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eam is named whatever you can read into it:

1 Raymond Galligan
2 Paddy Meade
3 Padraig Faulkner
4 Killian Brady
5 Gerard Smith
6 Ciaran Brady
7 Oisin Kiernan
8 Benjamin Kelly
9 Gearoid McKiernan
10 Stephen Smith
11 Martin Reilly
12 Evan Doughty
13 Oisin Pierson
14 Bryan Magee
15 Simon Cadden

https://cavangaa.ie/2020/01/cavan-te...gspan-breffni/

16 Liam Brady
17 Luke Fortune
18 Paul Gilcreest
19 Christopher Conroy
20 Evaan Fortune
21 James Smith
22 Liam Buchanan
23 Ryan Connolly
24 Cormac O'Reilly
25 Thomas Galligan
26 Kian Monahan

BreffniGuide (Cavan) - Posts: 450 - 31/01/2020 15:06:27    2264008

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Missing 5 of our better player's tomorrow night in Madden Jason Conor Brady and 2 Murray's hopefully the lads that take to the field do the business but man is that squad very thin compared to the last 6 to 7 year's

IanMccullagh (Cavan) - Posts: 7 - 31/01/2020 16:59:48    2264024

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Best of luck to the boys who take to the field in blue tomorrow evening. Let's hope we can register our first win.

kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 572 - 31/01/2020 17:41:14    2264027

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Replying To aceofspades:  "They need to start by cutting this underage link to St Pats,year on year it's the same our minor squads are full of lads from unsuccessful St Pats teams and this year is no different. This year's Rannafast Squad who make up most of the minor panel didn't get by the quarter finals and we expect them to beat Derry in April??? The St Pat's MacRory starting team consisted of 10 of last years minors with the remainder made up of the previous years minors, yet they still couldn't beat a co-Ed school from Derry last week,and in an earlier round were beaten by 27 points by another Derry college.This link to St Pats hasn't worked for up on 50 years, it high time we started to select players based on their ability and not because of who they are. Then and only then we might see our top players coming through and being committed to the county in the future.Alas these young lads realise pretty quick that it's politics that selects the county squads and not ability so they move on and find other sports like soccer,athletics,rugby and even maybe basketball."
To call teams from st pats unsuccessful is absolutely stupid.St Pats is and has been the most successful School team in Cavan by a long shot the last 10 years. This years Rannafast team has been very successful in which they reached a brock final last year in which they were narrowly beaten, they won a cor na nog title and also got to a dalton final. The players are competing at a high, competitive level of ulster schools A, much more competitive than any other secondary schools in Cavan showing that there players are obviously of a high standard. Also with research the majority of players from the st pats Rannafast team on the Cavan minor team play division one club football with their clubs such as southern gaels, drumlomane gaels, lough uachtar gaels and killygarry which also indicates that these player have great ability. With research you will find that most successful minor teams from other county's over the past few years players have come from schools playing at ulster schools A competitions, for example the majority of Monaghan minors last year and the year before who won the ulster championship play with st macartens and st patricians carrick both colleges playing at ulster A level with obviously the odd player from smaller less recognised schools there too. similar to the situation in what cavan and most other counties have.
Secondly, st pats macrory starting team consisted of 10 of last years minors which shows that all these players are 17 year of age going on 18 playing in an under 19 competition which is a total disadvantage as most northern teams consist of players who are 18 going on 19 years old. This st pats team at the same age group won a Rannafast cup however 11 player of the starting team who won that competition are no longer in the school as they skipped transition year, so to expect st pats to compete and win a macrory cup would be very difficult.
Maybe when the time comes that schools such as Virginia, coothill and balliboro are playing at the level that st pats are then more players from these schools will represent cavan minors. It only makes sense that there are more st pats lads than any other school on the minors as they have proven their quality.For example If you look at England soccer team selecting their squad all the players will come from the premiership as they are the best players, playing at the highest standard. So I think it's time to stop being jealous and criticising st pats because the work and effort they put in is outstanding and the players and management deserve credit. Correct me if I'm I wrong but the minor manager and selectors are from Virginia therefore they would have no biased towards st pats and I'm sure they are picking the squad not st pats so let them do their job.

