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Best of luck to the Cavan team and management tomorrow. Hopefully the winning run can keep going.
BreffniGuide (Cavan) - Posts: 450 - 29/02/2020 11:36:19
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Best of luck to the lads tomorrow. A win tomorrow would be 4 in a row, last 3 times we did a run like that, we got promoted so omens are good there. We're never good as favourites though, so who knows... Hope we do the job. Match is part of a double header, the hurlers are up against Sligo before at 12.30. Anyone going to the game, sure why not go in a little bit earlier and cheer the lads on as well. Not too often you get an opportunity like that for your ticket here
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 986 - 29/02/2020 21:19:44
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Replying To Loughduff Lad: "Best of luck to the lads tomorrow. A win tomorrow would be 4 in a row, last 3 times we did a run like that, we got promoted so omens are good there. We're never good as favourites though, so who knows... Hope we do the job. Match is part of a double header, the hurlers are up against Sligo before at 12.30. Anyone going to the game, sure why not go in a little bit earlier and cheer the lads on as well. Not too often you get an opportunity like that for your ticket here" The hurling match has been switched to the 3G because of the weather,
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 29/02/2020 22:09:51
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Replying To Breffni81: "I suppose now that we have a few wins under our belt and sit top of the table the sunshine supporters will be back out on sunday....." If they come out there will be little sunshine if any. More of today's weather forecasted. The hurling match has been moved to the 3G so just one game. Come early if you want a good seat on the stand however. There was a reasonable support against Westmeath to be fair,
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 29/02/2020 22:18:00
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Faulkner and Oisin Pierson about the only 2 to emerge with any credit from that game. Clare far too cute for us.
GallantJohnJoe (Cavan) - Posts: 310 - 01/03/2020 16:20:47
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Disappointing today , probably tactics in the first half was wrong , but not all doom and gloom , we are sitting with 6 points at the minute, we had an off day ,that happens . Important match against Kildare in two weeks which we need to win to secure div 2 status .
goonie (Cavan) - Posts: 292 - 01/03/2020 19:30:13
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Replying To goonie: "Disappointing today , probably tactics in the first half was wrong , but not all doom and gloom , we are sitting with 6 points at the minute, we had an off day ,that happens . Important match against Kildare in two weeks which we need to win to secure div 2 status ." Ten points will get them promotion. Who would have thought that after their Armagh game.
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 01/03/2020 20:07:34
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Replying To The Quiet Man: "Ten points will get them promotion. Who would have thought that after their Armagh game." Not you. You were calling us a division 3 team.
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4135 - 01/03/2020 20:28:13
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Replying To The Quiet Man: "Ten points will get them promotion. Who would have thought that after their Armagh game." everyone would have thought that. 10 points would get anyone promotion. Whether they get it is another question. My own opinion is that we wont get any more points . Roscommon and Kildare are 2 tough well-seasoned teams. We have done well to get 6 points. I hope it's enough.
s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5356 - 01/03/2020 20:46:23
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Disappointing today, but perhaps in hindsight it was not unexpected. We had 3 weeks on the bounce following the postponed game. Lots of teams find the 3 game thing hard especially when they come up against a team that haven't that many. Despite that, the lads were close. We were poor in the first half, but honestly everything Clare did, whether shots or the breaks just came up for them time and again, they seemed to have all the luck. Seemed to be the opposite for us. Crowd weren't behind the team first half either. Second half with the crowd finally behind them they started like they were on fire and got 5 points in 5 mins (unlucky not to get a goal too) and then Clare started killing the game. Lying down to kill momentum and all that stuff which they did all half. They came with a plan and it worked for them. They had 14 men regularly in their half, and then had a few speedsters to break up the field quickly to pick off the odd point. Thought we'd do enough in the second half but you could see the lads were tired. They battled hard in the second half though so credit there. A break now will do them well, it was a good run. We're likely not as good as we thought we were recently, and also not as bad today. Clare are likely the opposite to the statement too. No harm tempering expectations and now we can knuckle down for the final two matches and try to get something out of them. You get data like this. Disappointing overall but lots to learn from.
