Was watching London intermediate champ match today and saw that Nevin O'Donnell was playing in it. Some player stood out a mile from the rest on the field. Very surprised that his home club and for that matter Cavan county have let him go.

greenjumper (Mayo) - Posts: 4 - 09/05/2015 21:05:55    1721875

What can be done its not the boom anymore lads have to go to where work is.

RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 616 - 10/05/2015 09:25:42    1721910

We've lost many more over the last few years.

Lorcan Mulvey was London's stand-out player when they reached the Connaught final. I think Kevin Downes played for them for a while too.

This year, we have seen 2 of our best players pull out due to work commitments / injury problems.

The dedication needed to be an intercounty player these days is crazy and it's no surprise that players are prioritising work, study, health, family and a social life ahead of intercounty football.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4135 - 10/05/2015 12:25:58    1721963

Oisin Minagh was developing well too before he left.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1333 - 10/05/2015 20:58:11    1722244

greenjumper
County: Mayo
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Was watching London intermediate champ match today and saw that Nevin O'Donnell was playing in it. Some player stood out a mile from the rest on the field. Very surprised that his home club and for that matter Cavan county have let him go.

Shannon Gaels are a middle of the road Junior Club in an isolated part of West Cavan, what could they possibly do to keep him? As for Cavan, he was around the fringes of the U21s for a few years, started in the Ulster Final and some of the All Ireland Semi final in 2012, wasn't making squad in his last year and didn't get a place on the Junior team. Hardly the profile of a player the county will push the boat out to keep.

JonSmith (Cavan) - Posts: 1451 - 10/05/2015 21:31:02    1722266

i've a feeling that the London intermediate club scene is a far cry from the Ulster senior intercounty championship scene

wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1481 - 12/05/2015 09:07:28    1722633

wishfulthinkin - Have you seen Cavan this year, some of football they played was comparable to the London Junior Scene, never mind the
intermediate scene - not to dwell on things, but we did fail to score against Tyrone in 35 minutes of football!

deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 12/05/2015 09:41:48    1722642

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County: Cavan
Posts: 156

not to dwell on things, but we did fail to score against Tyrone in 35 minutes of football!


not to dwell on things?? Nah you're grand - nobody has mentioned that on this thread before. .

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4135 - 12/05/2015 10:48:26    1722664

thats a great point deanmartin, informative, insightful and most importantly a point that hasn't been mentioned before.

fxhvg (Cavan) - Posts: 38 - 12/05/2015 11:22:40    1722694

what must be admired about deanmartin's point is that Sean66 hasn't got there before him.

Thank god for these 2 men. There was a danger of a thread running for more than 6 posts without our most successful management team of the past decade being slated. All is well again.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4135 - 12/05/2015 11:41:23    1722702

Cavanman 47 - Most successful management team of the decade? what success exactly have they brought to Cavan? Do you mean the one promotion in 4 yrs? an All-Ireland Q/Final drubbing against Kerry, a drubbing against a relagated Armagh Team in the Ulster Championship, a defeat against Roscommon in the National League Final & All-Ireland Qualifiers, a massive decline in crowd attendances because the standard & stlye of football is abysmal to watch, good players leaving the panel, blaming the pitch in Breffni Park for poor home form?

So again, tell me, apart from going up to Division 2, how have they been successful?

deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 12/05/2015 12:01:47    1722713

Hey just noticed on the fantasy Gaelic there is no S Johnson on either Cavan or Kildare panels and when I search counties there is no option to click on the "Abyss". Well done to the management :)

cavan97 (Cavan) - Posts: 369 - 12/05/2015 12:09:48    1722719

deanmartintynan how do you rate the current management to other mangers the last few years ? Have they done a worse job than?

