Replying To EastCavan: "Can gowna put in the same performance again vs the gaels? i dont think so. Just noticed Ramor in crosskeys for the 4th game in a row??" What performance exactly are you talking about, I was at the game and apart from a few individuals they were disappointing over all. They played a poor Ramor team who were down to 14 men from early on and only managed a draw. They'll need to up it big time if they are to trouble the gaels but playing it in a tight narrow pitch like Lacken will help them.
IamADragon (Cavan) - Posts: 269 - 11/09/2018 11:26:10
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Replying To aceofspades: "Too many conspiracy theories on here, if Castlerahan had a person following the Gaels game they would have known from early on that the Gaels were on course for a big win and would finish further up the table than 8th, also if Gowna had beaten Ramor, a game which went to the wire, then there was the possibility of a Castlerahan/Gaels QF.As it is the Gaels are our county champions and are not going to relinquish their title without a fight they knew what they had to do against Lacken, it may have helped their cause with McKiernan getting injured early on and Lacken not wanting to risk more injuries as they had already qualified. If you have ambitions of winning the championship this year the chances are you may have to beat the Gaels on the way to achieve that goal Cootehill while they may feel aggrieved have only themselves to blame, after all they had a similar run as the Gaels & Ramor who also finished on 4 points, all 3 played Castlerahan, Lacken & Killygarry whilst Cootehill played Crosserlough the other two played Gowna. Unfortunately for Cootehill ,with 2 wins, they just didn't do enough in the scoring stakes ." The Gaels inevitable victory aside last Sunday, the results of the other games weren't confirmed until after the final whistle blew in the Castlerahan Ballinagh game...
Below are the full time score tweets from each of the clubs that were actively tweeting the scores throughout the games:
Castlerahan (Ballinagh) 4:20pm Killygarry (Cootehill) 4:20pm Crosserlough (Kingscourt) 4:22pm Ramor (Gowna) 4:28pm Lacken (Cavan Gaels) 4:34pm
lockerocker (Cavan) - Posts: 34 - 11/09/2018 11:31:59
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Replying To aceofspades: "Too many conspiracy theories on here, if Castlerahan had a person following the Gaels game they would have known from early on that the Gaels were on course for a big win and would finish further up the table than 8th, also if Gowna had beaten Ramor, a game which went to the wire, then there was the possibility of a Castlerahan/Gaels QF.As it is the Gaels are our county champions and are not going to relinquish their title without a fight they knew what they had to do against Lacken, it may have helped their cause with McKiernan getting injured early on and Lacken not wanting to risk more injuries as they had already qualified. If you have ambitions of winning the championship this year the chances are you may have to beat the Gaels on the way to achieve that goal Cootehill while they may feel aggrieved have only themselves to blame, after all they had a similar run as the Gaels & Ramor who also finished on 4 points, all 3 played Castlerahan, Lacken & Killygarry whilst Cootehill played Crosserlough the other two played Gowna. Unfortunately for Cootehill ,with 2 wins, they just didn't do enough in the scoring stakes ." Fair enough, point taking. Still doesn't shy away from the fact that Lacken rested lads which they are more entitled to do. Every team in the county would have done the same no doubt. The fact of the matter is, the current format needs to change. Teams are relying on other teams to get results or help them out when they have nothing to play for giving the opposing team a massive advantage.
SwadMan11 (Cavan) - Posts: 50 - 11/09/2018 11:59:20
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Gowna Gaels- Gaels minus kevin meehan jelly niall murray this weekend there could be an upset on the cards. Lavey Lacken- i think lavey will win this. Ramor Crosserlough- should be a good game with ramor just having enough to come through Castlerahan should have enough to overcome kingscourt by 6 or 7.
gowna02 (Cavan) - Posts: 93 - 11/09/2018 12:02:04
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Lavey v Lacken; Hard game to call alot will depend on the fitness of Niall McKiernan and the Galligans. If they are fit Lacken should scrape through. Castlerahan v Kingscourt; Castlerahan will win this. Gowna v Gaels; fancy Cavan Gaels to win but not without a massive battle. Ramor v Crosserlough; Ramor by 2
IFC Bailieborough v Laragh; Laragh will win easily here by 10+ Bridge v Arva; will be nothing in it, bridge without Flanagan for year and arva without Sheridan. Gonna say arva by 2. Belturbet v Mullahoran; another game that's very hard to call. Could be a draw. Cucu v Killeshandra- Easy win for Cuchulainns. Fancy them to put up a big score here.