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 986 - 01/03/2020 21:02:32
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Replying To Loughduff Lad: "Disappointing today, but perhaps in hindsight it was not unexpected. We had 3 weeks on the bounce following the postponed game. Lots of teams find the 3 game thing hard especially when they come up against a team that haven't that many. Despite that, the lads were close. We were poor in the first half, but honestly everything Clare did, whether shots or the breaks just came up for them time and again, they seemed to have all the luck. Seemed to be the opposite for us. Crowd weren't behind the team first half either. Second half with the crowd finally behind them they started like they were on fire and got 5 points in 5 mins (unlucky not to get a goal too) and then Clare started killing the game. Lying down to kill momentum and all that stuff which they did all half. They came with a plan and it worked for them. They had 14 men regularly in their half, and then had a few speedsters to break up the field quickly to pick off the odd point. Thought we'd do enough in the second half but you could see the lads were tired. They battled hard in the second half though so credit there. A break now will do them well, it was a good run. We're likely not as good as we thought we were recently, and also not as bad today. Clare are likely the opposite to the statement too. No harm tempering expectations and now we can knuckle down for the final two matches and try to get something out of them. You get data like this. Disappointing overall but lots to learn from." Yes but Cavan are used to having 14 behind the ball so no strangers to it. As for player lying down strange this two they would be used to when you see the Armagh Donegal the Tyrone's wasting time feining cramp ect. This second division is weak and sadly it's so hard to say there are any strong team in it. Staying there for another twelve months will do no harm at all once they continue to finish in the top 14.
Yes two hard games ahead agains Kildare and then Roscommon they may well be promotion games. Both teams are making heavy weather of their games so you never know Cavan may well beat both of them. One would expect Armagh to beat Fermanagh so they will be on 7 with Roscommon when the 6th round starts. Cavan will have the advantage of knowing what they have to do as Armagh V Roscommon is on next saturday week.
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 01/03/2020 21:37:50
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Replying To cavanman47: "Not you. You were calling us a division 3 team." That was me who said we had Div 3 players , that was about the team against Armagh , Look let's be honest we have players who is up to that standard, but in fairness to them guys, apart from today's game, they showed some serious heart to get the next 3 wins . This team has my full respect, all any supporter wants to see is the players giving it there all , and in fairness these guy has, against Fermanagh , Laois and West Meath so I'm not too concerned about today's result
goonie (Cavan) - Posts: 292 - 01/03/2020 23:37:31
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Again cannot fault the lads for effort yesterday. Overall they exceeded expectations in this camaign.
The fear would have to be that when we cannot outlast teams or have the energy to suffocate them with runners and scorers coming from everywhere, that we may not have the guile and firepower to unlock defenses enough, and end up playing in front of a screen and depending on frees.
My guess would be we will be on the receiving end of 3/4 point defeats in the last two games unfortunately, but my gut feeling is that it should be enough to stay up at the expense of 2 of Fermanagh, Laois, Westmeath.
Young Pierson has stepped up a good bit in fairness, and will hopefully keep progressing but we need a lot more improvement in the forward line individually and as whole to put a dent in Monaghan in the c'ship, now looking forward.
Mgmt. will need to find someting extra or different than we have seen so far to do so, but I'm not even sure myself what that might be off the top of my head.
McKiernan's lack of form excluding the Laois game would also be a worry.
PatTheDandy (Cavan) - Posts: 282 - 02/03/2020 16:20:02
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Replying To PatTheDandy: "Again cannot fault the lads for effort yesterday. Overall they exceeded expectations in this camaign.
The fear would have to be that when we cannot outlast teams or have the energy to suffocate them with runners and scorers coming from everywhere, that we may not have the guile and firepower to unlock defenses enough, and end up playing in front of a screen and depending on frees.
My guess would be we will be on the receiving end of 3/4 point defeats in the last two games unfortunately, but my gut feeling is that it should be enough to stay up at the expense of 2 of Fermanagh, Laois, Westmeath.
Young Pierson has stepped up a good bit in fairness, and will hopefully keep progressing but we need a lot more improvement in the forward line individually and as whole to put a dent in Monaghan in the c'ship, now looking forward.
Mgmt. will need to find someting extra or different than we have seen so far to do so, but I'm not even sure myself what that might be off the top of my head.
