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Best of luck to Mickey Graham and his backroom team (details of which I am not sure about, so if anyone knows who is in with Graham, please post).
What are your thoughts on our new manager?
I'm a bit underwhelmed to be honest, but look, no big name wanted the job it seems, which shows we're not rated as a county with any potential. It's up to the new manager to change that.
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Replying To Cavan_Shambles: "Best of luck to Mickey Graham and his backroom team (details of which I am not sure about, so if anyone knows who is in with Graham, please post).
What are your thoughts on our new manager?
I'm a bit underwhelmed to be honest, but look, no big name wanted the job it seems, which shows we're not rated as a county with any potential. It's up to the new manager to change that." Dermot McCabe and Martin Corey.
doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 19/08/2018 15:06:15
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We have finally reached the depths of despair. We go with the cheapest option possible end of. How could anybody have any faith in this selection of management. At least in leitrim they are happy as they have terry with some pedigree and best of luck to him. A wise choice on their behalf. What have we. Probably worse than we had. Division3 within 2 years unless we can get rid of this management team next year.
cavanforsam (Cavan) - Posts: 143 - 19/08/2018 21:03:37
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Replying To cavanforsam: "We have finally reached the depths of despair. We go with the cheapest option possible end of. How could anybody have any faith in this selection of management. At least in leitrim they are happy as they have terry with some pedigree and best of luck to him. A wise choice on their behalf. What have we. Probably worse than we had. Division3 within 2 years unless we can get rid of this management team next year." Give them a chance. Ridiculous to be this negative at it not even ratified.
doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 19/08/2018 21:05:59
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Replying To cavanforsam: "We have finally reached the depths of despair. We go with the cheapest option possible end of. How could anybody have any faith in this selection of management. At least in leitrim they are happy as they have terry with some pedigree and best of luck to him. A wise choice on their behalf. What have we. Probably worse than we had. Division3 within 2 years unless we can get rid of this management team next year." The depths of despair? I'd regard having Val Andrews as manager and a very poor panel of players that required a favour from Tipperary in the last round to avoid relegation to Division 4 as a bit worse than our current situation, personally.
To anyone whinging about Graham, who would you have appointed? Heavyweight managers weren't begging for the job. I dont know much about Graham but he's fairly young and an inside man, which seems like a common theme among most successful counties these days. Dublin, Galway, Mayo, Donegal in football and Limerick, Galway, Waterford in the hurling for example. Would rather take a chance on him than some journeyman outsider. The O Rourke Poacher McGurn ticket had a whiff of snakeoil about it.
Graham has the best interests of Cavan football at heart I'm sure and will be a BS free zone, which will be a blessing after the last 2 years. Important to get the backroom right though.
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i am glad that the new manager is looking to bring in some fresh talent and will not be begging any of the pre 2018 panel members to come back. If players don't have a desire to play for the county then they are better off staying away.
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Don't know where you are getting your information from but with whats there now you will have nothing but BS
cavanexile11 (Dublin) - Posts: 25 - 22/08/2018 13:06:14
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Ah give him a chance lads....a win or 2 in McKenna cup and yee will be all on bleating about how the future is blue, All Ireland contenders ba ba ba
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Replying To FarneyheadFarneyheart: "Ah give him a chance lads....a win or 2 in McKenna cup and yee will be all on bleating about how the future is blue, All Ireland contenders ba ba ba" I hope they use the stupid McKenna cup competition for the purpose of blooding new lads nothing else.
Yes Mickey should get a chance for sure after the league we should have a fair idea what direction Cavan are going.
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 22/08/2018 22:26:50
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Mickey won an Ulster Senior Championship medal with Cavan in 1997 under one of our best managers. He also won a number of Cavan Senior Championship medals playing under some good managers, he managed under age county teams and most recently managed a club team in Longford to two senior championship wins, something that Mullineaghta hadn't done in years. Terry won a few ulster u21 titles and a Cavan Intermediate title, yet his appointment as senior manager was viewed as an excellent appointment.
