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Replying To cavanblueman:  "Things are looking very positive at the moment after all the negativity before Christmas and the Armagh defeat. We have some consistency now and I've no doubt that we can win the rest of our games, but without sounding negative, would this team be better with another year in Division 2 rather than going up to Division One with the likelihood that we'll go back down again? Having said that, it could be harder to avoid promotion than it would be to merely maintain our position in Division Two, and a National League Title wouldnt go amiss either!

We still have a long way to go, we've been training since October, whilst most of the top teams are not long back, yet they still have produced some scintillating football. Too often over the years, Cavan have peaked too early in the year, fitness has been one of the reasons we got our last three wins but with the exception of last years Championship, our other championship runs have been fairly poor so lets just enjoy their current form and see where we go."
1 of Donegal or Mayo look set for the drop along with Meath.
Cork are rejuvenated and will be pushing for consecutive promotions.
Division 2 will be tougher next year than this.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4135 - 25/02/2020 00:14:14    2269937

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I wouldn't say we are guaranteed to stay iin Div 2 but we are no longer a team looking over our shoulder. These lads are raising the bar for themselves and strike me as a group with aspirations. And I think they have earned the right to be taken seriously. Sure, the bubble could burst, but you have to be proud of their spirit. I don't think these lads would have laid down in front of Tyrone last summer.

ondforty (Cavan) - Posts: 442 - 25/02/2020 07:46:33    2269951

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Let's keep on taking it one game at a time. We have Clare in the park next Sunday and they will be desperate to stay out of the relegation spots given the two tier Championship during the summer. What we can say at this point in time is that this group has done the county proud and should be receiving our full backing.

kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 572 - 25/02/2020 10:46:39    2269994

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Replying To cavanman47:  "1 of Donegal or Mayo look set for the drop along with Meath.
Cork are rejuvenated and will be pushing for consecutive promotions.
Division 2 will be tougher next year than this."
agreed, We have been lucky recently that when we are in div 1 , 2 of the big guns are div 2 and then when we go down the big guns have gone up so it's imperative that we get up this year or we may never get up. Donegal are not a div 2 team and neither are Mayo. I would claim that Donegal are the 3rd or 4th best team in the country (behind Dublin and Kerry) and vying for the next slots with Monaghan and Galway.
I would say that the current div 1 are the 8 best teams in the country ( you could make a case for Roscommon v Meath), however next year I dont think that anyone would be claiming that the top 8 teams are all in Div 1.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5356 - 25/02/2020 11:24:58    2270015

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Replying To s goldrick:  "agreed, We have been lucky recently that when we are in div 1 , 2 of the big guns are div 2 and then when we go down the big guns have gone up so it's imperative that we get up this year or we may never get up. Donegal are not a div 2 team and neither are Mayo. I would claim that Donegal are the 3rd or 4th best team in the country (behind Dublin and Kerry) and vying for the next slots with Monaghan and Galway.
I would say that the current div 1 are the 8 best teams in the country ( you could make a case for Roscommon v Meath), however next year I dont think that anyone would be claiming that the top 8 teams are all in Div 1."
I don't think Meath are necessarily top 8. Roscommon have a fair claim to that, we would if it were based on league of course, but to be honest I don't really care. If we're in the top 2 in this division at the end of round 7 I'll be happy.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4135 - 25/02/2020 11:56:11    2270029

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I suppose now that we have a few wins under our belt and sit top of the table the sunshine supporters will be back out on sunday.....

Breffni81 (Cavan) - Posts: 175 - 25/02/2020 12:09:11    2270034

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Replying To cavanman47:  "1 of Donegal or Mayo look set for the drop along with Meath.
Cork are rejuvenated and will be pushing for consecutive promotions.
Division 2 will be tougher next year than this."
Thats what everyone said last year! Meath are a very average team wouldnt fear them at all.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1333 - 25/02/2020 12:18:28    2270037

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Replying To fredflint:  "Thats what everyone said last year! Meath are a very average team wouldnt fear them at all."
You misread my post, I wasn't including Meath in the list of teams to watch.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4135 - 25/02/2020 13:58:23    2270069

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Replying To s goldrick:  "agreed, We have been lucky recently that when we are in div 1 , 2 of the big guns are div 2 and then when we go down the big guns have gone up so it's imperative that we get up this year or we may never get up. Donegal are not a div 2 team and neither are Mayo. I would claim that Donegal are the 3rd or 4th best team in the country (behind Dublin and Kerry) and vying for the next slots with Monaghan and Galway.
I would say that the current div 1 are the 8 best teams in the country ( you could make a case for Roscommon v Meath), however next year I dont think that anyone would be claiming that the top 8 teams are all in Div 1."
What big guns were in div 2 when we have been in div 1, with the exception of Donegal in 2018, there hasn't been any big guns, as you call them in div 2 at all

