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Replying To Cutler:  "When did SJ do all what your saying he is good at. Definitely not in the Tyrone game. Great at passing over and back ways."
SJ has been playing since 2004. Not 1 forward from any u21 side would lace his boots.
He can still do a job mainly because he's aware of what's going on around him.Tell me about all the help he had against Tyrone?
Tell me about all the inside forwards who were making runs for a pass?
Better still tell me about the forwards who know what they are at?
It don't say much for or so called relent when wevrelying on a 34 yr old does it?

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 12/07/2018 16:44:01    2121066

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "SJ has been playing since 2004. Not 1 forward from any u21 side would lace his boots.
He can still do a job mainly because he's aware of what's going on around him.Tell me about all the help he had against Tyrone?
Tell me about all the inside forwards who were making runs for a pass?
Better still tell me about the forwards who know what they are at?
It don't say much for or so called relent when wevrelying on a 34 yr old does it?"
Maybe you should call up SJ and declare your manlove deanmartintynan

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1333 - 12/07/2018 18:28:55    2121094

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Replying To Cutler:  "When did SJ do all what your saying he is good at. Definitely not in the Tyrone game. Great at passing over and back ways."
You've a short memory Cutler. The man was on fire in 2013. Remember that point from the sideline against Tyrone? Magic.

Skelling (USA) - Posts: 288 - 12/07/2018 20:47:10    2121130

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It was the right decision for him to go. I don't think he ever expected to get the Cavan job in the first place.

A lot of managers turned down the Cavan job 2 years ago. Whether it's anymore appealing now is questionable. But they have plenty of time to asses their options.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2216 - 12/07/2018 20:50:32    2121133

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "SJ has been playing since 2004. Not 1 forward from any u21 side would lace his boots.
He can still do a job mainly because he's aware of what's going on around him.Tell me about all the help he had against Tyrone?
Tell me about all the inside forwards who were making runs for a pass?
Better still tell me about the forwards who know what they are at?
It don't say much for or so called relent when wevrelying on a 34 yr old does it?"
Not one U21 forward would lace his boots?? I dare say that's some insult to the likes of Gearoid McKiernan and McVeety

JamsieMac (Cavan) - Posts: 425 - 12/07/2018 21:34:09    2121151

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i think cavan need a cavan man as manager. dont go near pete mcgrath or colin kelly anyway lads. i would have thought cavan were in a great place having won 4 u-21 ulsters in a row and i think a minor somewhere. jesus meath havent won an u-21 leinster since 2001 and no minor since 2008. Cavan football people talk themselves down far too much, they seem to talk themselves into decline. this is a very good cavan team and mangers should be queing up for the job. as a meath man id love to see cavan do well, granted i live a long way from cavan border near Kinnegad, but i think its very dangerous to down talk your county. i could see this happening in meath this year and lucky enough we put in a good display against tyrone and the meath ego was rubbed again. Basically you need a little bit of arrogance too. never down play yourselves , you are the aristocrats of ulster football. take a look at the way Down football people are. Cavan are way more successfull.

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 532 - 12/07/2018 21:53:38    2121156

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "Off course the players are there but the majority of the good players were not even asked in and the ones that turned down the call in were not available due to work commitment. Time the CB listened to people that are not blinkered by club loyalty and bring in the best players and not those that certain people think are the greatest thing since slice pan."
Where are these players you state we have that aren't invited in. There nothing worth mentioning that not already there. Back up your statement with names.

Jim_Shorts (Cavan) - Posts: 92 - 12/07/2018 22:14:39    2121164

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Replying To JamsieMac:  "Not one U21 forward would lace his boots?? I dare say that's some insult to the likes of Gearoid McKiernan and McVeety"
Totally different types of players. Neither is an out and out forward.

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 13/07/2018 13:00:01    2121309

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "Totally different types of players. Neither is an out and out forward."
Moderator won't let me get a word in on any forum but alas I'll try again. Perhaps I need to change my username.
How would we know if there was a new inside forward as we haven't played a ball inside to them in 2 years of championship football. You didn't say inside forward either as you were putting your hero on a high pedestal. After all he wasn't holding a place on an average Kildare forward line at the peak of his ability

JamsieMac (Cavan) - Posts: 425 - 13/07/2018 18:39:27    2121417

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Back to familiar territory, who to appoint as manager. None of those mentioned so far would inspire confidence. We need a top class proven manager to get the best out of our u21's before they go past their sell by date. It's about timing. Too early for the locals mentioned who haven't achieved enough to warrant this job. Too late for the likes of Pete McGrath who might have been the right man five years ago.