Breffni24 (Cavan) - Posts: 2 - 31/01/2020 21:14:44    2264075

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St Pats have a bigger area to pick from compared to those schools. There is players from Swanlinbar going to St Pats.
I don't think putting all the eggs in one basket is a good thing either. In the North they all have 2 or 3 strong schools in each County

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2216 - 01/02/2020 10:25:08    2264134

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What has st pats got to with looseing 12 players ??

goonie (Cavan) - Posts: 292 - 01/02/2020 11:20:01    2264146

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Replying To Breffni24:  "To call teams from st pats unsuccessful is absolutely stupid.St Pats is and has been the most successful School team in Cavan by a long shot the last 10 years. This years Rannafast team has been very successful in which they reached a brock final last year in which they were narrowly beaten, they won a cor na nog title and also got to a dalton final. The players are competing at a high, competitive level of ulster schools A, much more competitive than any other secondary schools in Cavan showing that there players are obviously of a high standard. Also with research the majority of players from the st pats Rannafast team on the Cavan minor team play division one club football with their clubs such as southern gaels, drumlomane gaels, lough uachtar gaels and killygarry which also indicates that these player have great ability. With research you will find that most successful minor teams from other county's over the past few years players have come from schools playing at ulster schools A competitions, for example the majority of Monaghan minors last year and the year before who won the ulster championship play with st macartens and st patricians carrick both colleges playing at ulster A level with obviously the odd player from smaller less recognised schools there too. similar to the situation in what cavan and most other counties have.
Secondly, st pats macrory starting team consisted of 10 of last years minors which shows that all these players are 17 year of age going on 18 playing in an under 19 competition which is a total disadvantage as most northern teams consist of players who are 18 going on 19 years old. This st pats team at the same age group won a Rannafast cup however 11 player of the starting team who won that competition are no longer in the school as they skipped transition year, so to expect st pats to compete and win a macrory cup would be very difficult.
Maybe when the time comes that schools such as Virginia, coothill and balliboro are playing at the level that st pats are then more players from these schools will represent cavan minors. It only makes sense that there are more st pats lads than any other school on the minors as they have proven their quality.For example If you look at England soccer team selecting their squad all the players will come from the premiership as they are the best players, playing at the highest standard. So I think it's time to stop being jealous and criticising st pats because the work and effort they put in is outstanding and the players and management deserve credit. Correct me if I'm I wrong but the minor manager and selectors are from Virginia therefore they would have no biased towards st pats and I'm sure they are picking the squad not st pats so let them do their job."
for example the majority of Monaghan minors last year and the year before who won the ulster championship play with st macartens and st patricians carrick both colleges playing at ulster A level with obviously the odd player from smaller less recognised schools there too. similar to the situation in what cavan and most other counties have.

I have to agree that in Monaghan, the emergence of Patrician HighSchool Carrickmacross as a second Ulster A level college (in addition to St McCartan's) has been critically important in the recent successes of our county minors. In fact Patrician Carrickmacross, are now contributing more players to the county minors than McCartans. However, other colleges are also performing ie Ballybay Community College last year won an All Ireland in their category ! But to be honest I don't see Cavan doing a whole lot wrong at under age level. The task of all counties is to bring these players through to senior level.

Monaghan have 3 dropouts this year to our senior starting 15 ......O'Hanlon, Garland & Kerr plus a number of others at squad level so Cavan are not on their own in terms of 'drop outs' this year !

Keep the faith lads & support your county !

Shelbourne1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 179 - 01/02/2020 13:35:07    2264174

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Best of luck to the Cavan team and management against Westmeath this evening. Whatever you say about them, these are the lads committed to wearing the jersey so please get out and support them this evening!

BreffniGuide (Cavan) - Posts: 450 - 01/02/2020 16:16:03    2264197

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Unbelievable stuff in the second half tonight . I had tears In the eyes at at the end with the character showing. Lads dying with their boots on . That's all we ask as cavan fans . You made the county proud tonight . Well done all .

blueskies (Cavan) - Posts: 151 - 01/02/2020 20:57:10    2264289

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Great comeback. Well done

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2216 - 01/02/2020 21:11:07    2264303

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Replying To blueskies:  "Unbelievable stuff in the second half tonight . I had tears In the eyes at at the end with the character showing. Lads dying with their boots on . That's all we ask as cavan fans . You made the county proud tonight . Well done all ."
You said it spot on blue skies, and what a statement by Thomas Galligan to management , what a performance by him , best second have display since Wicklow in the park a few years ago .Never give up attitude was shown tonight well done !!

goonie (Cavan) - Posts: 292 - 01/02/2020 21:36:03    2264316

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What a rollercoaster and what a win. Just a pity so few were there to see it. These lads gave their all tonight. Well done lads.