JFC Denn v Killinkere; Killinkere should have enough to come through here. A lot depends of fitness of thomas edward donohoe he would give Denn a fighting chance but still think KK are too strong. Drumlane v Mountnugent; Drumlane to prevail here by 5.
theDagger1986 (Cavan) - Posts: 178 - 11/09/2018 12:10:54
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Lavey v Lacken - Like others have pointed out a lot depends on the fitness of Lackens key men, if at full strength they win by 3, if not it's too close to call.
Castlerahan v Kingscourt - Since these 2 met in the decider in 2015 Castlerahan have got stronger, mainly due to a lot of new signing from outside the county and Kingscourt have got weaker, mainly due to retirement and injury, Castlerahan by 2.
Gowna v Gaels - Despite Gaels big win against Lacken all may not be going so well for them, they are carrying a few injuries I believe, however their experience should see them through here, Gaels by 3.
Ramor v Crosserlough - Very interesting matchup, Ramor's key man Adrain Cole got injured again last week and with him not at 100% I'm gonna give this to Crosserlough, by 1.
IFC Bailieborough v Laragh - Laragh shouldn't have much bother here, them by 7
Bridge v Arva - Like Laragh, I can't see Arva having much difficulty here, 5 point winners
Belturbet v Mullahoran - Mullahoran haven't been too impressive in the championship so far, Belturbet by 2
Cucuhulainns v Killeshandra - Can't see anything other than a comfortably win for Cuchulainns here, Cucus by 8
JFC Denn v Killinkere - Could well be the final, I'm going for Denn's experience to win out, by 2
Drumlane v Mountnugent - Drumlane by 4
IamADragon (Cavan) - Posts: 269 - 11/09/2018 13:40:05
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Gaels vs Gowna- I think the big win at the weekend will give the Gaels much needed confidence. Neither team will have wanted to play each other again but I think Gaels will get through this with a 3 point win.
Lavey vs Lacken- Depending on Lacken having a full strength team. They were exposed at the weekend when they were missing a few important players. Tight but if Lacken have full strength I think they'll get through with a 1 or 2 point win.
Crosserlough vs Ramor- my tie of the round and I think Crosserlough can get a win here but again very tight-Crosserlough by 1
Castlerahan vs Kingscourt- Kingscourt won't make it easy for them but if Castlerahan are real contenders they should win here by 4 or 5
westcavankid (Cavan) - Posts: 83 - 11/09/2018 13:50:05
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StirringIt , Where did you hear the rumors on Givney ? I heard at the weekend that Mountnugent will have there strongest team out this weekend from the beginning off the championship, but was only from players back from short term injuries , not Givney or Kiernan who hasn't played all year ? Different semi final altogether if they have Givney!!!
cavanman10 (Cavan) - Posts: 78 - 11/09/2018 15:36:04
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Replying To cavanman10: "StirringIt , Where did you hear the rumors on Givney ? I heard at the weekend that Mountnugent will have there strongest team out this weekend from the beginning off the championship, but was only from players back from short term injuries , not Givney or Kiernan who hasn't played all year ? Different semi final altogether if they have Givney!!!" was talking to a lad at the Gerry Reilly final in Oldcastle on Sunday and he was telling me that Mountnugent were flying Givney and another lad home from England for the game. Also said that Kiernan was back.
StirringIt (Cavan) - Posts: 374 - 11/09/2018 15:54:05
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Gaels v Gowna - Gaels by 8. Gowna struggled against 14 men of Ramor and just won't have enough to oust the Gaels. Gaels will know that there are no more second and third chances and I'd imagine they'll take the game by the scruff of the neck. Having said that it would be great to see the young Gowna lads stepping up and taking a scalp. Definitely a strengthening team and ones to watch.
Lacken v Lavey - Draw. Lacken are carrying a couple of knocks and injuries while Lavey are being written off by many it seems. The Lavey lads will be up for it no doubt and I wouldn't be surprised if Lacken struggle. I don't think Lacken have the depth of the other top teams and it could show in the coming weeks. I think Lacken will win the reply or pull through extra time. Does anybody know what happens in the event of a draw?