I'd love to have weeman McHugh back with the same energy and enthusiasm he had when with us last. We were blessed to have him, but alas by his own admission, the job burned him out. So there's a clue in that. Who has the energy and ambition together with proven ability and is available and willing to take on the Cavan job? Not too many spring to mind. McEntee from Cross is possibly close to the calibre but I find him very volatile which off course can stifle your judgment, especially during games. The same could be said of Andy McEntee at Meath even though he is likely to be retained by Meath.

Not an easy task for the CB. We definitely don't want another wannabee manager, making it up as he goes along and hoping that his hard work will get him there.

Dare I say it, we may have to settle for a Val Andrews type manager. Someone who has been successful at third level and has the hunger to take on a county with potential, which I believe we are. Does this bring John Divilly of UCD into the equation?

ondforty (Cavan) - Posts: 442 - 13/07/2018 19:46:48    2121425

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Peter canavan is available and wants the job.

GallantJohnJoe (Cavan) - Posts: 310 - 13/07/2018 23:42:31    2121472

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Replying To ondforty:  "Back to familiar territory, who to appoint as manager. None of those mentioned so far would inspire confidence. We need a top class proven manager to get the best out of our u21's before they go past their sell by date. It's about timing. Too early for the locals mentioned who haven't achieved enough to warrant this job. Too late for the likes of Pete McGrath who might have been the right man five years ago.

I'd love to have weeman McHugh back with the same energy and enthusiasm he had when with us last. We were blessed to have him, but alas by his own admission, the job burned him out. So there's a clue in that. Who has the energy and ambition together with proven ability and is available and willing to take on the Cavan job? Not too many spring to mind. McEntee from Cross is possibly close to the calibre but I find him very volatile which off course can stifle your judgment, especially during games. The same could be said of Andy McEntee at Meath even though he is likely to be retained by Meath.

Not an easy task for the CB. We definitely don't want another wannabee manager, making it up as he goes along and hoping that his hard work will get him there.

Dare I say it, we may have to settle for a Val Andrews type manager. Someone who has been successful at third level and has the hunger to take on a county with potential, which I believe we are. Does this bring John Divilly of UCD into the equation?"
What planet are you on?
The McHugh of 20 years ago is definitely different to the McHugh of the present.
Couldn't even manage his own Club Kilcar to any success despite a star studed family line up.
Now your bringing up names like John Divilly OMG. You spoke to anyone at UCD?
And Andy McEntee?? The guy that's doing such a great job in Meath?
That reminds me of the time we hired TC after he sunk Roscommon football.

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 14/07/2018 09:05:56    2121494

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Replying To Jim_Shorts:  "Where are these players you state we have that aren't invited in. There nothing worth mentioning that not already there. Back up your statement with names."
Not hard to back up statements with names but no point at this time of the year for they were ignored for the last two years. Lets see what the championship produces this year and then I am sure there will be 20 better than what we have in all ready given the chance. Here are a few Completely ignored this year by the management Brady Brady McEnroe McGlade McGlade Sheridan Dunne Dunne Dillion Reilly Meehan Masterson Kiernan Argue Cullivan a few were tried but not given match time. You work on strength and weakneses. Presently players are carried despite the fact they are malingerers, they don't want to put in the effort and they get away with it. I am sure it's the same at their clubs. I can name many more that are worth a try.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 14/07/2018 12:11:25    2121534

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Replying To GallantJohnJoe:  "Peter canavan is available and wants the job."
I saw this man in action I'm afraid he would cost the CB more on fines for he was very ill disciplined we don't need him.

Look why not give Donal Keogan a second chance I am sure he would bring in a decent man beside him. He would not cost too much and one thing he has is B***s. I know he is not everyones cup of tea but what can we do. I don't think he has a lot but what he brings in beside him might make the difference. Off all the back room staff I hope the new manager keeps Jim Cribbins on board but let the rest go they have nothing to offer.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 14/07/2018 12:24:48    2121538

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "I saw this man in action I'm afraid he would cost the CB more on fines for he was very ill disciplined we don't need him.

