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Replying To s goldrick:  "well done Cavan Today, great to get the Roscommon monkey of our backs. Let's hope we are competitive in our remaining games. good to see Gerry Smith and Chris Conway back. also delighted to see Conor Madden scoring his goals. Killian Clarke seems to be growing in to the musfield role too. also fair play to Niall Clerkin , I think he played well as did Niall Murray, Martin Reilly and sll the lads gave their all as usual. It will be tough to stay up but it's a great experience playing against the best."
Well done lads , it's in our own hands now,
Some excellent performances. K Clarke done a great job on Enda smith, Niall Murray and Conor Moynagh were excellent, everyone played well.

blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 743 - 25/02/2019 08:27:52    2167824

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Great to be looking down the table at Monaghan. It appears they caught Dublin at the perfect time for an ambush. They've been poor enough since that game and we have a great chance to beat them in Clones.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 406 - 25/02/2019 09:22:54    2167847

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Replying To s goldrick:  "well done Cavan Today, great to get the Roscommon monkey of our backs. Let's hope we are competitive in our remaining games. good to see Gerry Smith and Chris Conway back. also delighted to see Conor Madden scoring his goals. Killian Clarke seems to be growing in to the musfield role too. also fair play to Niall Clerkin , I think he played well as did Niall Murray, Martin Reilly and sll the lads gave their all as usual. It will be tough to stay up but it's a great experience playing against the best."
That's the first game where Clarke has stayed at midfield and it was specifically to mark Smith which he did superbly. Mickey Graham said after the game they decided they needed someone more athletic there so he got his match up right.
Clarke may go back to the full back line in the next game.
The good thing about the win yesterday was that there are items to improve on. Its not like we gave our all to get over the line. We had a comprehensive win but there are definite improvements that can be made e.g. shooting. Also, one or two of our normally consistent players weren't stand out yesterday so it was good to see others come to the fore when they had an off day.
Tyrone away is going to be very tough but another good performance and hopefully another couple of players back for the Monaghan game would be huge.

BreffniGuide (Cavan) - Posts: 450 - 25/02/2019 12:11:27    2167938

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No sign of the cork man and his negative posts after the win yesterday.

theham (Cavan) - Posts: 91 - 25/02/2019 15:58:51    2168054

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Replying To theham:  "No sign of the cork man and his negative posts after the win yesterday."
There is a few on here have nothing to say when there is a good performance and fill up pages with negative stuff when we lose. You'd have to wonder about the mentality of such people. Yesterday was a very good performance and plenty to improve on. Killian was massive at midfield, moynagh was excellent, mcvitty pulled the strings, Niall Murray had a super game and Madden got two brilliant goals. At least we know we belong in Div 1 when we can give a drubbing to a decent team like Roscommon (Super 8 team from last yr). Brilliant to see Gerry Smith back on the field - really looking forward t o seeing him get up to speed.

Now lets take the bit of momentum up to Omagh next week and see what we can do.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1333 - 25/02/2019 16:46:42    2168075

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Replying To Hardtimes:  "That's a very long yardstick you have for improvement Pat- basically beating a top 6 team in Championship. We have a couple of steps to cover before expecting that. League is a good indicator and staying in Division 1 or at least staying as a top Division 2 team is a good indication of quality and consistency. Beating the Tipps, Kildares, Downs and Armaghs regularly in Championship would be another indicator (might actually get us knocking on the door of the Super 8s) and a step or two above where we currently are. Maybe I read your post wrong but we're in no position to be turning our nose down on top 12 teams."
Fair is fair and it's nice to get one over the Rossies by such a convincing manner.
Monaghan are beatable but unfortunately Tyrone are getting results when they need them.
Dubs are a totally different animal.
Beat Monaghan and a draw with Tyrone would see us safe but it won't be easy.
Nice to hear the RTÉ pundits say we're heading in the right direction.