Ramor v Crosserlough - Croseerlough by 5. Crosserlough on a high I am sure after beating Kingscourt and topping the group. A good group of dedicated lads, I think they're ready to step up a level. Ramor are a mess it seems and I've heard from numerous sources that players and supporters are frustrated with management structure. Crosserlough won't care too much about that and I hope and expect them to pull through.
Castlerahan v Kingscourt - Castlerahan by 1. I expect Castlerahan to pull through a tough battle in this one. I thought they were peaking too early and this could be the challenge they need to push them on further towards winning the championship they've been craving for so long. I attended the game against Ballinagh, my own club at the weekend. A good win for our lads but I wouldn't look into it too much. Kingscourt will put up a good challenge as always but I expect them to fall just short.
I'm still backing the Gaels (just!), may change after next weekend. Castlerahan to fall just short again. I think Shercock will go down with us and I expect it to be tight between Killygarry and Cootehill, but I expect Cootehill to stay up with Killygarry missing Conor Smith, a huge loss!
patman92 (Cavan) - Posts: 53 - 11/09/2018 16:00:27
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Replying To The Quiet Man: "You are right off course but that result effected the top of the table and Ballinagh win or lose were still in the relegation play off. Another situation Crosserlough V Kingscourt Crosserlough scored a goal at the end but the referee disallowed note the score difference so there is a major problem when it comes to getting to the 1/4 final stages this needs to be addressed big time for it's unfair on those on the borderline this included the Gaels Killyhandra Ramor Kingscourt Cootehill Lavey it puts a bad reflection on what seemed like a good set up but sadly it's not. Shame really." I repeat - a late Crosserlough goal would not have affected the table one bit - you show me how it would have altered the positions - I wish you would get your facts straight before you start
tenyearplan (Cavan) - Posts: 130 - 11/09/2018 21:08:09
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Replying To SwadMan11: "The format it is in at the minute is unfair in my opinion. To think that a team could play the bottom 4 teams in a division compared to another team who may have to play 4 of the top teams in the division, the score difference will obviously subside the other. Cootehill will feel very hard done by because Lacken must have put out a weakened side to be beating by that much. Either that, or they simply didn't care because they were already through.
I was at that Cootehill game yesterday and what a game it was. Two teams who went for it from the word go. No defensive systems in place. Martin Reilly's free kick taking was exceptional. Plenty of players from both teams impressed massively. The Cootehill midfielder had a whale of a game in the first half.
As for Castlerahan, I think it is very clear to anyone watching senior football this year that they definitely threw that game as they where in danger of getting Cavan Gaels. I don't mean any disrespect to Ballinagh but come on." To be fair it would have to be a league on a home and away basis for every team. the beauty of the championship is the "unfairness" of it. Remember it used to be a straight knockout where the 2 best teams could meet in round one. Dont worry the best team will win the end.
s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5356 - 11/09/2018 23:05:52
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I have absolutely no issues with the current format. Its an open draw right up to the Q/Finals and If you have any aspirations of winning a Championship then pull all your efforts into the first two or three matches and if you can afford to rest players for the last match, be it for injuries or for tactical purposes, then whats the problem, its all part of the excitement for players and supporters alike, some teams coming into the last match not knowing whether they will qualify or not. The Gaels for instance, knew they needed a win and for some other results to go their way, they had no control of the other results, they had to go out and do what they had to do. Killygarry needed a win to put them through, but hit the normal self-implode button, Cootehill needed a win and for results to go their way, they got their win, but sadly it wasn't to be.
I threw my hat in the ring at the beginning and said the Gaels will retain their title, some people mocked me because of the opening results, but I stuck to my guns. In my opinion, the only team capable of stopping them is Castlerahan, but to be honest, I cant see them doing so. The best hope for a decent competitive County Final is for the Gaels and Castlerhan to be kept apart til the final!
cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 441 - 12/09/2018 13:36:45
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SFC Lavey v Lacken; Lacken highly dependent on a few very strong players. They will get caught out at some stage because of this and I think it might be here. Lavey by 1. Castlerahan v Kingscourt; Castlerahan too strong. 6+ Gowna v Gaels; Gaels by 1. Lacken result not a realistic bounceback to miles ahead of the field and they're also missing a few key players but don't think Gowna are ready for a big knockout win like this just yet. Ramor v Crosserlough; Similar to Gowna, don't think Lough are ready, Ramor by 5.