Cavan_Ned (Cavan) - Posts: 85 - 25/02/2020 15:01:32    2270083

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Replying To Cavan_Ned:  "What big guns were in div 2 when we have been in div 1, with the exception of Donegal in 2018, there hasn't been any big guns, as you call them in div 2 at all"
2019 not 2018

Cavan_Ned (Cavan) - Posts: 85 - 25/02/2020 15:13:30    2270091

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Tyrone and Galway in 2016

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2216 - 25/02/2020 15:25:18    2270100

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Replying To cavanman47:  "1 of Donegal or Mayo look set for the drop along with Meath.
Cork are rejuvenated and will be pushing for consecutive promotions.
Division 2 will be tougher next year than this."
I don't think Cork will be pushing for consecutive promotions

Breffnisbest (Cavan) - Posts: 412 - 25/02/2020 16:06:07    2270112

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "Tyrone and Galway in 2016"
Did Galway and Kildare not come get promoted 2017 from Div 2, when we had our first year up in Division 1? In 2016, it was ourselves and Tyrone that got promoted.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 986 - 25/02/2020 16:08:32    2270113

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "Tyrone and Galway in 2016"
Sure Cavan bate Galway in 2016 to get promoted.

Benjy1000 (Cavan) - Posts: 80 - 25/02/2020 16:09:19    2270114

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "Tyrone and Galway in 2016"
We were in Div 2 in 2016 too and bet Galway to get promoted.

Cavan_Ned (Cavan) - Posts: 85 - 25/02/2020 21:31:38    2270195

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A win against Clare is vital. We could still get dragged into a relegation dogfight and the last two games will be tough. Hoping for a big crowd to support the lads on Sunday and get behind them. Clare will be fighting for their lives as a loss and they're gone to tier 2.

BreffniGuide (Cavan) - Posts: 450 - 26/02/2020 23:10:08    2270408

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Replying To Cavan_Ned:  "We were in Div 2 in 2016 too and bet Galway to get promoted."
Read your e comment wrong

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2216 - 27/02/2020 10:48:39    2270453

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Good luck to the team and management for the remainder of the league and championship. They have all answered the call and are giving their all for our county. The last time we won an Ulster it was with a bunch of players who kept going until they won they didn't bugger off and paint themselves to be some kinds of martyrs. Those players contributed to Cavan football long after as well by coaching and managing teams.
Forget about the deserters and appreciate the men who are sticking with the County.
Dont listen to the ex County men who love to criticise, this panel are putting in the hard yards and pushing on.

Setantawatchl (Cavan) - Posts: 132 - 28/02/2020 13:29:10    2270677

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Replying To Setantawatchl:  "Good luck to the team and management for the remainder of the league and championship. They have all answered the call and are giving their all for our county. The last time we won an Ulster it was with a bunch of players who kept going until they won they didn't bugger off and paint themselves to be some kinds of martyrs. Those players contributed to Cavan football long after as well by coaching and managing teams.
Forget about the deserters and appreciate the men who are sticking with the County.
Dont listen to the ex County men who love to criticise, this panel are putting in the hard yards and pushing on."
Deserters !!!
A bit harsh. if lads can't commit then they can't commit. They are not deserters
deserter definition: 1. a person who leaves the armed forces without permission
Firstly they are not in the army. Secondly they are not contracted or bound to play for the county. Thirdly, they don't have to seek anyone's permission to leave.
If they can't commit 100% then they are right to leave, be that for family, work or anything else, it's their business and no one else's.
I'm pretty sure there were lads who trained all winter only to be dropped, so it works in reverse.
The lads who leave are not deserters, defectors or any other derogatory term who can think of. They simply left for reasons which were important to them.
If they were forced to stay there would be a negative effect on moral.
So dismount your high horse. There's more to live than football.
Also ex- players are entitled to their opinion. Everyone has an opinion. We don't all have to agree with you or anyone else.
Most panelists are ex-players.

StirringIt (Cavan) - Posts: 374 - 28/02/2020 15:47:04    2270708

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I've a right to an opinion too

The current crop of players are trying their best despite your love of those who walked

You know the whinging ex players down the pub who bore the bejaysus out of everyone with their bull, or are you deliberately ignoring that?

If you have the talent, stick with it, and push on, don't look for the praise given by people like you with low standards and little loyalty.

Setantawatchl (Cavan) - Posts: 132 - 29/02/2020 07:03:15    2270785

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