Was the Ref totally bias last night, or is the commentator a complete homer ?

ulster40 (USA) - Posts: 79 - 07/02/2016 20:00:35    1823203

Skelling...we struggled against London to get toba Q/Final, and when we got there, Kerry toyed with us without having to hit 2nd gear. I'm not sure when you last attended any club games but forwards are in abundance in Cavan but as Goonie correctly pointed out, they are being swallowed up by this defensive system.

deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 07/02/2016 20:59:44    1823240

Was the Ref totally bias last night, or is the commentator a complete homer ?

ulster40 (USA) - Posts:72 - 07/02/2016 20:00:35 1823203

To be fair he gave it as he saw it except for the last 4 minuets. Everyone I think were confused as to how he could not award a 13 meter free at least to Cavan but I was looking from the half way line like most and the referee was on the spot. My opinion for what it's worth was no he was not bias at all. Look the clock was ticking down we were within punching distance of putting the ball between the posts to make it 1-12 each, this sadly is where Cavan left it behind them that last cynical touch was missing and it would seem all that was on the players minds was get a goal, this was a wrong call but we must learn from these elementary errors and learn how to close the game down. Should Cavan have won yes they should but some bad decisions by player's gave Derry the option to close them down these are the simple facts.

I saw enough last nigh to be confident that Cavan will get enough points on the table to secure division 2 status there are still 10 points for the taking.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 07/02/2016 21:11:59    1823256

Ah Deano, you know Im not attending Cavan Senior games this year. So therefore I really can comment on a match I have not seen. I attended Pearse park yesterday and could only comment on the gutsy way Longford came back from 5 down to win. I am hurt Cavan lost. Is Terry the right man for the job? of course. For one reason, The discipline and approach to training compared to 6 or 7 years ago. The social drinking is gone. Now we can support our county knowing them lads are giving their all for our county, not what could have beens only starting to play 7 points down in a match with pride to play for in the second half, way too many of them games in the past. This is his last year so like him or like him not he's here until the end of the championship. I've always had issues with selection but I and others have had with any manager so that's nothing new. But Deano, you shouted long and hard for your superstar to be back and now he is back are you not heading in to cheer him on? God knows you did enough campaigning for him

cavan97 (Cavan) - Posts: 369 - 08/02/2016 09:09:29    1823308

I was at both games so far this year and, while disappointed with the outcome of both, my honest opinion is that we are not far off the mark, but we don't know how to close out games.
We were in both games until the last few minutes and blew them.
Looking back to the championship last year, it was the same in the Monaghan game.
Is it fear, lack of confidence, lack of belief ?
As Sean said, there is still time.

FrDougalMaguire (Cavan) - Posts: 152 - 08/02/2016 09:54:24    1823327

We will be fine FrDougalMaguire they have the fire power just that final tweak and they will be hard beat. Just thinking back to the U21 Hastings cup saying they did not want to win it but as I stated winning creates confidence self belief and the win attitude so I hope people understand winning is important and increases moral. I am saying this with confidence we will be fine and for those critics out there it's fecking hard going for any lad on these pitches wet mucky blustery raining not easy and we are a kick away from winning matches thats a very positive change from 2015 isn't it not that we were that far off then either.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 08/02/2016 10:59:51    1823361

The inability to kick the ball over the bar form close enough range is killing us..
How many times did we present the Derry goalkeeper with little gifts on Saturday night?
How many handpasses went to the opposition?
We have great heart and determination but we are falling down on the very basics of the game.

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 08/02/2016 11:35:08    1823386

We don't know how to play the blanket properly. That's the main problem. Just watch the first 10 minutes of 2012 all Ireland and you will see how the blanket should be played. Quick ball out of defence accurately where the forwards wins his ball. That's the secret . Lateral handpasses out of defence is not the way. Watch lacys ball to Murphy in the first 5 minutes against mayo and you see what I mean . Also you need a settled team where Everyman knows what he suppose to be doing

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 08/02/2016 12:03:40    1823412

No offence Sean but you're thinking is a bit irrational. "We'll be fine and everything will be ok" seems to be your thinking. The reality is, nobody is going to hand us two points. You seem to think we'll miraculously pick them up somewhere, well, to borrow a phrase from your good self "LET ME TELL YOU", the Armaghs and Meaths of this world will give us nothing easy. There isn't one game remaining where we'd be confident of getting a win. Fermanagh perhaps, but they could easily surprise us as they have better forwards and arguably a better midfield. After years of underage promise we find ourselves fighting to retain second tier status and most people on this board are delighted with that. Strange mindset for apparent "fans".

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1022 - 08/02/2016 12:16:55    1823425

No offence Sean but you're thinking is a bit irrational. "We'll be fine and everything will be ok" seems to be your thinking. The reality is, nobody is going to hand us two points. You seem to think we'll miraculously pick them up somewhere, well, to borrow a phrase from your good self "LET ME TELL YOU", the Armaghs and Meaths of this world will give us nothing easy. There isn't one game remaining where we'd be confident of getting a win. Fermanagh perhaps, but they could easily surprise us as they have better forwards and arguably a better midfield. After years of underage promise we find ourselves fighting to retain second tier status and most people on this board are delighted with that. Strange mindset for apparent "fans".