IFC Bailieborough v Laragh; Laragh by 10+ Bridge v Arva; Bridge should make it tough but Arva to come through by 3-6. Belturbet v Mullahoran; Looks 50/50 but will go Belturbet by 1. Back the Over 3.5 red cards.... Cucu v Killeshandra- Cucu's by 7-10.
JFC Denn v Killinkere; Killinkere probably have the least weaknesses of any team left and are racking up the biggest scorelines. Fancy them to win by 4-6 and go on and win the c'ship. Drumlane v Mountnugent; Drumlane by 3 points on c'ship form. Don't know much about Kiernan's brother or the other lad on the plane from London with Givney if its true but Givney would surely be a big help if played at full forward and that would throw my prediction up in the air completely.
Is it even allowed that he can transfer if he played in the London c'ship with Fulham Irish? It doesn't affect me or my club but I would have thought not. It seems a bit unfair that he can play in two c'ships. If it was the more fun day stuff that seems to go on in Oz & Dubai etc. I wouldn't mind but I think the London c'ships are taken quite seriously and are similar enough to our own.
I was at the Kingscourt Crosserlough game at the weekend too. The decision at the end did not affect the table but was up there with the most ludicrous things I have seen on a football field and was only the tip of the iceberg in a game where the players were just also rans to the refereeing sideshow that was put on.
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Replying To PatTheDandy: "SFC Lavey v Lacken; Lacken highly dependent on a few very strong players. They will get caught out at some stage because of this and I think it might be here. Lavey by 1. Castlerahan v Kingscourt; Castlerahan too strong. 6+ Gowna v Gaels; Gaels by 1. Lacken result not a realistic bounceback to miles ahead of the field and they're also missing a few key players but don't think Gowna are ready for a big knockout win like this just yet. Ramor v Crosserlough; Similar to Gowna, don't think Lough are ready, Ramor by 5.
IFC Bailieborough v Laragh; Laragh by 10+ Bridge v Arva; Bridge should make it tough but Arva to come through by 3-6. Belturbet v Mullahoran; Looks 50/50 but will go Belturbet by 1. Back the Over 3.5 red cards.... Cucu v Killeshandra- Cucu's by 7-10.
JFC Denn v Killinkere; Killinkere probably have the least weaknesses of any team left and are racking up the biggest scorelines. Fancy them to win by 4-6 and go on and win the c'ship. Drumlane v Mountnugent; Drumlane by 3 points on c'ship form. Don't know much about Kiernan's brother or the other lad on the plane from London with Givney if its true but Givney would surely be a big help if played at full forward and that would throw my prediction up in the air completely.
Is it even allowed that he can transfer if he played in the London c'ship with Fulham Irish? It doesn't affect me or my club but I would have thought not. It seems a bit unfair that he can play in two c'ships. If it was the more fun day stuff that seems to go on in Oz & Dubai etc. I wouldn't mind but I think the London c'ships are taken quite seriously and are similar enough to our own.
I was at the Kingscourt Crosserlough game at the weekend too. The decision at the end did not affect the table but was up there with the most ludicrous things I have seen on a football field and was only the tip of the iceberg in a game where the players were just also rans to the refereeing sideshow that was put on." Agree about the refereeing in the county Paddy, there are a few decent refs who get the respect they deserves but there are also an awful lot of very poor refs too, not mentioning any names but some of the decisions I've seen would cause a few raised "eyebrows"
IamADragon (Cavan) - Posts: 269 - 12/09/2018 14:27:55
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Replying To cavanblueman: "I have absolutely no issues with the current format. Its an open draw right up to the Q/Finals and If you have any aspirations of winning a Championship then pull all your efforts into the first two or three matches and if you can afford to rest players for the last match, be it for injuries or for tactical purposes, then whats the problem, its all part of the excitement for players and supporters alike, some teams coming into the last match not knowing whether they will qualify or not. The Gaels for instance, knew they needed a win and for some other results to go their way, they had no control of the other results, they had to go out and do what they had to do. Killygarry needed a win to put them through, but hit the normal self-implode button, Cootehill needed a win and for results to go their way, they got their win, but sadly it wasn't to be.