Look why not give Donal Keogan a second chance I am sure he would bring in a decent man beside him. He would not cost too much and one thing he has is B***s. I know he is not everyones cup of tea but what can we do. I don't think he has a lot but what he brings in beside him might make the difference. Off all the back room staff I hope the new manager keeps Jim Cribbins on board but let the rest go they have nothing to offer."
Wouldn't be gone on Canavan. Wouldn't be gone on Keoghan either and it would probably be a double act with Forde. Someone suggested the last time Banty for the job and I thought it was a bit daft but in hindsight it wouldn't be the worst choice and maybe a safe pair of hands. They'd be organised and fired up at least. Pete McGrath had a poor few years but I still think there would be a turn in him. After that you're gambling. Cannot see a big name wanting the job. Maybe another gamble on a young coach. If we went that route we might as well keep it local. Peter Reilly maybe or Jason. Mickey Graham would have credentials too.

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 14/07/2018 14:10:52    2121564

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "What planet are you on?
The McHugh of 20 years ago is definitely different to the McHugh of the present.
Couldn't even manage his own Club Kilcar to any success despite a star studed family line up.
Now your bringing up names like John Divilly OMG. You spoke to anyone at UCD?
And Andy McEntee?? The guy that's doing such a great job in Meath?
That reminds me of the time we hired TC after he sunk Roscommon football."
Inaroundthehouse, I had to tone down my reply to you to get past the moderator so perhaps you'd read this post properly.

I actually made the point that we were blessed to have the McHugh of old and the current version was spent, by his own admission. I wasn't suggesting he should be reappointed. A modern version with his football ability and infectious approach would be nice.

I wasn't suggesting either of the two McEntees. I pointed out that they were both unsuitable due mainly to their volatility.

Finally, I mentioned Divilly because he has been successful working with county players at Sigerson level with UCD, so he fits the Val Andrews type manager that I feel worked well for us in the past. Thats my opinion and others will naturally disagree. I felt that Val the second time around was poorly treated but that's for a different thread perhaps. In any case, there are several Divilly types of Managers around who
may also fit the bill. I watched him up closely over the past two years and I found him progressive. There are as many people at UCD would would recommend him as there are those who wouldn't. That's the case with most potential candidates I would imagine.

ondforty (Cavan) - Posts: 442 - 14/07/2018 14:30:52    2121570

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Replying To ondforty:  "Inaroundthehouse, I had to tone down my reply to you to get past the moderator so perhaps you'd read this post properly.

I actually made the point that we were blessed to have the McHugh of old and the current version was spent, by his own admission. I wasn't suggesting he should be reappointed. A modern version with his football ability and infectious approach would be nice.

I wasn't suggesting either of the two McEntees. I pointed out that they were both unsuitable due mainly to their volatility.

Finally, I mentioned Divilly because he has been successful working with county players at Sigerson level with UCD, so he fits the Val Andrews type manager that I feel worked well for us in the past. Thats my opinion and others will naturally disagree. I felt that Val the second time around was poorly treated but that's for a different thread perhaps. In any case, there are several Divilly types of Managers around who
may also fit the bill. I watched him up closely over the past two years and I found him progressive. There are as many people at UCD would would recommend him as there are those who wouldn't. That's the case with most potential candidates I would imagine."
You are lucky it would seem my posts are just binned. I will not lick up to anyone and if the truth hurts so be it.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 17/07/2018 09:53:12    2123011

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Shouldn't the co.board be trying to get someone in ASAP? In order to watch the club championship in the event of an outsider?

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 406 - 17/07/2018 16:23:20    2123210

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Replying To Cavan_Shambles:  "Shouldn't the co.board be trying to get someone in ASAP? In order to watch the club championship in the event of an outsider?"
It would be safe to say they all ready have their own people lined up this has been our downfall for years without consultation with the clubs. I would say it will be joint local managers when we need a man with a back bone a no nonsense man who will not allow player dictatorship. It's that simple.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 17/07/2018 17:21:02    2123234

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "It would be safe to say they all ready have their own people lined up this has been our downfall for years without consultation with the clubs. I would say it will be joint local managers when we need a man with a back bone a no nonsense man who will not allow player dictatorship. It's that simple."
There are not two living in the county of Cavan to match the previous managements CV's I would go as far as to say even a combined total from any six.
These people arrived late we got relegated the following year they bring us back to division 1 that to me was an excellent achievement with the players that were available to them.
Sadly division 2 beckon's after 2019 and it would be safe to say Cavan will find it very difficult to get back to the top tier again for a very long time.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4565 - 18/07/2018 11:28:36    2123434

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