McKiernan's lack of form excluding the Laois game would also be a worry." You obviously weren't watching him against Fermanagh.
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Replying To fearman: "You obviously weren't watching him against Fermanagh." Meant the Fermanagh game actually. The one where he scored 5 points.
PatTheDandy (Cavan) - Posts: 282 - 03/03/2020 09:10:33
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Replying To PatTheDandy: "Again cannot fault the lads for effort yesterday. Overall they exceeded expectations in this camaign.
The fear would have to be that when we cannot outlast teams or have the energy to suffocate them with runners and scorers coming from everywhere, that we may not have the guile and firepower to unlock defenses enough, and end up playing in front of a screen and depending on frees.
My guess would be we will be on the receiving end of 3/4 point defeats in the last two games unfortunately, but my gut feeling is that it should be enough to stay up at the expense of 2 of Fermanagh, Laois, Westmeath.
Young Pierson has stepped up a good bit in fairness, and will hopefully keep progressing but we need a lot more improvement in the forward line individually and as whole to put a dent in Monaghan in the c'ship, now looking forward.
Mgmt. will need to find someting extra or different than we have seen so far to do so, but I'm not even sure myself what that might be off the top of my head.
McKiernan's lack of form excluding the Laois game would also be a worry." Interesting that you feel we need to get more from the forward line. I'd disagree. There's very little the forward line can do if we are too slow at transitioning the ball up the pitch.
Clare could win a turnover and within a minute they'd have the ball up the pitch and over the bar.
We'd win the ball and we'd turn sideways, pass sideways and were sluggish and slow - what chance have our forwards if, by the time the ball gets to them, the opposition have 14 men back to cover?
Thomas Galligan was moved in full forward and I don't think one ball was kicked into him - what was the point in putting him in there? It achieved nothing only helping the opposition because his direct running was gone from out the pitch.
Ryan Connolly came on and the ball didn't come up the wing he was on once so he had to go chasing it out the pitch.
There's no point criticising forwards that aren't getting the ball with space to play in.
Counties like Galway are showing quick and direct play is the way to go and we need to get up to speed.
BreffniGuide (Cavan) - Posts: 450 - 06/03/2020 12:31:26
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Replying To BreffniGuide: "Interesting that you feel we need to get more from the forward line. I'd disagree. There's very little the forward line can do if we are too slow at transitioning the ball up the pitch.
Clare could win a turnover and within a minute they'd have the ball up the pitch and over the bar.
We'd win the ball and we'd turn sideways, pass sideways and were sluggish and slow - what chance have our forwards if, by the time the ball gets to them, the opposition have 14 men back to cover?
Thomas Galligan was moved in full forward and I don't think one ball was kicked into him - what was the point in putting him in there? It achieved nothing only helping the opposition because his direct running was gone from out the pitch.
Ryan Connolly came on and the ball didn't come up the wing he was on once so he had to go chasing it out the pitch.
There's no point criticising forwards that aren't getting the ball with space to play in.
Counties like Galway are showing quick and direct play is the way to go and we need to get up to speed." Counties like Galway are showing quick and direct play is the way to go and we need to get up to speed.
Galway have talent ! Simple as ...
Ulster title this year will be decided in the first round game between Tyrone and Donegal.
Monaghan will be their opposition but winner will be the winner of the above clash. Probably Donegal.
Cavan will puff and blow for a few rounds in the qualifiers as usual. Last year was a one off catching Monaghan in the first round with a penalty that wasn't one and took two games to get past an average Armagh side to get a lesson from Donegal in the final. Men v Boys !
We flatter to deceive. We are average. Have been for years. We are mid div 2 team but some people are living in the past.
We are like meath, once a great team. Not any more.
Needs to be a 10 year plan put in place starting with a proper coaching structure in clubs. Bringing all the kids to a county run training session every month to teach and enhance their skills.
Continue that structure the whole way up year after year. Have 2 squads at u15, 16, 17, 20. Keep competition for places.
Stop bowing to Pats. The tail wagged the dog for long enough. if they are not turning up for county training then someone else will take their place. other schools play football and their players are expected to make training .
Get proper coaches. Some think its about shouting and roaring. We've seen it down through the years. Encourage, develop, enhance, teach...