I threw my hat in the ring at the beginning and said the Gaels will retain their title, some people mocked me because of the opening results, but I stuck to my guns. In my opinion, the only team capable of stopping them is Castlerahan, but to be honest, I cant see them doing so. The best hope for a decent competitive County Final is for the Gaels and Castlerhan to be kept apart til the final!" I would be a big admirer of the Gaels but I honestly don't think they are playing well enough to win it out on current form. Now in saying that it can change very quickly with the Gaels as the can up their form quickly and have done so often in the past. Castlerahan are the usual Castlerahan when all boils down to the nitty gritty of winning a championship. Crosserlough to me might be challengers . They don't hit the big time often but when they do they know how to win.
Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 12/09/2018 14:37:50
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With 8 teams left I and the league format over I thought now might be a good time to rank each teams chances of lifting the cup
1. Castlerahan- Apart from losing their last game against Ballinagh, Castlerahan still look the form team. They have quality all over the field and strength in depth. Their biggest challenge will be overcoming the Cavan Gaels hoodoo. They had their chance to lay down a marker in the second group game when playing a Gaels team on the ropes but could only come away with a draw. They can only hope the Gaels don't build upon their only win in the group stage.
2. Cavan Gaels- Gaels will count themselves lucky to make the quarters after a slow start. However now that its straight knockout I think they will only get better. Gowna will provide them with a stern test but now that they've qualified I expect them to make the final at the very least.
3. Crosserlough- The Lough seem to be slowly creeping under the radar and have a young team full of talent. Their only slip up came against Cootehil but if they get over Ramor in the quarters I wouldn't be surprised to see them in a final.
4. Ramor- Haven't really caught light just yet but have the players capable of it. They will need a good performance against Crosserlough but if they start firing could ruffle a few feathers.
5. Lacken- Lacken have had a mixed start but will be happy to be at this stage in a quarter against Lavey. They are very dependant on a few key men but when they play at full strength are as good as anyone in the competition. If they have a full strength team out against Lavey I expect them to come through and they won't be afraid of anyone in a semi.
6. Gowna- A good team with some young guns coming through nicely. Probably a bit early to be contenders and the fact they have the Gaels in quarters but I don't expect to go out without a fight.
7. Kingscourt- Haven't seen enough to think that they might challenge for the championship and their wins came against two Div. 2 teams. I expect Castlerahan to dismiss of them in the quarters.
8. Lavey- A good team with but I don't see them having the strength in depth to win a championship. They may get over Lacken at the weekend depending on the fitness of Lacken's top players but I don't see them getting any further
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Lavey v Lacken; If lacken get there main men back its hard to see anything but a lacken win but if Shane Tierney and Gerry Smith can get a go at the game i dunno if lacken have the players to stop them.
Castlerahan v Kingscourt; Castlerahan easy!!
Gowna v Gaels; Couldnt get job done against a depleted ramor team with an extra man, dont be surprised to see gaels win by 8.
Ramor v Crosserlough; Ramor have been very unlucky this championship with the disallowed point vs lacken and then ripped apart with injuries/ j1s but showed good heart to draw with gowna and have a man down from 2nd minute so i do really think they could have a huge say, ramor by 4.
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Replying To PatTheDandy: "SFC Lavey v Lacken; Lacken highly dependent on a few very strong players. They will get caught out at some stage because of this and I think it might be here. Lavey by 1. Castlerahan v Kingscourt; Castlerahan too strong. 6+ Gowna v Gaels; Gaels by 1. Lacken result not a realistic bounceback to miles ahead of the field and they're also missing a few key players but don't think Gowna are ready for a big knockout win like this just yet. Ramor v Crosserlough; Similar to Gowna, don't think Lough are ready, Ramor by 5.
IFC Bailieborough v Laragh; Laragh by 10+ Bridge v Arva; Bridge should make it tough but Arva to come through by 3-6. Belturbet v Mullahoran; Looks 50/50 but will go Belturbet by 1. Back the Over 3.5 red cards.... Cucu v Killeshandra- Cucu's by 7-10.