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts:839 - 08/02/2016 12:16:55 1823425

From what I saw Saturday evening I have no doubt Cavan will be very safe. Ten points should they win their remaining matches I believe will get them promotion, but right now priority is safety don't you think.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 08/02/2016 12:50:13    1823445

Who will we beat??? And more importantly HOW will we beat them?

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 08/02/2016 12:58:36    1823453

Who will we beat??? And more importantly HOW will we beat them?

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts:310 - 08/02/2016 12:58:36 1


We will win by scoring more than the opposition !! We are well capable of winning all the games left to play. We have played the best two teams in the the group and could have taken something from both games. I think six points will be enough to stay up and I believe Cavan will get the points required.

evano11 (Cavan) - Posts: 257 - 08/02/2016 13:14:10    1823460

Fermanagh - tight but we usually come out on top
Meath - softest they have been in years. Looking forward to a good night in Navan
Armagh - a spent force with a spoofer in charge

and maybe Laois

6 points total for the league.

MadgeKing (Cavan) - Posts: 489 - 08/02/2016 13:14:33    1823461

I think that we will also finish on 6 but I would think we will take Laois but not so sure about Fermanagh.

I cant help but feel frustrated by the near misses in the opening 2 games. We are the nearly men again and this needs to change. A lot of the younger players are maturing now and they need to step up and take more responsibility. I thought McKiernan did just that on Saturday night but we need more leaders stepping up. Killian Clarke is also showing but we need more. We are a top class forward behind Monaghan but look at them now. We need to step it up. The bench was slow in making the necessary adjustments again on Saturday in my opinion...

Reformation (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 08/02/2016 13:52:11    1823484

From what I saw Saturday evening I have no doubt Cavan will be very safe. Ten points should they win their remaining matches I believe will get them promotion, but right now priority is safety don't you think.

seanorinn (Cavan) - Posts:2801 - 08/02/2016 12:50:13 1823445

Promotion is unattainable. It's beyond us now even though that was the aim before the league from a players perspective, a few of them mentioned it. Wed have to win all our remaining games and that's highly unlikely. Surviving this division is absolutely crucial to the future of Cavan football as I think it's pivotal to attracting a new manager later this year.

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1022 - 08/02/2016 13:59:53    1823492

Rewind 12 months...have a look at the forums from last year...dejavu..same conversations about the same system, the same errors, the same problems...nothing's changed in 12 months and that's all down to the manager. If people are happy with mediocrity and Cavan being an average football team, then it's a sad state of affairs for a County steeped in football tradition. These says people seem to think that losing narrowly to Tyrone and Derry should be applauded, why not raise the bar and go and beat them. The system is not working, it hasn't worked for over 3 years, take off the shackles and let them play football.

deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 08/02/2016 20:03:28    1823691

Posters are right when they say we have played the best two teams in the groupe and came very close on both occasions but the down side is that we got both at the right time and did not take advantage... I doubt if we played both at the end of the campaign that we would have any chance if both were in the promotion hunt.. We should gather enough points to stay up but at the end of the day our style of play is laughable.. Look at Roscommon yesterday and the way they took the game to Kerry and kicked some wonderful scores... We have every bit as good and committed bunch of players as Roscommon but are totally hamstrung by negative management.. People say we don't have the forwards but that is rubbish.. No forward in the country would have a hope with the way Cavan play and it beggars belief how any coach or manager thinks there is any future with these tactics.. On another note it is unfair to attack Deanmartins posts as he is intitled to his opinion of which most are valid... We all want to see Cavan do well but anyone who thinks the current setup with our proud County senior team is working and making progress are way of the mark... Cavan are in danger of wasting a great bunch of players with this sterile play and at the end of the day the CB must take full blame...

Sean66 (Cavan) - Posts: 440 - 08/02/2016 20:21:40    1823704

Cavan are in danger of wasting a great bunch of players with this sterile play and at the end of the day the CB must take full blame...

Sean66 (Cavan) - Posts:432 - 08/02/2016 20:21:40 1823704

Spot on the money. My biggest fear is that we are in the process of wasting a massive opportunity with a talented bunch of players the likes of which we havent had in decades. People are forgetting, a multitude of these players played underage football when Terry was the manager, they've never known inter-county football without him. Listening to the same voice year after year, isn't it time we changed things up a bit?

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1022 - 08/02/2016 21:11:14    1823743

There a big difference from managing a successful u21 side to stepping up to manage at Senior inter county level with inexperienced management . Hyland hasn't got it . He would be a great number 2 to a manager who knew what he was at and a manager who can switch things. That's his major problem. He too slow to see the problem. Every one of his interviews this past 3 years sound the same . But when he has Fitzpatrick and Donohue and Brennan telling him he's the greatest thing since sliced bread what chance have we got

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 08/02/2016 21:54:05    1823758

Lads its like a broken record all this Hyland has to go stuff. We all know its not right but he is there for the year. end of. I have been reading the same posts for 2 years now. Its copy and paste.

Lets talk about Cavan football, lets talk about players, new prospects, etc.

I know a few will bite back saying there is no Cavan with him there but he is there and will be for the rest of the year. We are bankrupt also. So forget about new management for now!

Reformation (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 09/02/2016 17:43:21    1824137