Virginia (Cavan) - Posts: 94 - 25/02/2019 16:59:29    2168079

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Replying To fredflint:  "There is a few on here have nothing to say when there is a good performance and fill up pages with negative stuff when we lose. You'd have to wonder about the mentality of such people. Yesterday was a very good performance and plenty to improve on. Killian was massive at midfield, moynagh was excellent, mcvitty pulled the strings, Niall Murray had a super game and Madden got two brilliant goals. At least we know we belong in Div 1 when we can give a drubbing to a decent team like Roscommon (Super 8 team from last yr). Brilliant to see Gerry Smith back on the field - really looking forward t o seeing him get up to speed.

Now lets take the bit of momentum up to Omagh next week and see what we can do."
The problem is posters keep interacting with these people.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 11690 - 25/02/2019 17:18:31    2168088

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Replying To Breffni39:  "The problem is posters keep interacting with these people."
Thank you for your post. As I was not at the match yesterday due to being ill and today also. I don't comment on games that I don't see.
I just logged on to see how things were going with this topic.
My posts are not negative but close to the truth that I am allowed to go by HS.
A brilliant win yesterday and long overdue. I worry however that it took the sending off of the Roscommon player for Cavan to take the reins but I will not use it as an excuse for as I said I did not see the game.
I worry about this for this will not happen for every game. So have we learnt anything I am not sure but I hope they go on and take 3 more points for I feel 5 points will keep them safe.
Will Tyrone lay down I fear not
Will Monaghan lay down I fear not but I feel this is a must win game for both teams.
Will they get change from Dublin no chance.
So unfortunately I fear we lost the chance to remain in Division one by losing against Mayo and Galway.
There will be loads of positives from this off course and the players will feel a new spring in their steps and long may it continue.
At the start of the league I predicted a draw from Galway Mayo and Roscommon but I got all three wrong lol.
I hope I will get to see next weeks game all going well.
I am a good paying supporter of Cavan and I hate to see them losing like many that pay to go to see them play.
The best of luck next week and for the remainder of the league.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 25/02/2019 18:04:45    2168098

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Replying To Breffni39:  "The problem is posters keep interacting with these people."
Thank you for your post. As I was not at the match yesterday due to being ill and most of today also. I don't comment on games that I don't see I just logged on to see how things were going with this topic.
My posts are not negative but close to the truth that I am allowed to go by HS.
A brilliant win yesterday and long over due. I worry however that it took the sending off of the Roscommon player for Cavan to take the reins.
I worry about this for this will not happen for every game. So have we learnt anything I am not sure but I hope they go on and take 3 more points for I feel 5 points will keep them safe.
Will Tyrone lay down I fear not
Will Monaghan lay down I fear not
Will they get change from Dublin no chance.
So unfortunately I fear we lost the chance to remain in Division one by losing against Mayo and Galway.
There will be loads of positives from this

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 25/02/2019 18:48:32    2168111

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Replying To Breffni39:  "The problem is posters keep interacting with these people."
Thank you for your post. As I was not at the match yesterday due to being ill and today also. I don't comment on games that I don't see.
I just logged on to see how things were going with this topic.
My posts are not negative but close to the truth that I am allowed to go by HS.
A brilliant win yesterday and long overdue. I worry however that it took the sending off of the Roscommon player for Cavan to take the reins but I will not use it as an excuse for as I said I did not see the game.
I worry about this for this will not happen for every game. So have we learnt anything I am not sure but I hope they go on and take 3 more points for I feel 5 points will keep them safe.
Will Tyrone lay down I fear not
Will Monaghan lay down I fear not but I feel this is a must win game for both teams.
Will they get change from Dublin no chance.
So unfortunately I fear we lost the chance to remain in Division one by losing against Mayo and Galway.
There will be loads of positives from this off course and the players will feel a new spring in their steps and long may it continue.
At the start of the league I predicted a draw from Galway Mayo and Roscommon but I got all three wrong lol.
I hope I will get to see next weeks game all going well.
I am a good paying supporter of Cavan and I hate to see them losing like many that pay to go to see them play.
The best of luck next week and for the remainder of the league.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 25/02/2019 18:50:01    2168113