Mickey's view on football hasn't changed from when he won an Ulster Title, scores win games, attacking football gets scores, so if anything, he will have Cavan playing a brand of football that the players and supporters will enjoy. It wont be easy and he needs to be given time. At the moment, all the other division one teams are superior to us. Its not Mickeys fault, its not Matties fault and its not Terrys fault, the fact is, we simply lacking in quality footballers, we have some fine footballers, they work and train hard, but we simply do not have what it takes to compete against the top teams. I think the sooner people realise that, they'll lower their expectations. I've been to a number of championship matches at all levels over the last few weeks, and you simply would not pick out a quality county footballer.
It will take time, but not just time at senior level, there needs to be a complete overhaul at underage level two. The Frank Murphy's in the County Board and clubs around the County need to get their heads out of the sand and stop looking back at the past. We need a vision for the future, young players are getting fed up, theyre quitting football, clubs need to start looking at themselves, many clubs have no futures and need to start thinking whats next, parish amalgamations or risk going under, its the reality, look at the amount of underage amalgamations, they're growing, growing because club numbers are decreasing, look at the u15 & 17 fixtures, look at the amount of games being conceded......
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Replying To cavanblueman: "Mickey won an Ulster Senior Championship medal with Cavan in 1997 under one of our best managers. He also won a number of Cavan Senior Championship medals playing under some good managers, he managed under age county teams and most recently managed a club team in Longford to two senior championship wins, something that Mullineaghta hadn't done in years. Terry won a few ulster u21 titles and a Cavan Intermediate title, yet his appointment as senior manager was viewed as an excellent appointment.
Mickey's view on football hasn't changed from when he won an Ulster Title, scores win games, attacking football gets scores, so if anything, he will have Cavan playing a brand of football that the players and supporters will enjoy. It wont be easy and he needs to be given time. At the moment, all the other division one teams are superior to us. Its not Mickeys fault, its not Matties fault and its not Terrys fault, the fact is, we simply lacking in quality footballers, we have some fine footballers, they work and train hard, but we simply do not have what it takes to compete against the top teams. I think the sooner people realise that, they'll lower their expectations. I've been to a number of championship matches at all levels over the last few weeks, and you simply would not pick out a quality county footballer.
It will take time, but not just time at senior level, there needs to be a complete overhaul at underage level two. The Frank Murphy's in the County Board and clubs around the County need to get their heads out of the sand and stop looking back at the past. We need a vision for the future, young players are getting fed up, theyre quitting football, clubs need to start looking at themselves, many clubs have no futures and need to start thinking whats next, parish amalgamations or risk going under, its the reality, look at the amount of underage amalgamations, they're growing, growing because club numbers are decreasing, look at the u15 & 17 fixtures, look at the amount of games being conceded......" Quick 2 questions for you.
You failed to mention Mickey managing the Gaels.
He had the best of club players st his disposal but failed miserable as Gaels manager. What went wrong there?
Secondly we beat Donegal and Tyrone at underage level on the way to winning u21 titles . These teams have contested All Ireland's since . So what's gone wrong with our players,?
I await your 2 answers.
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Replying To Inaroundehouse: "Quick 2 questions for you.
You failed to mention Mickey managing the Gaels.
He had the best of club players st his disposal but failed miserable as Gaels manager. What went wrong there?
Secondly we beat Donegal and Tyrone at underage level on the way to winning u21 titles . These teams have contested All Ireland's since . So what's gone wrong with our players,?
I await your 2 answers." I noticed he omitted Mickey's stint at the gaels but when you have player power you have no chance and sadly I feel the gaels will not be queuing to support him at Inter County level either but I expect it will be more to do with the back-room more so than Mickey.
Look all we can do is wish him well wait until the conclusion of the league and then make comments on how well things are going or not. It would be nice to see him succeed.
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 23/08/2018 16:45:41
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Replying To cavanblueman: "Mickey won an Ulster Senior Championship medal with Cavan in 1997 under one of our best managers. He also won a number of Cavan Senior Championship medals playing under some good managers, he managed under age county teams and most recently managed a club team in Longford to two senior championship wins, something that Mullineaghta hadn't done in years. Terry won a few ulster u21 titles and a Cavan Intermediate title, yet his appointment as senior manager was viewed as an excellent appointment.