Val Andrews
Tommy Carr
Donal Keoghan

RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 616 - 12/05/2015 12:42:51    1722734

Nevin O'Donnell

This lad was just not good enough at minor or U21 spent more time injured than playing so no great loss to the county set no disrespect meant picked up a few handy medals.

mowbar (Cavan) - Posts: 452 - 12/05/2015 12:55:08    1722742

deanmartin
County: Cavan
Posts: 157

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Cavanman 47 - Most successful management team of the decade? what success exactly have they brought to Cavan? Do you mean the one promotion in 4 yrs? an All-Ireland Q/Final drubbing against Kerry, a drubbing against a relagated Armagh Team in the Ulster Championship, a defeat against Roscommon in the National League Final & All-Ireland Qualifiers, a massive decline in crowd attendances because the standard & stlye of football is abysmal to watch, good players leaving the panel, blaming the pitch in Breffni Park for poor home form?

So again, tell me, apart from going up to Division 2, how have they been successful?


Like RHF has said - who has done better?
The All-Ireland quarter final is our best championship performance since the introduction of the qualifiers.
That same Armagh team came within a point of Donegal in Croke Park last August (before Donegal beat Dublin by 6 points!).
And these "drubbings" you mention were both by 6 points as far as I can remember - not the 18 points Cork hammered us by in 2010 or the 11 points LONGFORD beat us by in Breffni in 2011!

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4135 - 12/05/2015 13:19:52    1722761

And another thread bites the dust but sure while I'm at it Dean; nobody said Hyland was successful (probably because they can predict your response), they said he was the most successful manager of the last decade. Who, in your opinion, has been more successful? Of course been beaten by Kerry is an embarrassment. Armagh, that were relegated, got to the AIQF and within a whisker of beating Donegal. You rank the league higher than championship of course. I'm boring myself here.

The main question that needs to be addressed is to the moderator on this site. Many, many posters have their posts, and in some cases direct responses to a question posed, blocked yet Dean Martin and Sean66 can pretty much copy and paste the same posts. It's ruining any meaningful discussion and make the likes of me bitter rather than discussing the game.

Skelling (USA) - Posts: 288 - 12/05/2015 13:21:21    1722763

Skelling - Meaningful discussion,you mean you want us all to come on and profess our admiration for the 'Brilliant Job' the present management team have done. And here's me thinking that meaninful discussion was about the good & the bad!! You claim Hyland to be the 'most successful manager' of the decade, and again, I ask you, what has he done to make Cavan successful? Surely success means winning something, when the truth is, apart from the recent World Series win in New York, we havent come close to winning anything.
You can say all you want about narrow losses, or Armagh coming close to Donegal, but the reality is we are no further on than what we were under the aforementioned names. In fact, and you can research for yourself, crowd attendances have decreased under his tenure!! I wonder why?

deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 12/05/2015 14:51:20    1722814

And just to add, in all my years of watching & playing football in Breffni Park, never I have I heard anyone complaining about the pitch!! another excuse from a manager way out of his depth in my opinion!

deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 12/05/2015 14:53:22    1722817

RHF - the question is, what has Hyland 'WON' to make him more successful than Keoghan, Carr or Andrews?

Cavan97 - Cast your mind back a few months and tell us who got man of the match in the County Final, and what forward
terrorised defences during the club championsip - Come the Monaghan game, when Cavan need an experienced forward......

deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 12/05/2015 14:57:54    1722822

Now we're getting somewhere Dean.
Where did I ever profess my admiration or otherwise for Hyaland or say he did a brilliant job? I see the good things he's done, which were undeniable until you came along, and I also see the drawbacks to the style of football but I don't feel the need to keep making the same, one-sided point.

Again, "most successful" was the term used so yes, one promotion is better than what had gone before in the last decade. How can you deny this? Where have you pointed out the good as well as the bad? That's the crux of my point; you have nothing positive to say about the current set-up. Until you provide balance your point is meaningless.

I only mentioned Armagh because you pointed out our defeat "to a relegated team". You could have said we lost to a team that made the AIQF but your agenda wouldn't be served by that so you mention the league relegation.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember any member of the management blaming the pitch for a defeat.

This a thread (a bizarre one) about Cavan losing players and what has it become? Again, it's the moderator that allows this. I guess he/she see the comic side but I think pretty much everyone sees what you're up to and it's very, very tiresome at this stage.

Skelling (USA) - Posts: 288 - 12/05/2015 15:28:21    1722839