StirringIt (Cavan) - Posts: 374 - 06/03/2020 17:56:59
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Replying To StirringIt: "Counties like Galway are showing quick and direct play is the way to go and we need to get up to speed.
Galway have talent ! Simple as ...
Ulster title this year will be decided in the first round game between Tyrone and Donegal.
Monaghan will be their opposition but winner will be the winner of the above clash. Probably Donegal.
Cavan will puff and blow for a few rounds in the qualifiers as usual. Last year was a one off catching Monaghan in the first round with a penalty that wasn't one and took two games to get past an average Armagh side to get a lesson from Donegal in the final. Men v Boys !
We flatter to deceive. We are average. Have been for years. We are mid div 2 team but some people are living in the past.
We are like meath, once a great team. Not any more.
Needs to be a 10 year plan put in place starting with a proper coaching structure in clubs. Bringing all the kids to a county run training session every month to teach and enhance their skills.
Continue that structure the whole way up year after year. Have 2 squads at u15, 16, 17, 20. Keep competition for places.
Stop bowing to Pats. The tail wagged the dog for long enough. if they are not turning up for county training then someone else will take their place. other schools play football and their players are expected to make training .
Get proper coaches. Some think its about shouting and roaring. We've seen it down through the years. Encourage, develop, enhance, teach..." Cavan have nobody like Shane Walsh, awesome player. But they can still stop with the lateral passing. Too much head down soling, more kick passing would benefit then
FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2216 - 06/03/2020 19:44:43
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Replying To StirringIt: "Counties like Galway are showing quick and direct play is the way to go and we need to get up to speed.
Galway have talent ! Simple as ...
Ulster title this year will be decided in the first round game between Tyrone and Donegal.
Monaghan will be their opposition but winner will be the winner of the above clash. Probably Donegal.
Cavan will puff and blow for a few rounds in the qualifiers as usual. Last year was a one off catching Monaghan in the first round with a penalty that wasn't one and took two games to get past an average Armagh side to get a lesson from Donegal in the final. Men v Boys !
We flatter to deceive. We are average. Have been for years. We are mid div 2 team but some people are living in the past.
We are like meath, once a great team. Not any more.
Needs to be a 10 year plan put in place starting with a proper coaching structure in clubs. Bringing all the kids to a county run training session every month to teach and enhance their skills.
Continue that structure the whole way up year after year. Have 2 squads at u15, 16, 17, 20. Keep competition for places.
Stop bowing to Pats. The tail wagged the dog for long enough. if they are not turning up for county training then someone else will take their place. other schools play football and their players are expected to make training .
Get proper coaches. Some think its about shouting and roaring. We've seen it down through the years. Encourage, develop, enhance, teach..." If you take out the penalty Cavan still beat Monaghan by a point....
JonSmith (Cavan) - Posts: 1451 - 07/03/2020 10:48:16
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Replying To JonSmith: " Replying To StirringIt: "Counties like Galway are showing quick and direct play is the way to go and we need to get up to speed.
Galway have talent ! Simple as ...
Ulster title this year will be decided in the first round game between Tyrone and Donegal.
Monaghan will be their opposition but winner will be the winner of the above clash. Probably Donegal.
Cavan will puff and blow for a few rounds in the qualifiers as usual. Last year was a one off catching Monaghan in the first round with a penalty that wasn't one and took two games to get past an average Armagh side to get a lesson from Donegal in the final. Men v Boys !
We flatter to deceive. We are average. Have been for years. We are mid div 2 team but some people are living in the past.
We are like meath, once a great team. Not any more.
Needs to be a 10 year plan put in place starting with a proper coaching structure in clubs. Bringing all the kids to a county run training session every month to teach and enhance their skills.
Continue that structure the whole way up year after year. Have 2 squads at u15, 16, 17, 20. Keep competition for places.
Stop bowing to Pats. The tail wagged the dog for long enough. if they are not turning up for county training then someone else will take their place. other schools play football and their players are expected to make training .
Get proper coaches. Some think its about shouting and roaring. We've seen it down through the years. Encourage, develop, enhance, teach..." If you take out the penalty Cavan still beat Monaghan by a point...."
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 07/03/2020 21:39:03
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