JFC Denn v Killinkere; Killinkere probably have the least weaknesses of any team left and are racking up the biggest scorelines. Fancy them to win by 4-6 and go on and win the c'ship. Drumlane v Mountnugent; Drumlane by 3 points on c'ship form. Don't know much about Kiernan's brother or the other lad on the plane from London with Givney if its true but Givney would surely be a big help if played at full forward and that would throw my prediction up in the air completely.
Is it even allowed that he can transfer if he played in the London c'ship with Fulham Irish? It doesn't affect me or my club but I would have thought not. It seems a bit unfair that he can play in two c'ships. If it was the more fun day stuff that seems to go on in Oz & Dubai etc. I wouldn't mind but I think the London c'ships are taken quite seriously and are similar enough to our own.
I was at the Kingscourt Crosserlough game at the weekend too. The decision at the end did not affect the table but was up there with the most ludicrous things I have seen on a football field and was only the tip of the iceberg in a game where the players were just also rans to the refereeing sideshow that was put on." Givney played last week with Fulham Irish, how could he play this week with mountnugent ?
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Replying To westcavankid: "With 8 teams left I and the league format over I thought now might be a good time to rank each teams chances of lifting the cup
1. Castlerahan- Apart from losing their last game against Ballinagh, Castlerahan still look the form team. They have quality all over the field and strength in depth. Their biggest challenge will be overcoming the Cavan Gaels hoodoo. They had their chance to lay down a marker in the second group game when playing a Gaels team on the ropes but could only come away with a draw. They can only hope the Gaels don't build upon their only win in the group stage.
2. Cavan Gaels- Gaels will count themselves lucky to make the quarters after a slow start. However now that its straight knockout I think they will only get better. Gowna will provide them with a stern test but now that they've qualified I expect them to make the final at the very least.
3. Crosserlough- The Lough seem to be slowly creeping under the radar and have a young team full of talent. Their only slip up came against Cootehil but if they get over Ramor in the quarters I wouldn't be surprised to see them in a final.
4. Ramor- Haven't really caught light just yet but have the players capable of it. They will need a good performance against Crosserlough but if they start firing could ruffle a few feathers.
5. Lacken- Lacken have had a mixed start but will be happy to be at this stage in a quarter against Lavey. They are very dependant on a few key men but when they play at full strength are as good as anyone in the competition. If they have a full strength team out against Lavey I expect them to come through and they won't be afraid of anyone in a semi.
6. Gowna- A good team with some young guns coming through nicely. Probably a bit early to be contenders and the fact they have the Gaels in quarters but I don't expect to go out without a fight.
7. Kingscourt- Haven't seen enough to think that they might challenge for the championship and their wins came against two Div. 2 teams. I expect Castlerahan to dismiss of them in the quarters.
8. Lavey- A good team with but I don't see them having the strength in depth to win a championship. They may get over Lacken at the weekend depending on the fitness of Lacken's top players but I don't see them getting any further" I still think the Gaels are the team to beat, they have the best 15 and strongest bench. Last Sunday in a must win game they could afford to drop Martin Dunne and have Jelly injured in the warmup (2 of their most key forwards from last year) and still win by 24 points.
Castlerahan probably will be there or thereabouts again, I'm not sure I agree with your strength in depth claim though. They also seem to be having major difficulties in the full back line and with their goalkeeping situation.
Ramor got James Mcenroe back which should help tighten up a leaky defence, a lot depends on Ado Cole tho, is he fit? He came off injured in the last 2 games anyway, he's their key man.
Crosserlough look to be moving well, a lot of fast direct players, I feel tho that it's too early for them this season, their time will come though.
Gowna like crosserlough have a lot of fantastic young players and they will be a force but maybe not this season.
Lacken need to have all their key men fit and firing if they are to be contenders, if they have then they could well win it out or make a final at least.
Lavey have some nice footballers but I don't get the feeling that there's a senior championship in them.
Kingscourt, they still have some terrific footballers and I expect they'll have a plan for Castlerahan and may even beat them, but I feel that we may have already seen the best out of this bunch and another senior title may be out of reach.
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