given under pressure, a Derry defender literally took the ball out of the Cavan man's hands and in a flash the ball had been transferred about 100 yards to the top right-hand corner where a Derry forward had plenty of time to hit a point - and remember Cavan lost this game by just one point.
• put long high balls into the Cavan fullback line, which had always looked suspect.
• In fairness to Cavan they did improve their earlier non-existent tackling in the second half and even got stuck in physically on occasion and they were a bit unfortunate not to at least get a draw.
• They failed because of messing around
• Cavan had several chances to fist a point to draw but messed them all up

This is full of contradictions, so we played open constructive football with a mass/all out defence? we lacked intensity or but got stuck in? we lost because because of one play where Derry scored or maybe we lost because we were incapable of fisting a point? we were unfortunate not to get a draw but sure weren't Derry deserving winners?

He also says
A Cavan defender won the ball about 40 yards out from his goals and proceeded to go on a solo run for about 70 yards down the centre of the field.

then makes this statement
If you are going to play all-out defence, at least learn how to do it right.

Obviously if we were playing all out defence no one told this Cavan defender. (fecking management again)

In fairness to Magee although he won an All Ireland with Offaly he (like a lot of others)didn't do a whole pile with Cavan in his four years in charge.

aceofspades (Cavan) - Posts: 228 - 10/02/2016 15:42:47    1824433

Ned's comments reflect the absolutely horrendous attitude among some Cavan supporters. Doesn't bother going to the game, but is online straight away after the final whistle to slate management. Hasn't seen any scores or incidents in the game. Hasn't seen anything the team did right or wrong. No appreciation for the manner of defeat. And then questions the attendance! You couldn't make it up.

Mickey's comment that night was fantastic alright dora.

JonSmith (Cavan) - Posts: 1451 - 10/02/2016 15:56:29    1824445

McGee couldn't even get the scores right. A terrible article from start to finish. Right at home in the Indo.

JonSmith (Cavan) - Posts: 1451 - 10/02/2016 15:59:26    1824446

McGee couldn't even get the scores right. A terrible article from start to finish. Right at home in the Indo.

JonSmith (Cavan) - Posts:1297 - 10/02/2016 15:59:26 1824446

Yes saw that he was a point short at half time. He was at the match however up in the press box I think he was with Owen McConnell.

I will say this again I saw a huge improvement Saturday enough for me to say we will be fine we will get enough points and don't be at all surprised if we don't end up with ten but 6 will suffice.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 10/02/2016 17:30:20    1824484

Doratheexplorer - what did Mickey Brennan say on wearecavan?

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1333 - 10/02/2016 18:22:37    1824509

Person in question tweets a lot during Cavan games. Mickey said for a person supposedly so passionate about Cavan football he doesn't go to many games.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 10/02/2016 19:13:09    1824532

Dora - your point about the weather and the poor attendance - it wasn't cold in the middle of last Summer in the Championship, from recollection, our neighbours Monaghan outnumbered us 2 to 1, the same for the Roscommon game.

As for Mr Magee, he is well respected within the GAA cirlces, and knows what he's talking about, but its not a coincidence that most of the top GAA pundits have been very scathing of Cavan over the last few years, but then again, what do they know, surely the experience and knowledge of Jonsmith, Dora, Fred, Cavan97 & Mr O Rinn should be taken more seriously.

Just for the record, I only missed one Cavan game this year, 1 last year and I attended a lot of club games last year at all levels.

deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 11/02/2016 09:31:03    1824591

S Golderick . I've read some of your posts on the main forum and they ridiculous . Do you remember the post about scoring 2points for hitting the crossbar? And you have the neck to criticise a poster because he's not a Terry yes man? Grow up its a forum . Some of your views I don't know how you get them past the mods

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts:324 - 09/02/2016 21:16:23 182

you are taking this very personally. Awwwwnow. i wonder why ?