BreffniGuide (Cavan) - Posts: 450 - 01/02/2020 23:08:02    2264357

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Replying To blueskies:  "Unbelievable stuff in the second half tonight . I had tears In the eyes at at the end with the character showing. Lads dying with their boots on . That's all we ask as cavan fans . You made the county proud tonight . Well done all ."
I've been to many games in Breffni over the years but this will live long in the memory. Almost like that league game away to Meath 2 years ago. Let's put the negativity aside, rise up together and move forward with confidence.

Confidence was at a low ebb in the first half. Red card was soft but the lad wasn't at the pitch of the game. Needs more time. Communication needs to be improved across the pitch. Moving the ball latergically across the middle doesn't work for us. We need to be more direct. A few lads looked a bit gased in the first half.

But what a first 5 minutes to the second half. Galligan was immense. Everything we were looking for. Ran the hard runs. And the other subs did a job. When we conceded a quick fire 1-1,we didn't buckle. Them 5 minutes could define a season. On a side note, we need more from Faulkner and Martin and Gerry and big g(should be left on 40). There is more in them. These men are our leaders. Forgot about who is gone. Even when we had them lads, we got many a hiding. Time moves on, and so have we.

1-13 in the second half says it all. Forwards were decent. Magee ran some great runs. Need to feed him more. Doughy should play in opposite wing. Better cutting in. Connolly is a good impact sub.

All we wanted was pride in the Jersey. By God, we got that.

Let's look forward to the next confidence, chin up and pep in our step.

waynerooney11 (Cavan) - Posts: 132 - 01/02/2020 23:50:03    2264364

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Proud to be a blue this morning. Well done to all!

kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 572 - 02/02/2020 08:50:14    2264383

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Well done to all. Great comeback. Also big shoutout to Oisin Kiernan after all that he has gone through. Great performance. Along with the afore-mentioned T Galligan also Ray who nailed 2 long-range efforts at crucial times. A few lads still a bit raw but that's to be expected after the experienced lads dropped out. Stick with them throughout this league and they will be all the better for it. Didn't expect Laois to turn over Armagh so they will be a tough ask but if we play positive football like we did in second half then that's all you can ask, win lose or draw.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5356 - 02/02/2020 11:03:30    2264407

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Great second half comeback last night, couldn't have seen it coming based on first half. Credit to the management two half time subs made the difference.Galligan was immense powerful and took control of midfield,Murray brought speed and direct running at the opposition. As a result of both these men's contributions we upped the pace and the team began to grow in confidence. On the downside we need to improve our discipline.Another game spent a man down for 50 odd minutes. We have to learn we can't afford to give the opposition an extra man .

evano11 (Cavan) - Posts: 257 - 02/02/2020 11:48:05    2264415

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Well done to them players yesterday, up against it and under massive pressure and boy did they stand up and fight. Huge boost for morale in the camp. Special mention to Holla and Thomas Galligan who were outstanding.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1333 - 02/02/2020 12:15:47    2264421

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Well done to all the lads yesterday evening super 2nd half performance and never say die attitude should give them great confidence going forward.

blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 743 - 02/02/2020 12:40:38    2264426

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Didn't see that result coming five mins into the game. Looked like a back to back hiding on the cards. WM played with high pace and intensity with the ball, and a well rewarded direct approach. They seemed to score on most of their forward surges, but ran out of steam in final quarter.

In horse-racing parlance, we out-stayed them. I think we have limited quality but huge hearts. The players in blue were a credit to themselves and we should appreciate their integrity but manage our expectations of them. Survival in Div 2 would be a great achievement this year.

ondforty (Cavan) - Posts: 442 - 02/02/2020 13:48:03    2264442

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The lads yesterday showed a lot of character, bottle and no shortage of quality, something which some of the dropouts maybe didn't always show. The tactics in the first half left a lot to be desired but in fairness they came out a different outfit in the second half. Holla was outstanding, ran the show in the second half. Thomas Gallighan bossed the middle of the field when introduced and his cousin Ray showed great leadership. Overall a very encouraging victory but we need to cut out the indiscipline, the black cards will kill us against better teams and the red is totally inexcusable.

CavanAgain (Cavan) - Posts: 149 - 02/02/2020 17:04:24    2264505

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