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That's was a real good performance from Templeport . The Donegal champions ran away with their league dropping only 3 points out of a possible 32. So Templeports away win was good value. Best of luck to them in the next round

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 02/11/2015 10:56:06    1803662

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Templeport were full value for their win yesterday. It looked like Naomh Ultan were going to make a game of it when they pulled a goal back near halftime but Templeport went right back up the field and got another goal of their own to rock us back on our heals.
All the best for the rest of the campaign.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7075 - 02/11/2015 13:10:49    1803719

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re your query about the under 14 championshp being played to november can only say the thinking behind this seems to be to have the gaelic in direct confrontation with the local soccer leagues so once again the kids have to make a choice
also was in breffni yesterday to cheer on our 2 county reps and while ballyhaise gave a good account of themselves in a very good contest and just falling short
the Kingscourt performance was shocking, Men against boys. on this and previous showings our so called Senior teams would in most other counties be regarded as maybe decent Intermediate sides and no better. WE all play a slow paced game and when we come out of our county are destroyed by faster,clinical & way more competitive sides have been looking at this a good few years now and it ain't getting better, time for change clubs !!

spiritof97 (Cavan) - Posts: 36 - 02/11/2015 17:14:25    1803792

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Monaghan club sides regularly play Cavan club sides in challenge matches. The consensus is that you have too many senior sides which dilutes the quality of the senior championship. Monaghan have ten sides and the top six or seven are excellent and probably would win the Cavan championship. Your doing well to have such a good county side with the poor quality of club sides you have.

room2 (Monaghan) - Posts: 93 - 02/11/2015 18:12:43    1803810

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Was at the Kingscourt match yesterday.

- Don't for one minute believe that before the match Kingscourt actually thought they might win so mentally I don't think they were up to it.

- As commented above their slow style of play just wasn't good enough. I would have thought this is a reflection on the trainer. Surely its the trainers job to make sure the guys have good ball skills, know where their team-mates are and play like they actually know each other.
- they were no where near as fit as Kilcoo and I think that's the responsibility of the individuals to take charge of their own fitness.

Dignifed (Cavan) - Posts: 1 - 02/11/2015 21:48:57    1803886

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Was Kingscourts biggest problem that they played a lot of football this year and had a panel with a lot of players in their 30s???

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 04/11/2015 21:48:30    1804537

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I was at the game as a neutral and actually felt sorry for Kingscourt.
They were the proverbial lambs to the slaughter.
I thought the statement Niall lynch had on hoganstand hung his players out to dry.
He has to take some of the blame himself.
Unfortunately Cavan clubs are only trained to Cavan standards and the holy grail is the county championship, they should be more ambitious than that.
Do you think that clubs can go from cavan level to ulster level in the 3 weeks(2 if you take the week off for celebrating) between the county final and the Ulsters? I think not. Clubs need to be trained at a higher level from the begining of the season. That is up to the trainer.
Kilcoo were a very highly conditioned team at their absolute peak of fitness. KIngscourt didnt stand a chance. They werent prepared for that onslaught either physically or mentally.
Ambitions need to change in cavan and trainers need to take it up a level or our bad record will never improve.

hammy8 (Cavan) - Posts: 13 - 05/11/2015 14:00:49    1804661

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Good post

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The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 05/11/2015 14:28:44    1804678

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Looking at the Kerry model East Kerry play as a senior side but have 13! clubs feeding into them. They also play an East Kerry Championship where all the clubs get the chance to win it also and it is played Nov/Dec with the addition of a Junior/ Inter champ as well for players who don't make the Divisional side.The better, or more talented and conditioned and willing players, then get to play in a serious Senior Championship which has them ready for the call from the county if it comes. We are at least a generation behind the way we are going her in Cavan.

breffni666 (Cavan) - Posts: 294 - 08/11/2015 20:46:28    1805444

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Best of luck to Templeport on Sunday. Faughanvale will be very tough opposition. It would be great if Templeport could make an Ulster final and maybe even go one step further than Swanlinbar a few years ago and win the title on the field of play.

JonSmith (Cavan) - Posts: 1451 - 12/11/2015 17:28:45    1806869

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Templeport beaten 2-11 to 1-09

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1022 - 15/11/2015 13:13:02    1807370

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Hard luck to Templeport... Time for a serious overhaul of club football in Cavan as our record in Ulster has reached the stage of embarresment...

Sean66 (Cavan) - Posts: 440 - 15/11/2015 14:28:31    1807391

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Kilcoo who hammered Kingscourt lost 0-12 to 0-08 to Crossmaglenn Rangers.

eduardo66 (Cavan) - Posts: 64 - 15/11/2015 14:53:55    1807397

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Doohamlet well beaten, which probaly showed Ballyhaise were a fair bit off a Ulster title.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2216 - 15/11/2015 15:19:02    1807402

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the teams that easily got by the cavan teams a fortnight ago were all brushed aside even easier today. Something needs to happen quick.. One of the big problems with Cavan football is if Templeport played kingscourt in the morning there would not be much in the result. This shouldn't be.

asdfg (Cavan) - Posts: 290 - 15/11/2015 15:28:50    1807407

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Maybe our club teams should be pulled out of Ulster competitions until we get more competitive....a bit like the County Board did with the Hurling team..!!!!!!

Sean66 (Cavan) - Posts: 440 - 15/11/2015 15:58:33    1807413

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the teams that easily got by the cavan teams a fortnight ago were all brushed aside even easier today. Something needs to happen quick.. One of the big problems with Cavan football is if Templeport played kingscourt in the morning there would not be much in the result. This shouldn't be.


what do you mean "even easier today" that makes no sense. also your assertion that a junior club and a senior club are at the same level is ridiculous.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5356 - 15/11/2015 17:48:39    1807436

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asdfg I think your view that if Templeport played Kingscourt there would not be much in it, is one of those crazy notions that is prevalent among supporters of lower league clubs, I have heard it so often down the years its unreal. The reality is that as bad as the standard of football is in Senior grade in Cavan, it is well above Intermediate which is a step above Junior. There is a reason why Junior clubs won't allow the reserve sides of the Senior clubs into the Junior championship.
This notion that there is no difference in the grades is part of the problem, no one wanting to admit just how bad the standard is within the county.

eduardo66 (Cavan) - Posts: 64 - 15/11/2015 18:40:33    1807452

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The levels have dropped so there isn't a huge gap between Junior and Senior. Arva with a young improving teanm have come though the ranks and will be in Division 1 A next year.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2216 - 15/11/2015 18:46:59    1807457

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Arva are a young up and coming team, every so often it happens that a club goes from junior to inter to senior in quick time, but they are the exception that prove the rule and so far they have only won a Junior Championship. the last club to go right to the top of football in Cavan from Junior to Intermediate to Senior was Gowna and it took them six years to do it, Junior in 82, Intermediate in 85 and Senior in 88. By and large very few clubs go from even being a stand out side in Intermediate football to being Senior Championship contenders right away. It just does not happen that a team wins the Intermediate one year and then the Senior the next, as I said Gowna with a super team took 3 years of senior football to do it, no one that I can remember has done it any quicker, and I can't recall any team doing it and lasting as a force like Gowna did.

We see clubs yo yo up and down from Junior to Intermediate and back to Junior, far more often than we see them go on up to Senior.

eduardo66 (Cavan) - Posts: 64 - 15/11/2015 19:21:39    1807466

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