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5356 - 11/02/2016 09:38:04    1824592

Golderick you talking about another posters time to go. What gives you that right on a forum just because you don't agree with what they say about management . Should we all agree with you and Fredflint and foolsgold? Should we?

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 11/02/2016 10:37:58    1824610

Nobody has taken Mcgee serious in about ten years. A busted flush. As for attendances Breffni hasn't being full in years for a Cavan game long before Terry. I'm not a Terry fan by the way. Think it has gone stale but I am a Cavan supporter.

Funny Mickey Harte was praising us a couple of weeks ago. I'd take him more serious.

You've a problem with the style of football. I don't. It's modern football.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 11/02/2016 10:50:44    1824614

Golderick you talking about another posters time to go. What gives you that right on a forum just because you don't agree with what they say about management . Should we all agree with you and Fredflint and foolsgold? Should we?

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts:325 - 11/02/2016 10:37:58 1

It was a satirical, humourous comment, and btw I have more right to post on here than some of the trolls you see. you protest too much.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5356 - 11/02/2016 11:01:48    1824618

Some of the boys posting here non stop and never going to a game !! Makes me smile, but I suspected so.
Well I was at both the Tyrone and Derry games so know a little about what happened in both games.
Must say I was bitterly dissapointed after Saturday night. A game we should have won by a good few points at least. How somebody dident call it on the pitch or from the line "lads we are a point down take the point and maybe we get a chance for the winner" Baffling.
That said it is encouraging that we are within a point or two of the strong teams in Ulster. Before the league started I said we would surprise a few of the big boys. But we had to believe in ourselves.
I would have differed from Terry in that I wouldent have started both Keating or Givney. They were away all last year so ease them back in. Both showed a lot of rustiness and in some cases a bit of naivity and lack of cohesion. Seanie on the other hand showed lots of composure and in fact could have got more game time.
I also think the younger lads played really well in both games yet Moynagh in particular lacked cpmposure and ran with the ball when he should have stayed back.
A big supporter of Terry and will always support the Manager in charge (unlike some boyos) I still have a few issues with the game plan.
Cannot understand Martin Reilly in particular running from the back line and slowing everything down. Several times he ran into traffic. Mackey was better but still would push him up.
Argue definately made a difference when called in against Derry so is worth a shot. Gearoid and Corr worked hard throughout.
Rory and Jason are missed at the back and Killian Cllark would give us options around the middle.
Have to say it is good to see the optimism of somebody like SeanORiann. I would be more cautious and the Meath game now is a must win game.
So I hope we can start converting a bigger percentage of our chances. Some of the wides were criminal and also dropping the ball into the keepers hand.

BreffniDub (None) - Posts: 377 - 11/02/2016 11:35:55    1824638

Nobody has taken Mcgee serious in about ten years. A busted flush. As for attendances Breffni hasn't being full in years for a Cavan game long before Terry. I'm not a Terry fan by the way. Think it has gone stale but I am a Cavan supporter.

Nobody is talking about the ground being full. But it is unequivocally clear that attendances are falling game by game. It wasn't cold when we played in the championship last year twice on home soil. Outnumbered by the travelling supporters on both occasions. Maybe it was the weather. Maybe there was something good on the TV. Or maybe the Cavan people are fed up with what is on display in Breffni Park.


doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts:522 - 11/02/2016 10:50:44 1824614

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1022 - 11/02/2016 11:37:03    1824639

Worth noting we outnumbered Laois supporters in Portlaoise last year and the same in Galway (until hurling supporter started coming in late on)

Ned you weren't at the game. How can you comment on attendance? You and many others are fairweather supporters. And that's fine every county has them. But that's not the managements fault. You can be guaranteed if we got to an Ulster Semi Final or Final this year Cavan people would flock to the game. We brought massive crowds to U21 games over the last few years because we were winning. Nobody cared that the football was defensive, they were there to see us win.

JonSmith (Cavan) - Posts: 1451 - 11/02/2016 12:47:49    1824669