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Replying To Breffni39:  "The problem is posters keep interacting with these people."
Thank you for your post. As I was not at the match yesterday due to being ill and today also. I don't comment on games that I don't see.
I just logged on to see how things were going with this topic.
My posts are not negative but close to the truth that I am allowed to go by HS.
A brilliant win yesterday and long overdue. I worry however that it took the sending off of the Roscommon player for Cavan to take the reins but I will not use it as an excuse for as I said I did not see the game.
I worry about this for this will not happen for every game. So have we learnt anything I am not sure but I hope they go on and take 3 more points for I feel 5 points will keep them safe.
Will Tyrone lay down I fear not
Will Monaghan lay down I fear not but I feel this is a must win game for both teams.
Will they get change from Dublin no chance.
So unfortunately I fear we lost the chance to remain in Division one by losing against Mayo and Galway.
There will be loads of positives from this off course and the players will feel a new spring in their steps and long may it continue.
At the start of the league I predicted a draw from Galway Mayo and Roscommon but I got all three wrong lol.
I hope I will get to see next weeks game all going well.
I am a good paying supporter of Cavan and I hate to see them losing.
The best of luck next week and for the remainder of the league.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 25/02/2019 19:03:16    2168116

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Replying To Breffni39:  "The problem is posters keep interacting with these people."
Thank you for your post. As I was not at the match yesterday due to being ill and today also. I don't comment on games that I don't see.
I just logged on to see how things were going with this topic.
My posts are not negative but close to the truth that I am allowed to go by HS.
A brilliant win yesterday and long overdue. I worry however that it took the sending off of the Roscommon player for Cavan to take the reins but I will not use it as an excuse for as I said I did not see the game. .
There will be loads of positives from this off course and the players will feel a new spring in their steps and long may it continue.
At the start of the league I predicted a draw from Galway Mayo and Roscommon but I got all three wrong lol.
I hope I will get to see next weeks game all going well.
I am a good paying supporter of Cavan and I hate to see them losing unlike many of the high stool posters on here.
The best of luck next week and for the remainder of the league.
I had to edit this post as HG would not post my original post as is the norm when one is border line with their reply. Off course it dose not apply to all ????. STRANGE.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 25/02/2019 19:27:11    2168126

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Replying To fredflint:  "There is a few on here have nothing to say when there is a good performance and fill up pages with negative stuff when we lose. You'd have to wonder about the mentality of such people. Yesterday was a very good performance and plenty to improve on. Killian was massive at midfield, moynagh was excellent, mcvitty pulled the strings, Niall Murray had a super game and Madden got two brilliant goals. At least we know we belong in Div 1 when we can give a drubbing to a decent team like Roscommon (Super 8 team from last yr). Brilliant to see Gerry Smith back on the field - really looking forward t o seeing him get up to speed.

Now lets take the bit of momentum up to Omagh next week and see what we can do."
We'll know we're a division one team IF we don't get relegated. It's literally that simple.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 406 - 25/02/2019 19:42:52    2168130

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "Thank you for your post. As I was not at the match yesterday due to being ill and today also. I don't comment on games that I don't see.
I just logged on to see how things were going with this topic.
My posts are not negative but close to the truth that I am allowed to go by HS.
A brilliant win yesterday and long overdue. I worry however that it took the sending off of the Roscommon player for Cavan to take the reins but I will not use it as an excuse for as I said I did not see the game. .
There will be loads of positives from this off course and the players will feel a new spring in their steps and long may it continue.
At the start of the league I predicted a draw from Galway Mayo and Roscommon but I got all three wrong lol.
I hope I will get to see next weeks game all going well.
I am a good paying supporter of Cavan and I hate to see them losing unlike many of the high stool posters on here.
The best of luck next week and for the remainder of the league.
I had to edit this post as HG would not post my original post as is the norm when one is border line with their reply. Off course it dose not apply to all ????. STRANGE."
That's twice you said that...