Mickey's view on football hasn't changed from when he won an Ulster Title, scores win games, attacking football gets scores, so if anything, he will have Cavan playing a brand of football that the players and supporters will enjoy. It wont be easy and he needs to be given time. At the moment, all the other division one teams are superior to us. Its not Mickeys fault, its not Matties fault and its not Terrys fault, the fact is, we simply lacking in quality footballers, we have some fine footballers, they work and train hard, but we simply do not have what it takes to compete against the top teams. I think the sooner people realise that, they'll lower their expectations. I've been to a number of championship matches at all levels over the last few weeks, and you simply would not pick out a quality county footballer.
It will take time, but not just time at senior level, there needs to be a complete overhaul at underage level two. The Frank Murphy's in the County Board and clubs around the County need to get their heads out of the sand and stop looking back at the past. We need a vision for the future, young players are getting fed up, theyre quitting football, clubs need to start looking at themselves, many clubs have no futures and need to start thinking whats next, parish amalgamations or risk going under, its the reality, look at the amount of underage amalgamations, they're growing, growing because club numbers are decreasing, look at the u15 & 17 fixtures, look at the amount of games being conceded......" I'd think your view on players standing out is like your assessment of g Mac and k Clarke, lots of quality players standing out.
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Replying To blueman1903: "I'd think your view on players standing out is like your assessment of g Mac and k Clarke, lots of quality players standing out." Have to agree with you there has been many standing out over the lat 8 or so years but they don't get called in and if they do they are put through the conveyer belt. It's a means of saying we tried them but were not up to standard. I spoke with many and they never even got approached by anyone.
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 23/08/2018 17:27:02
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Replying To The Quiet Man: "I noticed he omitted Mickey's stint at the gaels but when you have player power you have no chance and sadly I feel the gaels will not be queuing to support him at Inter County level either but I expect it will be more to do with the back-room more so than Mickey.
Look all we can do is wish him well wait until the conclusion of the league and then make comments on how well things are going or not. It would be nice to see him succeed." Well if that's their attitude to this great gaa county they should stay away. Basic requirement for manager and supporters is men dedicated with passion to the cause.
fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1333 - 23/08/2018 18:50:40
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Replying To The Quiet Man: "Have to agree with you there has been many standing out over the lat 8 or so years but they don't get called in and if they do they are put through the conveyer belt. It's a means of saying we tried them but were not up to standard. I spoke with many and they never even got approached by anyone." Like who Sean. You're in a position now where you can speak frankly.
doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 23/08/2018 19:28:28
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Replying To doratheexplorer: "Like who Sean. You're in a position now where you can speak frankly." No intentions of going down that road now for it's past. We will see come November if the new management will carry on the tradition of ignoring players that stand out either because of who they are or the club they represent. Be it Drumalee Maghera Arva Drumlane Templeport Redhills Swan ect. Micky will have to be firm if he is the stand alone manager but time will tell us come the fourth match in the national league 2019.
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 23/08/2018 22:20:53
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Replying To The Quiet Man: "No intentions of going down that road now for it's past. We will see come November if the new management will carry on the tradition of ignoring players that stand out either because of who they are or the club they represent. Be it Drumalee Maghera Arva Drumlane Templeport Redhills Swan ect. Micky will have to be firm if he is the stand alone manager but time will tell us come the fourth match in the national league 2019." Didn't take you long to change your tune. You said previously it was very unfair to judge McGleenon until after his second season. But Mickey only gets 4 games?
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Replying To JamsieMac: "Didn't take you long to change your tune. You said previously it was very unfair to judge McGleenon until after his second season. But Mickey only gets 4 games?" Where have you read that I have given Micky 4 months???
He has taken over a team that were brought back to Division 1 and this is only August so unlike Mattie who came in the middle of November 2016 he will be able to see what is available out there and also his selector D. McCabe will have seen these lads coming through the system for after all he was in with Gary Donohoe so should have a huge head start on strangers taking up the post. I hope the county board give them 2 years no more and if they fail get rid of them. They gave Mattie 20 months. He left Cavan as he got them in Division 1TRUE.
Micky has my full support he is a towny after all so why not.
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 24/08/2018 09:44:21
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Seems like the vultures are circling Mickey Graham in his first week as manager.
My god.
Reformation (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 24/08/2018 10:44:35
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