Benjy1000 (Cavan) - Posts: 80 - 25/02/2019 19:52:48    2168135

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "Thank you for your post. As I was not at the match yesterday due to being ill and today also. I don't comment on games that I don't see.
I just logged on to see how things were going with this topic.
My posts are not negative but close to the truth that I am allowed to go by HS.
A brilliant win yesterday and long overdue. I worry however that it took the sending off of the Roscommon player for Cavan to take the reins but I will not use it as an excuse for as I said I did not see the game. .
There will be loads of positives from this off course and the players will feel a new spring in their steps and long may it continue.
At the start of the league I predicted a draw from Galway Mayo and Roscommon but I got all three wrong lol.
I hope I will get to see next weeks game all going well.
I am a good paying supporter of Cavan and I hate to see them losing unlike many of the high stool posters on here.
The best of luck next week and for the remainder of the league.
I had to edit this post as HG would not post my original post as is the norm when one is border line with their reply. Off course it dose not apply to all ????. STRANGE."
And still negative with plenty to say and you not even at the game.

theham (Cavan) - Posts: 91 - 25/02/2019 20:56:38    2168155

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Replying To Benjy1000:  "That's twice you said that..."
5 times

IamADragon (Cavan) - Posts: 269 - 25/02/2019 21:32:16    2168176

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And still negative with plenty to say and you not even at the game.
theham (Cavan) - Posts: 55 - 2/25/19 8:56:38 PM 2168155

You will not wind me up ham I live 500 meters from Breifni Park but due to my circumstances many times I am hardly able to leave the house. I will excuse your ignorance.
I stated I was not at the match and was not going to make a comment on it which I did not.
Delighted with the win off course disappointed I missed it so next up Tyrone Enjoy. Logging out now see you in Omagh.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 25/02/2019 22:23:53    2168197

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Fair play to the lads at the weekend. Conor Madden showed up like I hoped he would.

Disappointing however that Padraig Faulkner did not get his goal to make my pre match prediction totally bulletproof.

It would have certainly been closer were it not for the sending off and even thought it would be argued by some, I am not in doubt that we were the better team over the 60 and would have come out on top on the day if it stayed 15 v 15.

Having seen what they did to Mayo, I will be sticking with my prediction that we'll get nothing from the Dubs.

I'm not sure if anyone can confirm how likely we are to stay up if we come away with a loss to Tyrone & Dublin and beat Monaghan to finish on 4 points?

As a gambling man, I would say that the above is the most likely finish. But we could come away with 6 points or 2 points either.

Movement of the forward unit and ability to create scoring chances was a huge positive and improvement Sunday and fair play for Mickey for implementing that without bringing defensive chaos with it in return. Good few wides but when you still win having kicked too many wides, I would see that as a positive of sorts.

Hopefully an improving Gerry Smith, Gearoid and Caomhin will add to this mix well. I would leave the team fairly similar over the next few games unless these men are 95% at least, maybe 85% for Gearoid against Monaghan if he was available.

One point for improvement would still be our full forward line I would feel.

In spite of Madden's goals, it is still lacking bit of danger, size, consistent scorers and ball winners. These men obviously cant be pulled from fresh air but we probably still look short of options there on the starting line up and in the subs as well. I would see Pierce Smith as more of a half forward, and a potentially brilliant one for us. And Caomhin has been out for a long time so it would be unlikely for him to come back a man on fire I would think.

PatTheDandy (Cavan) - Posts: 282 - 26/02/2019 09:27:44    2168241

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Replying To PatTheDandy:  "Fair play to the lads at the weekend. Conor Madden showed up like I hoped he would.

Disappointing however that Padraig Faulkner did not get his goal to make my pre match prediction totally bulletproof.

It would have certainly been closer were it not for the sending off and even thought it would be argued by some, I am not in doubt that we were the better team over the 60 and would have come out on top on the day if it stayed 15 v 15.

Having seen what they did to Mayo, I will be sticking with my prediction that we'll get nothing from the Dubs.

I'm not sure if anyone can confirm how likely we are to stay up if we come away with a loss to Tyrone & Dublin and beat Monaghan to finish on 4 points?

As a gambling man, I would say that the above is the most likely finish. But we could come away with 6 points or 2 points either.

Movement of the forward unit and ability to create scoring chances was a huge positive and improvement Sunday and fair play for Mickey for implementing that without bringing defensive chaos with it in return. Good few wides but when you still win having kicked too many wides, I would see that as a positive of sorts.

Hopefully an improving Gerry Smith, Gearoid and Caomhin will add to this mix well. I would leave the team fairly similar over the next few games unless these men are 95% at least, maybe 85% for Gearoid against Monaghan if he was available.

One point for improvement would still be our full forward line I would feel.

In spite of Madden's goals, it is still lacking bit of danger, size, consistent scorers and ball winners. These men obviously cant be pulled from fresh air but we probably still look short of options there on the starting line up and in the subs as well. I would see Pierce Smith as more of a half forward, and a potentially brilliant one for us. And Caomhin has been out for a long time so it would be unlikely for him to come back a man on fire I would think."
Caomhin is no longer on the panel.

BootIt (Cavan) - Posts: 136 - 26/02/2019 10:20:52    2168262

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Replying To PatTheDandy:  "Fair play to the lads at the weekend. Conor Madden showed up like I hoped he would.

Disappointing however that Padraig Faulkner did not get his goal to make my pre match prediction totally bulletproof.

It would have certainly been closer were it not for the sending off and even thought it would be argued by some, I am not in doubt that we were the better team over the 60 and would have come out on top on the day if it stayed 15 v 15.

Having seen what they did to Mayo, I will be sticking with my prediction that we'll get nothing from the Dubs.

I'm not sure if anyone can confirm how likely we are to stay up if we come away with a loss to Tyrone & Dublin and beat Monaghan to finish on 4 points?

As a gambling man, I would say that the above is the most likely finish. But we could come away with 6 points or 2 points either.

Movement of the forward unit and ability to create scoring chances was a huge positive and improvement Sunday and fair play for Mickey for implementing that without bringing defensive chaos with it in return. Good few wides but when you still win having kicked too many wides, I would see that as a positive of sorts.

Hopefully an improving Gerry Smith, Gearoid and Caomhin will add to this mix well. I would leave the team fairly similar over the next few games unless these men are 95% at least, maybe 85% for Gearoid against Monaghan if he was available.

One point for improvement would still be our full forward line I would feel.

In spite of Madden's goals, it is still lacking bit of danger, size, consistent scorers and ball winners. These men obviously cant be pulled from fresh air but we probably still look short of options there on the starting line up and in the subs as well. I would see Pierce Smith as more of a half forward, and a potentially brilliant one for us. And Caomhin has been out for a long time so it would be unlikely for him to come back a man on fire I would think."
Regarding 4 points it is possible to stay up on 4

Roscommon have the following games left

Dublin (H)
Galway (A)
Kerry (H)

Monaghan have the following games
Kerry (A)
Cavan (H)
Mayo(A)

If Ros lose all 3 game, which is not a stretch, or even just get a draw from one of them, they would be on 4 points

Assuming we beat Monaghan to get to 4 points and they lose to Kerry and Mayo, they would finish on 2 points.

If Cavan and Ros finish on 4 points it would go to the head to head which we have the best on. If Monaghan would get to 4 points along with us, it could go to the head to head too so our game with them is critical. If 3 teams are on 4 points it will go on scoring difference. We are current -1, Monaghan -6 and Ros -8. So that is tight enough.

In summary we could have a chance to stay up with 4, 5 I think would increase our chances. Big risks as I see it is the last round of games we will almost certainly lose to Dublin but will Mayo and Kerry be already safe and not too bothered about winning the last games?

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1333 - 26/02/2019 10:26:19    2168263

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